Grandpa's Second Try - Come Join Us!

Thanks, IT and UA. Frankly it's just my stubbornness and my Cheapskate attitude. Am I discouraged? Yes. But with all of you folks behind me and taking the time and the financial measures you have taken on our behalf, I will not give up until all avenues has been explored. Or, all Avenue have been failed at 2 do any of you believe we should just pull them and start with the photo when we get the new soil? Or, should we keep them until they withered to nothing? I am at a loss as to what to do with them at this point. They are Autos, so there time clocks are running and expiring quickly.
 
I don't disagree with PW, but I offer this Grandpa......if you have the space, and light, would it hurt to keep the auto around and trying to nurse back to health while the other seeds are popped and I assume initially grow in a solo cup until ready for transplant?

If it doesn't hurt anything to keep it around, why not try that? I mean even if you only net a few grams, its still more than you had. Hell I used less than 6 grams to get me through 7 months of back pains (of course I was very skimpy and only medicated when the back was really really bothering me).

Thats just my .02
 
VS...this that's a great idea! The thing is... This new soil I have been told by their representative, and it may have been their owner, that all I need to do is fill the pot plant seed and there is no need for transplant. Now, that being said, maybe we can keep one of them and then put the photos in there with her we just have to pick which one we want to nurse.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
VS...this that's a great idea! The thing is... This new soil I have been told by their representative, and it may have been their owner, that all I need to do is fill the pot plant seed and there is no need for transplant. Now, that being said, maybe we can keep one of them and then put the photos in there with her we just have to pick which one we want to nurse.
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Let me offer this advice, and anyone else that grows or has grown in soil can chime in as well. I have found, in cannabis and in regular growing in general, that its generally easier to start a seed in a smaller container (solo cup or similar). Its easier to water, easier to move around, etc than just planting in its final pot. I tend to do 2 transplants on cannabis and 1 transplant on most other seeds I grow. Its much easier to water a solo cup than a 5 gallon pot full of soil. Honestly, I tend to start in clear solo cups that are dropped inside of same size red solo cups. I do this because I cut a couple small drain holes in the bottom of the clear cup and it allows any accidental over watering to drain into the bottom cup. It also allows me to watch the root development of the plant in the cup and pick the best time to transplant. This is kind of my set up.
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It also allows me to look at the condensation on the inside of the clear solo cup and determine if I need to water again (never want to over-water if possible). If there is condensation, no need to water.....if there is no condensation, then I need to probably water.

I tend to keep them in the cups for about 2 weeks before I transplant them into 1 gallon pots where they will grow until they are ready for their final pots. Transplanting is much easier for me than starting them out in 5 gallon (or bigger pots) pots.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
What you say makes a lot of sense, VS. I can see where the logic is sound. In the interest of learning and simplicity, maybe we'll start in the Solo Cup and then transplant to the final pot.
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It's a good plan Gramps. Having the root ball before transplant helps create a good rhizosphere and a happy plant.
Going from Solo cup to final pot will be ok, and it's a good way to check and make sure the roots are happy!
 
Idk i wouldnt keep the autos around.. just so your attention is all on the new lady. I definitely agree it helps to start them in a smaller container and transplant them.. especially if they are photos. It really helps them establish a good root system, then when you transplant them into the bigger pot their roots explode and the plants follow suit. I agree it would really help him since that seems to be the main issue.. the roots dying off.
 
