Gardenfaerie Outdoor Organic Summer 2014 Flux and LST in Ground

Thanks yoos guys. We'll all find out eventually what will happen.

It wasn't the MM seedling I don't like, I don't like the way the plants appear in the ground. I only took a few pictures tonight before I got 300 mosquito bites. I'll grab more tomorrow of close up and whole plant. They are not putting on a lot of height and I think the main reason why this reveg did not complete its cycle in veg is directly due to no sun the whole month. I mean, spotty. Like one hour here, one there, but sometimes not till late when the wave lengths are different so not full spectrum, etc.
 
OK, I'm going to ready every page on this journal....see you in a couple days! :circle-of-love:
 
Next year consider doing what I do. Build a little black out chamber for the plants, and put sexually mature plants out in late February Or early March, let them flower like normal. Once they get a couple weeks in, do light deprivation and harvest in June.

Put next fall crop of sexually mature plants out in June, closer to the solstice the less chance to re vegetate. That way you don't have to deal with reveg and you get dank,dense and yummy buds all summer and there are naturally flowering plants for fall.


The high amount of clouds may have impacted your plants ability to revegetate properly like it needed to, but should still be able to grow dank,dense buds in cloudy weather, it was sexual maturity of the plant as related with the timing, which is inherently linked to the amount of Sun, and darkness. Use mother nature to your advantage instead of fighting her ;)


For your current crop, your potted plants should put out some nice and solid buds. I really hope your in ground ones do, it looks really confused. I think once the days get short enough it will just try to pack on some buds with what it already has. That's why it's not vegetating because the fibers are so woody already, they tried to get ready to put the weight on too early. The reason why Craw mention the pruning is because of mold and airy buds. We don't want a clustered mess of branches that is a breeding ground for blocked airflow, those little things will split up the energy and produce leafier buds, so I try to trim these bottom, revegetated branches to send more energy up to the "Main colas"

In fact, you can see in my journal, I call it the "Big KC-45 in the tent", this is a plant who has been growing since February outdoors, it flowered and then re vegetated, I even harvested a couple grams of really low grade bud off it back in April, I had to prune and trim off all of the revegetative growth down below, now the entire plant looks good as new.

Professional greenhouse growers who use light deprivation see up to 3-4 harvests of buds off the same set of plants per season. They just trim all the really good top flowers off, while leaving those bottom nugs on there, and they just keep growing back all season. They have specialized automated tarp systems though in very controlled outdoor greenhouse environments. My method is much more laidback, I just put my pots in the garage at the same time everyday, and take them out at the same time.

My latitude is 34 degrees, I'm thinking as you get closer to the equator there are more reveg problems, Craw probably can input on this and ask his peeps out in HI, from what I've heard there can be some crazy reveg problems in HI, still trying to figure it out. Region definitely effects the timing heavily. :surf:
 
I just blogged the entire post, Les. Great advice. I will eventually get into perpetual motion here. It is making more and more sense to me.

I don't know why it is so baffling, but it is.

Oh, BTW, EEG came back normal. One down. Next, MRI, then cognitive function testing with a shrink. So far, so good. Maybe I am just an old lady who forgets everything! Ya think? And maybe I'm panicking over nothing?
 
what RL said is 100% correct IMO, but to add a bit, a lot of it is strain dependent, 'tropical' strain are evovled in the tropics so they are more used to the lesser variance in light cycle and they tend to use other cues to a greater extent, like temps, moisture and plant maturity.

Here is why, from the Astronomy world and geometry of Earth's tilt, the closer you are to the equator of course the less variability, but there is one thing that most overlook, the RATE of that change varies. E.G. at my latitude, about 45 north, the day hours change more RAPIDLY near the extremes, both short and long, and the rate of change is much lower near the equinox. Closer to the equator the delta in the rate of change over the year is much less.

E.g at the Solstice, my day is MUCH longer then RL's or yours, and by the equinox they are more or less the same. so my rathe of change of daylight is going to be MUCH greater, and it varies more.

AS RL has said before the plants use the derivative of the light cycle, in otherwords the rate of change, as one of their factors.

The different varieties of marijuana have evolved different over the years depending on where their local environment was.

It is a VERY complicated and not simple issue, that is why my main goal is to replicate the light cycle of my planned move outside date for my location if I am vegging the plants indoor first, and let Mother Nature handle the rest. And hope I do not get early flower. worked this year.
 
I agree. If I am to grow outdoors under the sun there are absolutely thing needing to be addressed. I am tempted to just get the autos and grow them out immediately outside in 5 gallons.

That, plus order seed which does well in my position on earth. I do know that my days are closer to 12/12 all year around than anything else.
Sun rises and sets, but we have much later ambient light till 9:30p. In winter, we also have roughly 12/12, but the difference is the ambient light period is included in with the 12/12 and doesn't extend past.

So I need to find strains which do well here, in relatively dry, very hot weather. I took more photos of the whole plants. They did not put all that much height on, so stretching does not appear to be with us yet or ever.

Fingers crossed.
 
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The first few sets of leaves from a regrow have a totally different look then normal fan leaves, usually single or 3 bladed at most, and the edges that are normally serrated are much smoother or not serrated at all. Your outdoor plants have a lot of those, meaning they did or are trying to regrow. And your clone is an obvious regrow and healthy. See how it has 3, or more, stems growing from one spot, that why re grows get WAY to branchy :)
 
it means that they will grow the entire season :thumb:

I was going to comment on the three bladed leaves, but I didn't want to repeat myself and sound annoying.
 
Nobody is ever annoying who is trying to be of service to a fellow grower. Say anything in any of my journals in any way you like to express yourself. I don't mind language or anything, but I'd hate for anyone to leave the journal if language got out of hand. Not that it ever has.

Okay, so this growth is a decent sign then? If I get one or two ounces of pot from all six outdoor plants that will be satisfactory to me. Plenty satisfactory, so that should happen.

I do know when you take a clone from a female in flower it does put out a lot more branching. I don't know yet how I will address that aspect of the clone, but I'm sure you guys will help me when the time comes.

I really do want to try and listen to all of you and do whatever is the best thing, instead of relying on my own past knowledge of growing other plants. I have to learn to trust what others say. It's very hard for a PTSDer. And I'm stubborn.
 
I do know when you take a clone from a female in flower it does put out a lot more branching. I don't know yet how I will address that aspect of the clone, but I'm sure you guys will help me when the time comes.

Just trim off some branches after it gets bigger.

Okay, so this growth is a decent sign then? If I get one or two ounces of pot from all six outdoor plants that will be satisfactory to me. Plenty satisfactory, so that should happen.

Honestly not sure what your plants will do, but it all a learning experience and you will get something out of them
 
I was going to try again to flux this clone inside. I tried to look at the new growth using a loop, but I still couldn't make it out. It is still kind of wound tight in there. When it flops out I'll see what I have. Can I cut the old leaves off the clone?
 
my little plants give me 15-20 grams each. I think you'll get more bud than you're hoping for :)
 
I was going to try again to flux this clone inside. I tried to look at the new growth using a loop, but I still couldn't make it out. It is still kind of wound tight in there. When it flops out I'll see what I have. Can I cut the old leaves off the clone?

Are you talking about the clone you showed last that was taken in flower, if so yea I would grow it under lights indoor for another 2-4 weeks then put outside first half of August.
 
Okay, I'm going to do that! I'm interested in this Strawberry Blue. I see Pearl is also growing it.

Mid August, they go back out. By then I wonder what my outdoor grow is going to look like. I am just so damn curious I can't stand it.
 
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