Grandpa's Second Try - Come Join Us!

Hey grandma, I am a new grower also! When I found your journal I had no idea what I was in for. I have spent the last 3 days catching up and found myself captivated, so much so in fact that I have poured over every word and it certainly has been a roller coaster ride! I found myself praying for you when you did you first transplant, I knew the deed had already been done, but geez what a harrowing moment. I couldnt have imagined doing my first transplant, not so long ago, without being able to see, I was very nervous but you did great.

I have been astounded by the generosity of this community during your grow and through all of the other journals I have read. It warms my heart to think how blessed you must feel to have met such a wonderful group. I have no doubt in my mind that if I start having trouble with my grows that help would not be too far away.

My disclaimer, I am a new grower but have a fair bit of vegetable gardening experience, please take my advise with a grain of salt. Like I said I have poured over your journal from start to finish over the course of 3 day, I feel like that gives me a unique perspective because I have been able to condense what has been said into my short term memory for analysis. In my opinion, alot of your problems are due to an arid climate. When plants are young they rely on RH for water intake, they are literally drinking water from the air through their leaves. Several people have suggested that you mist your plants, you can do this until several weeks into flowering. I have been battling low humidity as well as I live in a colder climate and my furnace is running all the time. My RH is into the teens, so I mist twice a day, some days when I have too much time on my hands I do it more but some days I forget completely. I think of it as taking a load off the roots and putting the leaves to work, in 2 months of doing this I have not had any burning. Just make sure to avoid getting your lights and other electronic things wet.

Another byproduct of living in an arid climate that I have noticed you having is watering issues. The top of your soil is drying faster than the bottom. Although this is whats supposed to happen it seems as if the top of your soil is drying too fast. I would suggest an inert mulch like clay pellets or rocks, but stay away from mulch you would use in your garden or anything else organic, you don't need additional nutes leaching into your soil that already has everything your plant needs. Mulch will help your soil retain its moisture by preventing evaporation.

Other than that, it looks like everyone has gotten you dialed in, when your new growth looks supple and green there isnt a problem that cant be overcome. God bless.
Greetings Dom. Welcome to you and thanks for reading this journal. I know that was quite a daunting task... But... Grandma? LMAO!
Your eyes must have been crossed... .
You're correct in your observation that this has been a roller coaster ride, that's for sure. I had truly forgotten about misting her. I'll start doing that again today and see what happens. :thumb:
This community is nothing less than a blessing and truly awesome! People are truly family to me. You will not have to go far at all to get any help you may need.
I really like the way you described about the leaves drinking the water themselves, and the giving the roots a breaka great observation. Excellent! If I have a these things explain as well as the actual steps to doing it helps me to understand not only how to do it, but the reasons why. That gives me a picture I can put into my head and pass on to my hands.

*ANNOUNCEMENT!*

I want to thank Dom for the offer of the clay pellets to place on top of the soil to help hold moisture in. Not only is the a new member, he has already started in with what this community does. I hope and pray that I can get to the point I can be more helpful to others, and have extra things to send should somebody need it. Thank you again, and may God bless, Dom! :namaste:
 
WOOPS typo for sure. I am sure you got quite a laugh when your reader, well read.

I think I read that you are trying to quit smoking. I am a medical professional, and I smoked for 20+ years and quit by starting vaping then weaned myself down to the lowest amount of nicotine ejuice available. If you need any support in that department as well let me know.
 
