FirstGrow - Miss Northern Lights
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VtecHoe
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Thanks for that grant and vannelle lol
I gave her a little prune today, got some pictures and 2 pics of my friends 2 plants, white widow and red tai dragon
Pictures are better than typing:
^ think i went a bit to far with the pruning, think ill give her a week to recover from the butchering lol
Grant hurry up and wake up and tell me i havent destroyed NL lol
I gave her a little prune today, got some pictures and 2 pics of my friends 2 plants, white widow and red tai dragon
Pictures are better than typing:
^ think i went a bit to far with the pruning, think ill give her a week to recover from the butchering lol
Grant hurry up and wake up and tell me i havent destroyed NL lol
ggrant
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You did a great job, V-Man, and you certainly didn't go to far. I would also have cut off the big fan leaves on the bottom, just for the hell of it! As they're on the bottom, they're not blocking any light, so there's no point trimming them.
I have been trimming my plants about once a week when I fertilize them. Keep an eye on all the places where you have trimmed the leaves and you should see a lot of new growth from these nodes. In a week, it won't even look like you've trimmed her at all!
Keep posting pictures. You can never have too many. People just love to look at pictures of these babies. If you keep doing that you'll also get more traffic to your journal and that could lead to a gig as a late night talks show host. Anything's possible.
I have been trimming my plants about once a week when I fertilize them. Keep an eye on all the places where you have trimmed the leaves and you should see a lot of new growth from these nodes. In a week, it won't even look like you've trimmed her at all!
Keep posting pictures. You can never have too many. People just love to look at pictures of these babies. If you keep doing that you'll also get more traffic to your journal and that could lead to a gig as a late night talks show host. Anything's possible.
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VtecHoe
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Think im going to top her again in the next few days, Give it a few to recover from being butchered lol
She seems alright though, One of them kush's is seriously on the stretch, other one doesnt seem as bad :/ weird
Im keeping an eye for new growth after its haircut, just to see how it copes with the stress, doesnt seem to affected by it to be fair
Merry Christmas Everyone
ggrant
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God, she looks so much better now, VMan!
I don't know about you, but I like a neatly trimmed bush.
Seriously, you can actually see the interior of the plant. It looks light and airy, which means light will be able to not only reach further down, but the inside shoots will get a chance to develop as well. She also looks fairly symmetrical.
In your last post, you had pictures of some pretty plants in flower. What are they?
I don't know about you, but I like a neatly trimmed bush.
Seriously, you can actually see the interior of the plant. It looks light and airy, which means light will be able to not only reach further down, but the inside shoots will get a chance to develop as well. She also looks fairly symmetrical.
In your last post, you had pictures of some pretty plants in flower. What are they?
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VtecHoe
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Hey Grant,
Got a plastic knife and a plastic loop off the top of a milk bottle to support the kush thats reaching for the sky lol
Noticed NL seems to be drinking alot of water, Watered it before i went to bed, Woke up, Bone dry, And it had a major soaking `_`
Them 2 plants that are flowering are my friends who i let use my red cfl ( hence me having to get another ), The one on the right is white widow one on the left is red tai dragon, Should be ready in 2-3 weeks
Got a plastic knife and a plastic loop off the top of a milk bottle to support the kush thats reaching for the sky lol
Noticed NL seems to be drinking alot of water, Watered it before i went to bed, Woke up, Bone dry, And it had a major soaking `_`
Them 2 plants that are flowering are my friends who i let use my red cfl ( hence me having to get another ), The one on the right is white widow one on the left is red tai dragon, Should be ready in 2-3 weeks
ggrant
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Thought they were yours, V-Man, and that you'd been holding out on us!
Yeah, it's weird how sometimes you think your plant doesn't need any water because you've just watered her yesterday and when you go to check, it's almost completely dry.
Personally, I think it's
Did you fertilize her recently? If not, you should do so (and do so any time you trim the plant). After a major trim, these gals need a lot of water and nutrients to grow back what you've cut off.
Keep the pics coming!
