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I’m thinking of just throwing these in 3 gallon bags and go the Geoflora route. Then I can take my time dialing in the soil for a Sativa grow. Idk.
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I used dolomite lime. It has to be that if you're going the lime route. I have no formula. I think I went with an extra cup in ten gallons and gave it a month or more to cook. I didn't make a seperate journal for that grow so I can't find where I amended it for the LC-18 grow. It's here somewhere, sorry.
Garden lime has less magnesium than dolomite.
It has to be dolomite or the soil ph doesn't move from what I hear.
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@InTheShed, I’m getting 5.8ph with the ffof also. Is it possible I’m doing the slurry test wrong?
Probably not as long as you use distilled, make a slurry, stir every 15 mins for an hour, and calibrate your meter!
I found my FFOF and HF both lower than I wanted, so now I just add 1-2 Tbs of dolomite lime to every gallon. Someday I'll retest after that.
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I used dolomite lime. It has to be that if you're going the lime route. I have no formula. I think I went with an extra cup in ten gallons and gave it a month or more to cook. I didn't make a seperate journal for that grow so I can't find where I amended it for the LC-18 grow. It's here somewhere, sorry.
Garden lime has less magnesium than dolomite.
It has to be dolomite or the soil ph doesn't move from what I hear.
False advertising!
That's the one I use...
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Yeah that’s what I’m doing. I calibrated it and tested it in the solution and it went right to 7ph.Probably not as long as you use distilled, make a slurry, stir every 15 mins for an hour, and calibrate your meter!
I found my FFOF and HF both lower than I wanted, so now I just add 1-2 Tbs of dolomite lime to every gallon. Someday I'll retest after that.
Wait, what's the false advertising part?
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Otter said he heard garden lime won’t move the ph. It says it’s specifically for that on the bag, that’s why I bought it lol.
But it's dolomite lime.
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That’s what I thought. There must be 2 different kinds of garden lime. I’m guessing 1 with magnesium and one not.
I dunno the difference in the wording but it says dolomitic limestone on the bag. Is there an actual definition of "garden lime"? I looked it up:
"There are different types of lime, and not all are meant for landscaping purposes. Lime intended for garden use is labeled as 'garden lime' or 'dolomitic lime.' Made from ground-up rock, limestone, or dolomite, lime is high in calcium. Dolomitic lime differs from garden lime in that it contains magnesium, in addition to calcium. Lime makes soils less acidic, raising the pH level."
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"Dolomitic lime is made from dolomite, a type of rock very similar to limestone except it also contains magnesium. Both types of lime provide calcium for plants, but dolomitic lime also supplies magnesium, a nutrient often low in soils in NC. Other types of lime you may find for sell include hydrated or slaked lime and quick or burnt lime. These are not recommended for lawns and gardens."
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"As the name suggests, dolomitic lime is manufactured by crushing dolomitic limestone down to very small pieces. As with agricultural lime, dolomitic lime works to increase the pH levels of acidic soil and return the earth to nearly neutral.
The primary difference between the two materials is that, in addition to containing calcium carbonate, dolomitic lime also contains a mixture of magnesium carbonate. Typically, the mineral is comprised of approximately 50% calcium carbonate and 40% magnesium carbonate with the remainder being other materials.
Because both calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate are basic, the idea is that both can work together to improve soil conditions while also introducing valuable nutrients into the earth that are essential to plants."
Seems like they both work to raise pH if you're not concerned about adding magnesium.
"There are different types of lime, and not all are meant for landscaping purposes. Lime intended for garden use is labeled as 'garden lime' or 'dolomitic lime.' Made from ground-up rock, limestone, or dolomite, lime is high in calcium. Dolomitic lime differs from garden lime in that it contains magnesium, in addition to calcium. Lime makes soils less acidic, raising the pH level."
Do Your Plants Need Garden Lime? Here's How to Tell
Not all types of soil need lime added to it. Follow our guide for the best type of garden lime for your vegetable garden and when you should add garden lime powder to your soil.