Heres more info straight from their site:

Our system is very simple and easy as long as your following our directions. The following are the main issues we run into with growers:


Overwatering or watering to run off: Do not water to run off at any point and time, lightly water your plant cup by cup until you can feel or see the media is decently moist. There is no reason to soak or over water your soil as the media will always wick up the moisture when properly watered. YOU WILL water less often with our system, generally growers water once every 5-7 days when using Kind Soil. That watering schedule may shrink to once every 3-5 days once the plant becomes larger and established. Please understand there is no set amount or time we can give you for watering: Day temps, night temps, base media choice, humidity, grow pot style, lighting, air movement, all these and more will come into play with how long your moisture stays in the grow pots. Make sure your allowing the entire pot to properly dry before each watering not just the top few inches but all the way down to the base where the Kind Soil sits. A good trick to getting the hang of proper watering is weighing the grow pots on a digital kitchen scale when you first make them up. Mark that "dry" weight on the pot or keep track of it somewhere so you know how much each pot weighs when they are in a "dry"state. That way when you go down to re-water the plants you can place the pots back on the digital scale and see how close they are to the original dry weight. Once your weight is nearing the original dry weight you can re-water. Doing that a few times will start giving you an idea of how fast and often the plants/pots are using/shedding water.


Incorrect water PH: This is so vital, you must have a quality WATER PH meter and you must be monitoring your water PH all the time. THE OPTIMAL WAY TO RUN OUR SOIL is with a water source that has a natural PH of 7.0 down to 6.3. If your water has a PH between 6.3-7.0 do not adjust the PH, just simply water your plant. If your PH is out of that range you must ph adjust your water. You cannot use liquid PH up and down products, you must use citric acid crystals or Potassium bicarbonate Earth Juice Naturals makes a very good PH up and down that we recommend. If you have to PH adjust just get the water in the 6.5-7.0 range you do not have to be exact with it as long as your not going above or below the 6.5-7.0 range. We also do not recommend RO water carbon filtered water is all thats needed RO water is a waste all around and really isn't needed. If you do not have a quality water source, distilled or filtered bottle water will work as well. AGAIN make certain the PH is in the proper range.


Adding ANYTHING other than water: This happens a lot, growers get impatient and that feel they can "BOOST" the grow or simply don't trust in our system. Our system works exactly as we state Adding anything to your water or grow pots will just slow and hinder your growth. It can cause low production rates, slow growth, PH swings or even just cause the plant to lock out and die from overfeeding. Our system is designed to be a water only system from veg to harvest, DO NOT ADD ANYTHING other than carbon filtered water (PH adjusted if needed) to your grow. Patience is key, your plant will grow vigorously and produce proper flowers as long as you allow the soil to work for you.


Cold soil: Most growers never monitor night temps the worry is more with keeping the room cool however, when your growing with our soil you should be keeping your room at 65 degrees minimum through the night. Your micro life slows when temps drop and it takes a lot of time and energy to "re-heat" the soil in the morning and throughout the day. Keeping the night temps up allows the soil to work harder for your plants. It also helps with drying the media out properly between waterings.


When our system is setup as designed it gives the plant a "clean water zone", which is the base media area of your grow container. This area allows the roots to get clean water every time you moisten the media, should the plant choose to uptake just water it can do so without having to uptake nutrients/food along with it. The Kind Soil portion of the grow pot is where your rooting system sits and feeds as your plant chooses to. The plants are never up-taking or fed nutrients they do not require/will not use. Your plant will always have the nutrients it needs and the ability to drink fresh clean water as it requires, eliminating chemical burns or build up issues.

We recommend Root Trapper II grow pots for the absolute best grow results. The Root Trapper II pots not only allow the soil to properly breath they aid in leeching less humidity than fabric pots, they give added insulation to your root zone and they do not leak all over when you water like basic fabric pots do.

There's no extra nutrients, additives or extra boosters you will need with our system! Everything your medical grow will need from vegetative start to harvest day is in Kind Soil.

Our only obligation is to you the grower! We want provide the best & simplest product your money can buy, all without ever compromising your flowers quality and production.

Our system brings out flavors, smells and potency you never knew your plant had!
 
My girls seem to like being misted. I am constantly fighting too low of humidity here in the winter so that is what helps me keep it up. Almost everytime I look in on them, I give them a little misting. I do use water with nutrients in it. I think I remember that you aren't having to use nutrients, but I would make sure to PH the water. I don't know if it is necessary or not, but I feel like if you have to ph it to water with, you should PH to mist with considering its just another form of watering. :thumb:
 
Report time...

