We make our own smart pots out of black weed cloth that we purchase by the role online, which is permeable to water and air.
That's a great idea!
I don't have time for that at the moment, but I need to get the fabric pots on order, because shipping can take a while unless you want to pay zillions.
I have designs for multiple sizes, but we chose 15 gal because it was a comfortable max. size for 2 people to lift into the wheelbarrow when moving from veg to flower house. As of today, I'm starting to think that 10 gal may be sufficient. But I'm not going to change just yet... I need to do some experiments with moving plants to flower sooner.
Ahh, ok. Perfect.
I ordered the 15Gs.
I was thinking 15s, but was wondering if I should go 20.
But if you are thinking of dropping to 10, I will start with 15s (when we get there, haha).
That's an interesting concept... growing in a greenhouse but using photosynthetic lighting. Are they trying to maximize light, or control flowering? If the latter, then yes, night interruption would be much better.
Yeah, I am not really sure what they are doing.
But it did not sound real healthy to run lights 24/7 without a rest, so I kind of lost interest in going to see their operation.
I might want to see it, if I want to plant in ground. But I think mostly I will be in a greenhouse, in containers, because it is so much easier to control the moisture, at least for a small operation.
I heard that they had some under greenhouses, and some that just grows wild, out in the open (fenced, but open air).
But if they don't let the plants rest, then I am not so interested to go there.
The dreaded "S" word (ha ha)... I use 2" square nursery pots and allow plants to grow for about 5 days (~3" tall), then up pot to 1 gal, burying the stem so about 1.5" is showing above the soil.
Ahh, ok. I only got started on them because I am trying to imitate Emilya's watering techniques as best I can.
She uses Solo cups, so I broke down and got some.
I plan to wear them completely all the way out, if that helps. I hope to use them for many years to come. It seems like less plastic than to buy hard pots of the same size.
I looked online and I can get hard pots of the same size that should last a lifetime, but it will be like $160 to get them here. So it seems like there is actually less "carbon footprint" (to use a term) with the Solo cups than if I buy hard plastic pots. I do try to treat them gingerly, so they will last.
It's a good question... how long to keep plants in veg. 6 months is definitely doable. The question is, what's the best duration of veg for a given strain, in terms of best outcome for flower production. Pot size is also a key factor.
Those sound like good questions.
I did grow Northern Light one time, and that was a small, compact little plant!
I never did an autopsy on the root ball on that one, to see if it could have lived in a smaller pot. Next time I grow Northern Light I will have to do an autopsy on the rootball.
Anyway, I think I get what you are saying.
I thought if I did sativa I would probably want a really big pot, depending on the rootball, but I don't know how well sativa does in a greenhouse. How tall did you say your greenhouse was?
Yes, I do favor indica dominant plants. I tend to like vaping indica over sativa.
Sí.
I do like sativa sometimes, but somehow indicas seem a lot more potent.
I also like blending buds, when grinding, to produce mixtures of THC and CBD, and sativa does have a nice energizing effect when combined with CBD. This is what I'm referring to when I say THC "turns up the volume" on the CBD.
Sí!
I can't wait to get back to growing photoperiods! If I remember correctly, Harlequin is an all-CBD sativa that is my all-time favorite strain (and Harle-Sour Tsunami is good also).
I don't know if everyone receives it the same way, but to me, Harlequin is a very clear-headed CBD strain. Probably my best strain for clear-headed, on-your-feet kind of work.
Regarding pot size as relates to duration of vegging... that's a good question. I think of it this way... a given photo strain will have its optimum lifecycle duration – i.e. optimum time in veg as well as in flower. Pot size needs to support the plant through this, and if you have insufficient pot size, then the outcome will be the pot will be "maxed out" too soon – i.e. too much root growth for the pot and insufficient nutrients, resulting at least in a small plant, and at worst, in various other problems.
Sí.
As you can imagine, there are various factors affecting all this.
Sí.