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"Dolomitic lime is made from dolomite, a type of rock very similar to limestone except it also contains magnesium. Both types of lime provide calcium for plants, but dolomitic lime also supplies magnesium, a nutrient often low in soils in NC. Other types of lime you may find for sell include hydrated or slaked lime and quick or burnt lime. These are not recommended for lawns and gardens."
Does Your Lawn or Garden Need Lime?
Lime can harm acid loving plants like blueberries. Does your lawn or garden need lime? If you live in southeastern North Carolina the answer to this question is a definite maybe. This is because our soils vary so much from one yard to the next. For some yards, lime needs to be added every few...
pender.ces.ncsu.edu
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"As the name suggests, dolomitic lime is manufactured by crushing dolomitic limestone down to very small pieces. As with agricultural lime, dolomitic lime works to increase the pH levels of acidic soil and return the earth to nearly neutral.
The primary difference between the two materials is that, in addition to containing calcium carbonate, dolomitic lime also contains a mixture of magnesium carbonate. Typically, the mineral is comprised of approximately 50% calcium carbonate and 40% magnesium carbonate with the remainder being other materials.
Because both calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate are basic, the idea is that both can work together to improve soil conditions while also introducing valuable nutrients into the earth that are essential to plants."
AGRICULTURAL LIME VS. DOLOMITE LIME - Braen Stone
Agricultural Lime Vs. Dolomite Lime. The natural stone product of agricultural lime is used to improve growing conditions for farms, gardens and lawns.
www.braenstone.com
Seems like they both work to raise pH if you're not concerned about adding magnesium.
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Cool, I think we’re good.
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So I poured all the soil out and calculated the best I could how much lime I needed considering the ph. 2.75 cups per bin. I hope it’s right.
So @StoneOtter , if I let these go 2 more weeks or up pot them while I’m waiting on the soil, would it be pointless to use the sips considering the advanced root development?
So @StoneOtter , if I let these go 2 more weeks or up pot them while I’m waiting on the soil, would it be pointless to use the sips considering the advanced root development?
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Good morning. They’re all growing but my two Tropicana Cookies are a little slow to wake up. I’m guessing they’re all waiting for a nutrient dose. Yesterday afternoon I top dressed with all purpose under a layer of moist ffof. This morning they got their 1st real watering. I gave them about 20oz apiece, 1/2 RO and 1/2 tap with Recharge at 1/2tsp per 1/2gal. Amount was determined by the size of the root ball, just till it was dripping out the bottom. Stank Breath is a little pale but she’s always been.
The Frosted Gelato and Stank Breath appear to be growing the fastest .
The Frosted Gelato and Stank Breath appear to be growing the fastest .
I'm sure they're going to appreciate the food. 
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Are these brown roots the cause for the droopy plants?
Were they waterlogged at some point?
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They were pretty wet when I got them and I didn’t watered before transplant.
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Getting a little bigger by the day. The T.C’s in the middle perked up a bit but are still pretty droopy. I’m not sure what to do with the G.P at the end. Thing needs to be laid down sideways, everything else looks trainable.
So I was thinking that maybe there was a labeling mixup between the Stank and Frosted Gelato. There’s nothing indica about the Stank and nothing Sativa about the F.G.
There was a fire sale on Mars lights so I picked up 2 more 300w’s. This should do the trick. 2 350w and 2 300w = 1300w. The other will be used for a small veg tent when the time comes. It’ll be much cooler with no drivers and cob heat sinks in there.
So I was thinking that maybe there was a labeling mixup between the Stank and Frosted Gelato. There’s nothing indica about the Stank and nothing Sativa about the F.G.
There was a fire sale on Mars lights so I picked up 2 more 300w’s. This should do the trick. 2 350w and 2 300w = 1300w. The other will be used for a small veg tent when the time comes. It’ll be much cooler with no drivers and cob heat sinks in there.