Temp = 76°
rH = the meter says 29%, but I don't believe it.
Jane got about 32 oz of water on her soil today. She also got a couple of misting yesterday. I will probably missed her once or twice today. After another day or two, I'll post some photos so you guys can visually see if the misting is helping out any. Otherwise, nothing much to report today. Hope everyone has a great Sunday, and may God bless. I am crawling back under the warm blankets, and trying to get rid of this bronchitis. :folded-hands:
 
G-ma lol just kidding grandpa, try taking the battery out of the meter then blowing into the air intake holes sometimes the sensor dust on it. My RH meter was having issues last week and this seemed to help.
 
Sounds good Grandpa, she will outgrow this stage. Just keep her watered.

Also, I dropped a Shark Shock seed last week and she has sprouted. So I'm gonna grow the same strain right beside you.

Eventually I'm hoping to reverse the sex of this plant, get pollen, then cross with my Kush. 24%THC 5% CBD is my goal.

No matter what, we will get you to your first harvest.

Get well my friend...
 
Sounds good Grandpa, she will outgrow this stage. Just keep her watered.

Also, I dropped a Shark Shock seed last week and she has sprouted. So I'm gonna grow the same strain right beside you.

Eventually I'm hoping to reverse the sex of this plant, get pollen, then cross with my Kush. 24%THC 5% CBD is my goal.

No matter what, we will get you to your first harvest.

Get well my friend...
Breed em up sis!!! Should be some great smoke .

Sorry to hear you caught the bug too gramps. Sending healing vibes your way!
 
Breed em up sis!!! Should be some great smoke .

Sorry to hear you caught the bug too gramps. Sending healing vibes your way!

I'm learning right beside you TMD, we are breeding at the same time. Breeding Buddies!

That is why I am glued to your new journal because I'm learning from you. Like taking class with my besties.
 
I'm learning right beside you TMD, we are breeding at the same time. Breeding Buddies!

That is why I am glued to your new journal because I'm learning from you. Like taking class with my besties.
No better way to do it! :circle-of-love:
 
Report time and an idea...

Temp = 75°
rH = Unknown
Tried blowing off the probe on the humidity meter, and now it just reads Low. When Kelley recovers from her surgery, I'll have her look and see. Jane got a couple of mistings today and about 16 oz of fresh water at the top of the soil.

Kelley goes into surgery tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. to have the last part of her thyroid removed. There is a golf ball-sized goiter that has grown and is cutting off her air and making it difficult for her to swallow. That with the thyroid itis she is suffering from, makes it necessary to remove it and put her on medication to balance what the thyroid usually does. This may not balance out for up to a year, or it may just take a few weeks. So, for right now, I may not be updating as often as I should. Please accept my apologies in advance.
I have had a thought rolling around in my mind for the past couple of weeks now. It is getting stronger and stronger, but we'll have to wait 4 Kelley to be well into her recovery if it happens at all. The thought is this... What if I start an auto plant, using the soil as was described above, using the Fox Farmes and then on the bottom the soil that I am using now at full strength. The benefits would be, I would learn what the soil will actually do, I would actually see if I could finally grow an auto and it would give Jane a good extra-long veg cycle to get as large as she can while we will get a harvest as she is flipped. Thoughts? Opinions? Whatever you have to say about it, Pros and cons. positive or negative, I need feedback, please.
 
Oh my dear K, just wow! That is major surgery, but I have a good feeling on this. Once the thyroid is removed, that is the major player in her health returning to manageable. I will send my best thoughts evah.

Regarding your grow. I would fill that tent with 4 tea cups, 2 autos, 2 photos in your lightest soil, with the 3 gallon you got right now, and see which seedling looks the strongest and go with that. Including autos & photos. It's extreme, but things need to get serious in there. Like any sport, if you can't do it on your own, stack your chances. Staggering your grow is the best way to keep on a schedule.