I only have one concern with that plan. The transplant itself. I'm concerned that we cannot effectively do it, even though it is a very uncomplicated procedure. I know I'm probably putting the cart before the horse, but a lot of questions in mediately crop up. For example, do I use the same soil as the final soil in the Solo Cup? Do I spread the roots when I transplant them? Or, do I need them just the way they are? How far do I tap the dirt back into the hole? These are just examples. And I know I am way ahead of myself, but I felt it bore mentioning. Thanks for the advice so far, guys the new soil should be here tomorrow or Friday. Then I think we'll get started with the photos. I will do it all on This Journal, as they rather tie in together.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
I only have one concern with that plan. The transplant itself. I'm concerned that we cannot effectively do it, even though it is a very uncomplicated procedure. I know I'm probably putting the cart before the horse, but a lot of questions in mediately crop up. For example, do I use the same soil as the final soil in the Solo Cup? Do I spread the roots when I transplant them? Or, do I need them just the way they are? How far do I tap the dirt back into the hole? These are just examples. And I know I am way ahead of myself, but I felt it bore mentioning. Thanks for the advice so far, guys the new soil should be here tomorrow or Friday. Then I think we'll get started with the photos. I will do it all on This Journal, as they rather tie in together.
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Don't over complicate things Gramps. This is so much easier than you think. For me....what I do.....and I hope I describe it adequately enough for you....is I get the pot that I am going to be transplanting into and I fill about halfway up. Essentially you want to fill it up to the point where the solo cup can fit between where you filled it up to and the top of the pot. Then I take the solo cup and I put it in the pot where I intend it to go. I then backfill around the solo cup and then remove the solo cup leaving just the footprint of the solo cup. From there I gently remove the plant from the solo cup and sprinkly a little bit of myko on the roots and drop it right into the footprint of the solo cup in your new pot. Then gently pack the dirt around the hole you just transplanted into and then water. You can loosen the roots a little if you want but its not paramount for success. The roots will explode soon regardless.

I do all my transplants this way, doesn't matter if its Cannabis or tomatoes, mango trees or lemon trees, or pepper plants. It works on all of them and its really simple.
 
VS...that is a great description. And it does sound very simple to do. I believe I had someone described it almost exactly like that somewhere in the beginning of this thread or my first thread. Thanks for reminding me about it. One question... You say micos. I'm assuming that is a root treatment of some sort. Could we use something like root tone two encourage Ruth growth instead?

Now back to the existing plants...Kelley described to me this morning what sounds like the start of an actual Cola on Emma. I'm wondering if we should keep her around while vegging the new one. I don't see why not, as she would probably need less and less attention, which would not take much, if anything, at all from the concentration on the new plant. I would appreciate any opinions on this. If possible, please. We have decided to only do one photo just in case we have issues. That way we can just concentrate on the one instead of worrying about to possibly different symptoms on two different plants
 
Glad it came off as I intended it to. It is really simple. Its how I transplant anything I grow. I usually have 30-40 tomato plants a year I transplant, several pepper plants, and other things every year. Very easy to do and takes the guess work out of trying to figure out how deep or big of a hole you need for your plant.

I am not familiar with the product that you asked about, so I can't say. And honestly, while mykos (beneficial bacteria and micro organisms that promote healthy root growth) is good to have, its not necessary. On my first grow, I didn't use it at all on my 2 pot ups (One from solo cup to 1 gallon pot, and one from 1 gallon pot up to 5 gallon pot) and my grow was fine. I did transplants of other things in outdoor garden for years and never used it and never had a single plant every die during a transplant.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
I assume all of that including root tone, help with the stress of transplant on the plant.
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The Mykos are the micro organisms I was talking about Gramps! Like great white.
Great description for transplant!

I only have one thing to add;
When you go to remove the plant from the Solo cup, place your hand on top of the cup, with the plant stem in between your fingers. Basically creating a lid.
Then, with your hand like that, use the other to lift and flip over the cup. The root ball should come right out and you'll be holding it like a ball. Don't disturb it, we want that ball there! then set it in the footprint you made.
 
Then I guess we'll have to save for the great white. Thanks for that little addition. I would have probably taken it and held it by the stem instead of just pouring it out into my hand. So, stem between fingers and hand over cup pour it into my hand do not disturb it, then put it in the hole created and fill it back in until it is level with the rest of the soil and the same tamping pressure.
 
Eyes4grandpa said:
Then I guess we'll have to save for the great white. Thanks for that little addition. I would have probably taken it and held it by the stem instead of just pouring it out into my hand. So, stem between fingers and hand over cup pour it into my hand do not disturb it, then put it in the hole created and fill it back in until it is level with the rest of the soil and the same tamping pressure.
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Perfect Gramps!
You're going to do great my friend. We will all make sure of that
 
One other question for now before we get started with this new one. Should I use the same soil in the cup as the soil it will wind up in, or can they be different. What I was thinking was starting them in the Fox Farms, and then transplanting them into the build a soil blend.
 
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