Yeah, it's weird how sometimes you think your plant doesn't need any water because you've just watered her yesterday and when you go to check, it's almost completely dry.
Personally, I think it's
Thirsty Pixies
Did you fertilize her recently? If not, you should do so (and do so any time you trim the plant). After a major trim, these gals need a lot of water and nutrients to grow back what you've cut off.
Keep the pics coming!
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VtecHoe
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Afternoon everyone, my head is beating severely hard today, didnt get to bed till half 6 this morning, UHHHHHH!!
Just checked on my baby and noticed some of the leaf edges on the new growth are curling up? is this normal or whats up with her, Going to start the flowering at midnight tonight on her, Some pics below.... Also hope none of you are as rough as me today, im hanging by a thread, literally!
^ Is it normal for loads of these white hairs to appear round bud sites even when it isnt in flowering :/
Just checked on my baby and noticed some of the leaf edges on the new growth are curling up? is this normal or whats up with her, Going to start the flowering at midnight tonight on her, Some pics below.... Also hope none of you are as rough as me today, im hanging by a thread, literally!
^ Is it normal for loads of these white hairs to appear round bud sites even when it isnt in flowering :/
ggrant
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Are you sure those are hairs, V-Man?
I can't see clearly enough from your pictures, but if it isn't in flower, those are just new leaves sprouting from the top. When new leaves emerge, they are a very pale green that looks almost white. The new leaves are thin and rolled up and might be mistaken for pistils.
Look more closely. If you can't see anything, keep an eye on one of the "flowers" and see what happens. They should start to open up and the leaves unfurl while at the same time the leaves will eventually turn darker.
If the older leaves are starting to curl up, it is likely a Magnesium deficiency. To correct this, add one tablespoon of Epsom salts per gallon with your next watering. If it's a fert cycle, it's OK to just add it along with your regular nutrient mix. (Before you do this, read on.)
As this is your first grow, I recommend you follow the standard playbook. Always flush your plant before putting it into flower and flush it again just before harvest.
To flush, have at hand a large quantity of the same water you normally use (run off, water left standing for a day.) Then put your lady in a bath tub and start pouring lots of water into the soil. You're trying to get rid of the accumated mineral salts in the soil and at the base of the roots. Don't get too carried away with things like (20% runoff, etc.). Use a lot of water and aim for about 100% runoff. Afterwards, fertilize with your normal nutrient dosage. Again, be generous with the amount you use.
It's hard to get carried away. Some people say that too much runoff will shock the plant. C'mon, have you ever been in a rainstorm? Outdoors, these babies could be stuck in the rain for hours! And you're putting nutrients back in the soil ten minutes later. What's the big deal? These aren't fat American kids who will starve if they aren't fed every couple of minutes!
Oh, and if you've already put her into flower, you should still flush the plant. In fact, you can flush at any time. It's the easist way to correct a nutrinet imbalance. If you've used a lot of nutrients on your plants (especially if they're not organic), there will be a lot of accumulated salts in your soil. This causes mineral lockout, i.e,, some minerals may have a high enough concentration that they block the absorption of other nutrients. One example is too much Potassium locks out .... guess who? Magnesium. Trying to correct the problem by adding more of the locked out mineral can cause other minerals to get locked out, creating a vicious cycle that's impossible to correct.
I can't see clearly enough from your pictures, but if it isn't in flower, those are just new leaves sprouting from the top. When new leaves emerge, they are a very pale green that looks almost white. The new leaves are thin and rolled up and might be mistaken for pistils.
Look more closely. If you can't see anything, keep an eye on one of the "flowers" and see what happens. They should start to open up and the leaves unfurl while at the same time the leaves will eventually turn darker.
If the older leaves are starting to curl up, it is likely a Magnesium deficiency. To correct this, add one tablespoon of Epsom salts per gallon with your next watering. If it's a fert cycle, it's OK to just add it along with your regular nutrient mix. (Before you do this, read on.)
As this is your first grow, I recommend you follow the standard playbook. Always flush your plant before putting it into flower and flush it again just before harvest.
