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but you have to clone under 24/0 - must be a "fast" strain - not quite auto. Mine bloomed under 20/4 as soon as I took the cut, and only reverted after a month-long stall.
Very interesting, I have a male I’ve cloned several times now and it’s just like this; requiring 24/0 to keep it from flowering. I veg it with a good LED at 16/8 and a little T5 florescent at 24/0 to keep it from flowering. As it’s my first so I assumed this is just what male clones do. Of two offspring so far one matures in 5 weeks the other 8 so maybe this male is just a “fast” strain too...
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Very interesting, I have a male I’ve cloned several times now and it’s just like this; requiring 24/0 to keep it from flowering. I veg it with a good LED at 16/8 and a little T5 florescent at 24/0 to keep it from flowering. As it’s my first so I assumed this is just what male clones do. Of two offspring so far one matures in 5 weeks the other 8 so maybe this male is just a “fast” strain too...
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I've cloned a few males and never had that problem.

5 week finisher sounds like it's got some ruderelis in it.
 
Very interesting discussion, my male clone will drop a bit of pollen right after it grows roots at 24/0 but goes right to veg after that and is stable at 16/8 after a week or two. But it will never stop flowering and fail to root if I clone at less than 24/0. I’m not sure why I keep cloning it except it was supposed to be some “super elite genetics” but it was also supposed to be selfed so this male shouldn’t have been possible.

I’ve only grown three of it’s offspring so far (culled one was male) but both females did have some non-viable male parts which I thought were environmental. Someone else grew 22 of my f2 crosses and got 21 males. :eek: His female does look amazing in the pics I’ve seen thoigh so he’s happy. I just planted a couple reg seeds and will try to clone any males just to have fun and educate myself.

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Update time! :theband:

Another week has passed without disaster - only 5 more to go! Ima need a bigger clown car if I keep growing these big ones. I pulled 'em out today and they take up like 100 square feet if you give them some room. :oops: Five of them are almost 4 feet each, with a good 3 feet of thick bushy canopy. I gotta get a couple more fans in there.

Some of them have crispy upper foliage, but I'm blaming that on the QBs. A 4 foot plant only gives me 18 inches of clearance and that runs 1200+ umols - too much without CO2. But if I turn them down, the lower growth will suffer, so ... whatevas. :)

I think they'll all get Cats next. I've been watering every 3 days or so to keep the pots moist - only missed the mark once this run - usually one wilts before I get around to watering.

Carnival1 - 42 days






Carnival2 - 42 days

(I mislabeled the pics - these are all Carn2)






BlueDream - 37 days





BubbaHash - 33 days






RaspberryDiesel - 15 days

(Crap, these are all mislabeled too :confused:)





The small ones are doing great, even if a couple of 'em aren't exactly small. :D DurBush still looks fabulous! I'm sold on doing sativas this way. They won't yield as well, but I don't miss the aggravation of trying to train 'em. And with the QBs I'm getting 3 feet of penetration. A guy could do a nice SOG with single cola sativas - plenty of room above and below. :slide:

DurBush - 42 days

I don't see a 9 week maturity - maybe ... :hmmmm:







UBH (UtopiaHaze x BuddhaHaze) x GoldenTiger





UtopiaHaze x BuddhaHaze - 42 days





DevilsCarnival6 - 20 days

You have to look closely, but all the buds have purple centers. :love:






KingGelato - 20 days

I didn't let this one veg long enough this time either. No great loss - I don' love the smoke.





BubbaHash - 7 days

And I had an extra Bubba Hash clone so I popped that into bloom. She was a bit ragged but she's recovering fast.




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:adore:Outstanding Gray, stellar, kudos on all strains and photos. Sue said you were looking for HB growers interested in making seeds.I fit :ciao: It's been working out fairly well.:thumb:How are you storing your seeds?
I dusted my first Carnival with DDA pollen yesterday hoping the pollen is still viable. Your Carnivals and everyone's feedback has me excited to try it out and I'd like to try DevilsCarnival.:bongrip::Namaste:
 
:adore:Outstanding Gray, stellar, kudos on all strains and photos. Sue said you were looking for HB growers interested in making seeds.I fit :ciao: It's been working out fairly well.:thumb:How are you storing your seeds?
I dusted my first Carnival with DDA pollen yesterday hoping the pollen is still viable. Your Carnivals and everyone's feedback has me excited to try it out and I'd like to try DevilsCarnival.:bongrip::Namaste:

Great news! :thumb:

I have what I think is a pheno worth preserving, but only through its selfed seeds. I lost the mother - wouldn't reveg. :( But I have 14 seeds. :) This pheno (DC2) doesn't lack much of the Carnival strength and it's really pretty to look at. And these seeds are purple F3s, from Nis & Canna's original work. I took yet another look at that journal and it sure looks like the first cross was a purple photo, not a green one. Then they selfed that for F2s. I've been running the F2s and caught this magenta/purple photo, which selfed one single bud in the lowest growth. With that background, they all have to be purple from here on.


In fact, it was the plant that just won August NOTM.


I think it would be very cool to back cross the purple F3 to a new Carnival. So, yeah! :yahoo:It sounds like you're headed that direction anyway. I can get you a leg up. You could even run this genetic line against the ones you'll be running.

I just have the seeds in a tiny ziplock, but they're only a couple months old - fresh as can be.
 
I have been wanting to run the 5 Devils Carnival seeds I have and seeing what's available in there. When I do that Gray, I will definitely be leaning on your experience with them. I intend to work them a bit but not going to do it until we get a bigger grow space (which is in the works).
 
:thumb:I see it as an old Brass heater from the 40's-50's when things were made different.when things were built to last -not planned obsolescence.:Namaste:

It's a fine example of early 20th Century appliances. :) The housing is cast bronze with patterns in the reflector and base, like a Tiffany lamp, and the interior is thick copper. So simple - just a socket with a screw-in heat coil. We've never used it of course, and it moves around the room. It used to be on the floor somewhere. It's sitting on the LC Smith Typewriter box now. :bongrip:
 
You always have so many different plants, man! And you manage to bring them all home :thumb:
 
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