Graytail's 3rd: 4x4, HiBrix, Latest LED Tech, Lots Of Light!

[Graytail]

I forgot to post a pic of the pattern the Crees throw on the walls ...

Cool, huh?

This panel is growing on me fast.



[Edit] *snork* ... "growing on me" ...


[Edit] High, Dale!

 

[SweetSue]

 

[Duggan]

I got some pics of DestroyerCut2 under just the Cree whites. I cooked 'er a bit as the temps warmed up - got surprised - and she's pretty yoogly so I'm not going to show a full plant pic.

But ahem, apparently she's growing some extra trichs from all the stress. And only about 5% amber.

[Edit] I like oxymorons, too ... "pretty ugly"?

Wow Gray! Just fabulous Can you describe the flavour for us ? Cheers!

 

[SweetSue]

Just curious Greytail, when you grow a strain you've explored before do you find individual plants express taste and perfume in different ways?

 

[Duggan]

 

[DrZiggy]

Tony the Tiger says Sugar Frosted Flakes are Grrrrrrrrrrrreat!!

 

[Graytail]

Wow Gray! Just fabulous Can you describe the flavour for us ? Cheers!

Just curious Greytail, when you grow a strain you've explored before do you find individual plants express taste and perfume in different ways?

I've gone through several successive clones with several strains and what I've noticed is that terpenes are strongly influenced by environment, In my case, soil conditions primarily. This latest Destroyer, for instance, has more of a cherry aroma to the blueberry. The winner was in salty soil and was a sweeter, lighter and stronger blueberry. I remember Doc saying that sulfur is particularly influential near the finish. The first clone from it was noticeably less aromatic. Somewhere I have a list of all the pertinent terpenes in cannabis.

I'm toying with the idea of running a bunch of Carnivals since it's still my favorite smoke and it's so easy to grow. Maybe I'll play with additives and see how it affects the final terpene profile.

In my experience, the better the soil the more refined the terpenes. Good soil doesn't usually produce reeky plants in my garden, though. It's like clearing the film off glass or restoring an old fresco. You notice a lot more delicate detail, some of it interesting, some of it not. Terpenes are less "blurred" in healthy living soil.

But otherwise, my clones haven't varied much through several generations. Each one stays true to phenotype.


That reminds me - as an aside for the chefs in the crowd: I recently discovered that you can bury heat in honey and it will come out slowly and deliciously as the honey melts away in your mouth. Yummy!

 

[SweetSue]

Definitely going to try the honey thing tomorrow. I can see that. Why must it take 61 years?

"Less blurred". That's an interesting take on it. Healthy soil supports a thriving micro community that should be able to provide anything the plant requests, so that makes perfect sense.

Our last studio before retirement was a refurbished floor of offices, circa 1899, that the landlords remodeled for us into a living/studio space above a retail first floor. It was an old Victorian with walnut paneling coming up the long staircase to the second floor and leather walls - leather walls! - in the great 17x24 ft room in the front that served as our waiting area. That room also had an antique wall safe that stood about 5 1/2' high with double doors. The space was originally built for a bail bondsman. Someone had painted over that safe with brown high-gloss. The most hideous color. Ugh!

Within a week of moving in I began spending evenings slowly peeling the gloss paint off the surface to reveal the most delightful pastoral scene with a tiny fisherman along the banks of a stream. We liked to think it was Dale's dad watching over us. The safe, with this fabulous painting and delicate script and block gold lettering was a thing of exquisite beauty. I was so proud to have allowed it to breathe and bring joy again.

After we moved from there to here they sold the building to a consortium who promptly painted every wall in the suite contractor's white semi gloss, historically significant leather walls (the last of their kind in the county), safe and all. Sad, but the memories we had there! You can't paint over them. Made me even prouder to have kept the place so well while it was ours. It also made me wish I'd taken pictures. I always think of it too late.

Got lost in a ramble there Greytail. Blame it on the girls. Lonely here too.

 

[Graytail]

I'm with you, Sweetsue. I have a reverence for things that have abided intact for a very long time. A guy once told me why old guitars are worth so much. It's not because they're so old - it's because they're so old and they've never warped or changed - they're the grand survivors, extremely unlikely to fail you. Even as a young man I liked old things, but as an old man now I respect the span they represent. It becomes harder as the time stretches out, to keep perspective. Old things "represent", and they feel like they hold time within themselves.

Which reminds me of an example of the span that we can hold in our own experience. My mother grew up at her grandmother's side as a kitchen helper for her older sisters, et al. This grandmother was born shortly after the War Between the States her father and grandfather both having fought and been captured. She told my mother what it was like to grow up in that post-war period and my mother told me, and I could tell youngsters. One man knows third-hand what it was like to live 150 years ago.