To flush, have at hand a large quantity of the same water you normally use (run off, water left standing for a day.) Then put your lady in a bath tub and start pouring lots of water into the soil. You're trying to get rid of the accumated mineral salts in the soil and at the base of the roots. Don't get too carried away with things like (20% runoff, etc.). Use a lot of water and aim for about 100% runoff. Afterwards, fertilize with your normal nutrient dosage. Again, be generous with the amount you use.
It's hard to get carried away. Some people say that too much runoff will shock the plant. C'mon, have you ever been in a rainstorm? Outdoors, these babies could be stuck in the rain for hours! And you're putting nutrients back in the soil ten minutes later. What's the big deal? These aren't fat American kids who will starve if they aren't fed every couple of minutes!
Oh, and if you've already put her into flower, you should still flush the plant. In fact, you can flush at any time. It's the easist way to correct a nutrinet imbalance. If you've used a lot of nutrients on your plants (especially if they're not organic), there will be a lot of accumulated salts in your soil. This causes mineral lockout, i.e,, some minerals may have a high enough concentration that they block the absorption of other nutrients. One example is too much Potassium locks out .... guess who? Magnesium. Trying to correct the problem by adding more of the locked out mineral can cause other minerals to get locked out, creating a vicious cycle that's impossible to correct.
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VtecHoe
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Defo white hairs, Ive attached some more pics and its been flushed with Canaflush which removes excess nutrients... Bit worried cause it isnt a autoflower, 100%, Hope grant can shed some light as its a bit weird and grant, they are all around the bud sites, every single one
^ Bottom left of that photo you can see them clearly
^ Bottom left of that photo you can see them clearly
ggrant
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]Boy, I need to take a nap. Drank too much coffee and can't sleep.
Anyway, regarding your question, it looks like she is in flower. This plant may be able to read your mind. She probably knew you were going to put her in flower, so she started wothout you. Sounds like my old girlfirend!
Seriously, though, it could be anything. As CSN urged in Carry On,
It could be the mix of nutrients. Maybe the daylight cycle was shorter than usual. It's possible her biological clock's ticking. Just speculating, but some plants may have autoflower-like characteristics and be programmed to flower after a certain number of days in veg.
Hopefully, someone will know what is happening. Regardless, it is nothing to worry about.
Before I put my gals into flower, I was experimented with reducing the daylight cycle gradually. Rather than go abruptly from 18/6 to 12/12, I gradually reduced the cycle to 16/8, then 14/10, intending to finally go to 12/12.
Some growers like to do this so that their plants gradually get accustomed to the "change of seasons."
Anyway, when I hit 14/10, I decided the plants were smaller than I wanted, so I switched back to 18/6 for another week or so (can't remember exactly how long).
Theoretically, none of tis should have initiated flowering as there had not been even a single 12 hour period of complete darkness. But my gals knew something was up. As soon as I switched to 12/12, they almost immediately went into flower.
Let me show you what I mean:
It's totally amazing what can happen in five days!
You flushed the plant before flowering. Come up and get your Merit Badge!
Regarding the leaves curling up: this may have been from a pre-existing imbalance before you flushed them. Unless it looks like it's getting worse, give her a few days to get used to her new environment and see if the condition reverses. If it doesn't or starts getting worse (leaves turning yellow or getting brown spots on them), use the Epsom salts treatment mentioned above.
You might want to do it anyway, just for the hell of it. Some growers use Epsom salts every watering because they have hard water (the minerals in hard water can lock out Magnesium), so one application won't do any harm. Mg is essential to chlorophyl production and that is why the leaf initially turns yellow. An easy way to remember this is:
Anyway, regarding your question, it looks like she is in flower. This plant may be able to read your mind. She probably knew you were going to put her in flower, so she started wothout you. Sounds like my old girlfirend!
Seriously, though, it could be anything. As CSN urged in Carry On,
It could be the mix of nutrients. Maybe the daylight cycle was shorter than usual. It's possible her biological clock's ticking. Just speculating, but some plants may have autoflower-like characteristics and be programmed to flower after a certain number of days in veg.