Go for it...

Many blessings to you and your family during this tough time.
 
Hi gramps, Those are heavy times you are going true. All the best and ill send you Some love and light. May you all get super-healthy.

I am growing auto's and photos at This moment and Its perfectly doable. For me Its my first grow and it turned out to be perfect :)
 
Wishing kelley a smooth and quick surgery man! Sorry you gotta go through these tough times gramps. Growing the auto like you described is a wonderful idea. Im growing an auto alongside my other ladies in the veg tent and its working great. I wish i could show ya bud. Take care and let us know if you need any more help when its time to get the other plant going!
 
Report time and an idea...

Temp = 75°
rH = Unknown
Tried blowing off the probe on the humidity meter, and now it just reads Low. When Kelley recovers from her surgery, I'll have her look and see. Jane got a couple of mistings today and about 16 oz of fresh water at the top of the soil.

Kelley goes into surgery tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. to have the last part of her thyroid removed. There is a golf ball-sized goiter that has grown and is cutting off her air and making it difficult for her to swallow. That with the thyroid itis she is suffering from, makes it necessary to remove it and put her on medication to balance what the thyroid usually does. This may not balance out for up to a year, or it may just take a few weeks. So, for right now, I may not be updating as often as I should. Please accept my apologies in advance.
I have had a thought rolling around in my mind for the past couple of weeks now. It is getting stronger and stronger, but we'll have to wait 4 Kelley to be well into her recovery if it happens at all. The thought is this... What if I start an auto plant, using the soil as was described above, using the Fox Farmes and then on the bottom the soil that I am using now at full strength. The benefits would be, I would learn what the soil will actually do, I would actually see if I could finally grow an auto and it would give Jane a good extra-long veg cycle to get as large as she can while we will get a harvest as she is flipped. Thoughts? Opinions? Whatever you have to say about it, Pros and cons. positive or negative, I need feedback, please.

Kelley I wish her the best recovery and a Safe operation .

In my prayers grampa..
 
Report time and an idea...

Temp = 75°
rH = Unknown
Tried blowing off the probe on the humidity meter, and now it just reads Low. When Kelley recovers from her surgery, I'll have her look and see. Jane got a couple of mistings today and about 16 oz of fresh water at the top of the soil.

Kelley goes into surgery tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. to have the last part of her thyroid removed. There is a golf ball-sized goiter that has grown and is cutting off her air and making it difficult for her to swallow. That with the thyroid itis she is suffering from, makes it necessary to remove it and put her on medication to balance what the thyroid usually does. This may not balance out for up to a year, or it may just take a few weeks. So, for right now, I may not be updating as often as I should. Please accept my apologies in advance.
I have had a thought rolling around in my mind for the past couple of weeks now. It is getting stronger and stronger, but we'll have to wait 4 Kelley to be well into her recovery if it happens at all. The thought is this... What if I start an auto plant, using the soil as was described above, using the Fox Farmes and then on the bottom the soil that I am using now at full strength. The benefits would be, I would learn what the soil will actually do, I would actually see if I could finally grow an auto and it would give Jane a good extra-long veg cycle to get as large as she can while we will get a harvest as she is flipped. Thoughts? Opinions? Whatever you have to say about it, Pros and cons. positive or negative, I need feedback, please.

Prayers to both you and Kelley! I hope her surgery goes well and she recovers well and you get over your bronchitis. Take care both of you!
 
Thank you so much for the prayers and thoughts for Kelley. I'll pass them all along. We are getting ready to head to the surgical center now. I just had to at least let you all know that we appreciate those so much. She'll be there overnight, but thank God we have our daughter to help. As always, God knew what he was doing when he brought her here. I will probably be back home sometime late this afternoon or this evening. I'll try to login while waiting there. Once again our heartfelt thanks and may God bless! :circle-of-love:
 
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