 

[Conradino23]

The other ones live in memory forever becoming spiritual link with the past. I definitely dig it! Right on, man

 

[DrZiggy]

Graytail, do you finish your flowers off with a cocktail of Epsom Salt as Conradino suggested. I am trying it, started today with 6-7 days left to harvest and will see if anything improves.
Also, do landraces tend to be salt lovers or dont tend to be?

 

[Duggan]

Graytail, do you finish your flowers off with a cocktail of Epsom Salt as Conradino suggested. I am trying it, started today with 6-7 days left to harvest and will see if anything improves.
Also, do landraces tend to be salt lovers or dont tend to be?

Hey Zig...if i may bud....Landrace strains have never needed the extra salts ...and don't need them now.Strains that have been hybridized thru mixing and matching with Hydro bred strains ,or Frankenstrains like Doc says have been bred to thrive on them so to speak. This Mazar i've got going ,is not 100% landrace,but it's close. That's why it has grown like mad without any extra salts whats so ever. Totally diff. than the MK Ultra ,which was more of a Frankenstrain. Cheers bud .

 

[DrZiggy]

I ask because Conradinos suggestion of Mg. I am going to try it (adding epsom and maybe Salty from Doc)on several plants in last 2-3 weeks of flowering with the ACE girls.

 

[Duggan]

I ask because Conradinos suggestion of Mg. I am going to try it (adding epsom and maybe Salty from Doc)on several plants in last 2-3 weeks of flowering with the ACE girls.

I gotcha!

 

[DrZiggy]

Lets say many strains although not known salt lovers dont show deficiencies so close to harvest, but might benefit if extra Mg, Ca, PO4, and NH4-, is added..

When I get a min i am going to look up the terpenes that are present in cannabis, and find their chemical formulas, and possible pathway of plant production...and see if a particular mineral is used in that pathway. Imagine customizing terpene profiles by tweaking the anions and cations even more?

 

[Duggan]

Lets say many strains although not known salt lovers dont show deficiencies so close to harvest, but might benefit if extra Mg, Ca, PO4, and NH4-, is added..

When I get a min i am going to look up the terpenes that are present in cannabis, and find their chemical formulas, and possible pathway of plant production...and see if a particular mineral is used in that pathway. Imagine customizing terpene profiles by tweaking the anions and cations even more?

Great idea Ziggs.....i'm very interested in your findings.My Mazar's still have four weeks to go ,so i really want to make sure they get to be all they can with no limiting factors in the way. I too am giving them a regular small bit of epsoms for these last four weeks hoping to max out the resin and flavour! Cheers bud....time for a Stella....taking the little one skating in a little bit....good times!

 

[Icemud]

Hey Graytail!!! weeowww! what a plethora of LED goodies you have! very nice! just found your new journal, hope you don't mind if I sub along

 

[SweetSue]

Lets say many strains although not known salt lovers dont show deficiencies so close to harvest, but might benefit if extra Mg, Ca, PO4, and NH4-, is added..

When I get a min i am going to look up the terpenes that are present in cannabis, and find their chemical formulas, and possible pathway of plant production...and see if a particular mineral is used in that pathway. Imagine customizing terpene profiles by tweaking the anions and cations even more?

Is it this site that turns you guys all into mad scientists or were you all born with that curiosity and you were attracted to each other here?

OK, I was just thinking this very thing this morning and it's lingered all day. I just stumbled onto a string of your questions about it DrZiggy. I'll watch closely while you experiment and continue my study. Let me jump over to your journal.

 

[DrZiggy]

Is it this site that turns you guys all into mad scientists or were you all born with that curiosity and you were attracted to each other here?

OK, I was just thinking this very thing this morning and it's lingered all day. I just stumbled onto a string of your questions about it DrZiggy. I'll watch closely while you experiment and continue my study. Let me jump over to your journal.

Sweetsue, lol.. That was my CB radio handle.. Mad Scientist ...38 yrs ago? Boy..time flies
I get some ideas after smoking ..and before but theyre not as creative

 

[Duggan]

Is it this site that turns you guys all into mad scientists or were you all born with that curiosity and you were attracted to each other here?

OK, I was just thinking this very thing this morning and it's lingered all day. I just stumbled onto a string of your questions about it DrZiggy. I'll watch closely while you experiment and continue my study. Let me jump over to your journal.

LMAO Sweetsue...i bet it really seems like that sometime eh? My G.F. says the same sort of stuff about my obsession with perfection,when it comes to my produce. It's just that we can't settle for good or great ,when we all know the possibilities.When i look at pics of Gray's Destroyer buds ,close up....they are just stupid with resin....that's my end goal.To have all our plants like that....all the time. Ya ...OK Duggs. !.Have a great afternoon gang!