Hopefully, someone will know what is happening. Regardless, it is nothing to worry about.
Before I put my gals into flower, I was experimented with reducing the daylight cycle gradually. Rather than go abruptly from 18/6 to 12/12, I gradually reduced the cycle to 16/8, then 14/10, intending to finally go to 12/12.
Some growers like to do this so that their plants gradually get accustomed to the "change of seasons."
Anyway, when I hit 14/10, I decided the plants were smaller than I wanted, so I switched back to 18/6 for another week or so (can't remember exactly how long).
Theoretically, none of tis should have initiated flowering as there had not been even a single 12 hour period of complete darkness. But my gals knew something was up. As soon as I switched to 12/12, they almost immediately went into flower.
Let me show you what I mean:
November 20
November 25
November 25
It's totally amazing what can happen in five days!
You flushed the plant before flowering. Come up and get your Merit Badge!
Regarding the leaves curling up: this may have been from a pre-existing imbalance before you flushed them. Unless it looks like it's getting worse, give her a few days to get used to her new environment and see if the condition reverses. If it doesn't or starts getting worse (leaves turning yellow or getting brown spots on them), use the Epsom salts treatment mentioned above.
You might want to do it anyway, just for the hell of it. Some growers use Epsom salts every watering because they have hard water (the minerals in hard water can lock out Magnesium), so one application won't do any harm. Mg is essential to chlorophyl production and that is why the leaf initially turns yellow. An easy way to remember this is:
"If they leaves turn up like they're praying, they're praying for Magnesium!"
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VtecHoe
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Ill put her in 12/12 tonight at 1am... Its just strange as it is not an auto it was just a feminzed northern lights seed |:, Thank you for the merit badge, ill wear it with pride!
I see what you mean, 5 days difference is crazy
Thank you for clearing my confusion up g, was a bit like w t f when i seen it today, miss nl obviously loves me and wants to help me as much as possible lol
Im wide awake to, had about 10 redbulls, flying about
I see what you mean, 5 days difference is crazy
Thank you for clearing my confusion up g, was a bit like w t f when i seen it today, miss nl obviously loves me and wants to help me as much as possible lol
Im wide awake to, had about 10 redbulls, flying about
ggrant
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Hey V-Man. I thought you might like these links for future reference:
What to look for to determine the sex of your plant:
Plant abuse chart. This has saved my bacon many times. By experience, I'm familiar with the most common problems (at least with my plants), such as overtfert, nitrogen, potassium and magnesium deficiencies, over and underwatering, etc. But there's a ton of lot stuff that you hope never happens to your plants.
Almost forgot. Here's the link:
What to look for to determine the sex of your plant:
Plant abuse chart. This has saved my bacon many times. By experience, I'm familiar with the most common problems (at least with my plants), such as overtfert, nitrogen, potassium and magnesium deficiencies, over and underwatering, etc. But there's a ton of lot stuff that you hope never happens to your plants.
Almost forgot. Here's the link:
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VtecHoe
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Thanks for that Mr G, Been having a read through the links you hooked me up with - Winning
Just curious does temp matter when the lights are off? Might be stupid but it gets a bit chilly in my cupboard at night, well it was 15c when i opened it this morning and with the light on its like 30-35 :|
Just curious does temp matter when the lights are off? Might be stupid but it gets a bit chilly in my cupboard at night, well it was 15c when i opened it this morning and with the light on its like 30-35 :|
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Im alive btw, Just been on the drink for a few to many days, I have pulled my head out from my cheeks and ive got an update:
Flowering started 25/12/11, Red cfl fitted today 28/12/11, 12/12 going alright
Pictures:
^ Autoflowering kush, go little guy go
Flowering started 25/12/11, Red cfl fitted today 28/12/11, 12/12 going alright
Pictures:
^ Autoflowering kush, go little guy go
ggrant
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Hey V-Man,
Been out of action for a week, so sorry I haven't gotten back to you.
From what I can see, it looks like there are more flowers. Good on you, mate!