Let's look at a best-case, hypothetical scenario first. Let's say the plant is a slow-growing indica. It will be a short plant when it reaches its max height, and it will do just fine in a 6 gal black plastic nursery pot. Let's say vegging time is 2 months, and flowering time is also 2 months. The plant is grown in a well-fertilized, balanced organic living soil. The plant is also fed during watering, every other watering, with a high-N liquid fert w/ other nutrients. During flowering, the weather is mild, not hot. The plant should grow very well and produce a nice yield.
Sí.
Now for a hypothetical worst-case... Let's say the plant is a tall-growing hybrid variety (50/50 indica/sativa). This plant will easily reach 8 ft tall or more, but height depends on the container size and other factors. The plant is grown in an 10 gal black plastic nursery pot. Let's say vegging time is 4 months, and flower time 2 months. The plant is grown in a well-fertilized commercial soil mixture, but without emphasis on soil biology.
Sorry, I was with you in agreement right up until that last part, and then you lost me.
What it means, "without emphasis on soil biology"?
No supplemental nutrients are added during watering.
I really liked the idea of Subcool supersoil, because it makes watering a snap!
I *just harvested the last of the non-Subcool plants, but I must confess that I got in the habit of feeding then the existing liquid 'nutes, because I am still trying to build a stash. (Still running behind.)
I am thinking that the extra nutes will help the little girls grow faster.
That could be completely wrong, but I am trying to them get going.
Once I get to my final destination, I hope it will be much more of a set-and-forget or else a Jadam or KNF situation.
Does any of that relate or pertain?
Or did I miss it entirely, haha?
By the middle of flowering, the weather is hot, and this plant has maxed out its pot – the pot is root bound and needs to be watered almost every day. Soil nutrients have been depleted, and all the watering is leaching out minerals from the soil. The soil becomes too acidic. The plant starts to show signs of serious nutrient deficiency – leaves start to yellow and die. Drooping leaves encourage the grower to water more, but this only makes things worse. The grower consults the gang at the 420 magazine forum, and thankfully, is just barely able to pull off a harvest.
Ahhh.... sí....
Because I have the two greenhouses, and need to control flowering, I need the portability.
Ahhh, ok! That makes sense!
And you go that way because all you need to do is cut the night lights?
So you transport the 15 from the night-light-veg house to the non-night-light flowering house?
And that way, you have a constant harvest???
Wow, fresh weed is always the nicest! I love vaping all of the early aromas and flavors off of fresh buds! It makes for a longer session, but for me it is so much nicer!
How could I do it with regular auto CBD seeds?
Sometimes you buy 5 seeds, and sometimes 10 or even 12.
I guess with 5, they are assuming that at least 1 or 2 or even 3 will be a female, and you can select for the strongest male.
However, they all go into flower around a certain age.
So maybe start the 12 seeds, say 6 are females, and keep the strongest male, that is a crop of 7? And then separate the male to a male flowering house?
Or would you want separate small rooms for each male that flowers, so you can be sure to isolate the pollens, without them mixing?
And put up bee screens on both the male and female houses?
It kind of seems like with auto regular CBD plants, I will need to end up running "batches" in gender-segregated housing???
I am considering growing some trees in our big greenhouse, once I do the repair/renovation work.
Great!
What is your ceiling height on that one?
And what needs to be renovated/repaired?
In that case, I will use our 40 gal smart pots, and will probably grow clones of both the Gelato and Blue Dream genetics that I'm growing now.
Oh, wow. 40 gallons....
Those plants will be able to grow very tall, and top out around 9.5 ft (to fit the space). I haven't decided yet if I'll use night interruption lighting for that grow – it would be interesting not to use it, and let the plants just flower as soon as they're ready.
Ahhh.... yeah, now I see what you are saying.
Yes, kind of, if you were hypothetically to start them in the spring, how big would they get by fall?
And then that is kind of their "ideal expected growth characteristic" in a normal plush growing season?
And based on that, you could tell what size pot you need?
Makes sense.
(Hmmm.... now I wonder if I should get some 40 gallon pots, too!)