As far as room temperatures and stuff goes, here's my take on the subject. (I'll probably get some rocks thrown at me for being so cavalier about this.)
I don't have a thermometer, humidity gauge, or soil pH tester. (If I had them I'd probably use them, though.) I can't do too much to change the charactertics of my grow space and mostly I don't give a damn about measuring everything.
Plants flower when autumn arrives. Guess what, it gets cold at night! Some of these ladies' cousins come from the mountains of South Asia. I live near mountains and it gets cold at night, even in the summer.
My grow space has a water heater / furnace in it, so it never gets very cold. However, in the summer it's hot (because it's hot outside and the water heater is on) and in the winter it's hot (because the furnace is on almost all the time). When I walk in, there's a blast of heat. It's like being in a jungle.
As far as I'm concerned, the only time you have to worry about cold temps is when you're germinating seedlngs and when you're rooting clones.
In fact, I think the warmer temps are great! Think of these things growing in a Vietnamese Jungle.
The heat causes the plants to respire more (the plant version of heavy breathing on the telephone). The more they respire, the more moisture they'll draw up from the roots, the more nutrients they'll absorb, and the faster they'll grow. You'll probably find that you have to water your plants more.
The only deadly mistake you can make is to let the plants dry out when it's hot and the humidity is low. They can forgive a lot of things, but forget to water them and you're off their Christmas Card List!
Been out of action for a week, so sorry I haven't gotten back to you.
From what I can see, it looks like there are more flowers. Good on you, mate!
As far as room temperatures and stuff goes, here's my take on the subject. (I'll probably get some rocks thrown at me for being so cavalier about this.)
I don't have a thermometer, humidity gauge, or soil pH tester. (If I had them I'd probably use them, though.) I can't do too much to change the charactertics of my grow space and mostly I don't give a damn about measuring everything.
Damn it Jim, I'm a farmer, not a scientist!
Plants flower when autumn arrives. Guess what, it gets cold at night! Some of these ladies' cousins come from the mountains of South Asia. I live near mountains and it gets cold at night, even in the summer.
My grow space has a water heater / furnace in it, so it never gets very cold. However, in the summer it's hot (because it's hot outside and the water heater is on) and in the winter it's hot (because the furnace is on almost all the time). When I walk in, there's a blast of heat. It's like being in a jungle.
As far as I'm concerned, the only time you have to worry about cold temps is when you're germinating seedlngs and when you're rooting clones.
In fact, I think the warmer temps are great! Think of these things growing in a Vietnamese Jungle.
I love the smell of MJ in the morning!
The heat causes the plants to respire more (the plant version of heavy breathing on the telephone). The more they respire, the more moisture they'll draw up from the roots, the more nutrients they'll absorb, and the faster they'll grow. You'll probably find that you have to water your plants more.
The only deadly mistake you can make is to let the plants dry out when it's hot and the humidity is low. They can forgive a lot of things, but forget to water them and you're off their Christmas Card List!
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VtecHoe
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Hello Mr G, Thanks for that info it helped and answered some of the doubts i had, Only thing i have is a thermometer lol... Going to check your grow journal once i put my pics 
Pics:
^ Keeps finding a way to lean towards the light lol
Pics:
^ Keeps finding a way to lean towards the light lol
ggrant
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That little Auto Kush is really sweet looking and healthy, too.
Looks like you've got a high school demonstation of heliotropism! Turn the little Kush around once or twice a day. In the real world, the plant gets sun from the east for half a day and then from the west the rest of the day. If you let it stay in one position, it will turn into the Leaning Tower of Pisa!
Looks like you've got a high school demonstation of heliotropism! Turn the little Kush around once or twice a day. In the real world, the plant gets sun from the east for half a day and then from the west the rest of the day. If you let it stay in one position, it will turn into the Leaning Tower of Pisa!
ggrant
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V-Man,
Long time, no post.
What's up? You're not still hung over from New Year's Eve, are you?
Post some new pictures when you get a chance, man!
Long time, no post.
What's up? You're not still hung over from New Year's Eve, are you?
Post some new pictures when you get a chance, man!