First Grow - 4x4 - 1000W MH/HPS - DWC

Hey sweetexide, thanks for the advice bro, I was kinda shooting in the dark on that one. Just kinda went off what other peoples looked like.

So...Where I topped the plants, will two more stems grow from the cut? Or does the plant just grow exponentially more from its other sights now? I suppose that I could just wait and see.....lol


Anyways, update is coming tonight. I will say, I added a 1/4 more nutes because the GSC looked like that deficiency was coming back, also added a 3/4 dose of voodoo juice (15ml) this morning.

Stay tuned :thumb:
 
11/18 UPDATE:

Okay so as I said earlier, I added addition nutrients. 5ml of M,G,B and 15ml of voodoo juice. Also, used about 3-3.5ml of Cal/Mag for the GSC only, she seems to require more than the others because signs of the deficiency is back it looks like (correct me if I am wrong, will show in pic of new spots on 1 leaf).

GSC:: PH=5.8:: ppm=400-450:: rez=69-71F
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The leaf in question on the GSC, Cal/Mag deficiency?? (added 3ml of Cal/Mag xtra)
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WWxBB PH=5.8:: ppm=400-450:: rez=69-71F Looking real good so far, roots have tripled
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F&V PH=5.8:: ppm=400-450:: rez=69-71F
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All three together; they are starting to take over the buckets, they should be nice bushes by next week.
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After seeing how they take to this last dose of nutes, I will start adding more. I only used a 1/4 dose this go around. I notice that at the beginning of the grow...I used 3/4 nutes on the first dosing...totally did not read the directions right. but they never got burned it seems so I am feeling good about it.

Let me know what yall think so far!
 
Small update:

Looks like some burning on the tips of the leaves this morning. Obvious, small nute burn, will keep an eye on it, if it gets worse...I'll probably dump the rez and start over with lower ppm. I am gonna let it ride for now, stay tuned.
 
Oh my lol 3/4 is the closest I've ever been to full strength fertilizer. Let alone on small plants haha I bet you are glad you reread that bottle now instead of halfway through flower.

When in doubt add purified Ph'd water to lower ppm if your reservoir allows for enough to be added to dilute. Saves dumping perfectly good nutes ;)

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SweeetExide said:
Oh my lol 3/4 is the closest I've ever been to full strength fertilizer. Let alone on small plants haha I bet you are glad you reread that bottle now instead of halfway through flower.

When in doubt add purified Ph'd water to lower ppm if your reservoir allows for enough to be added to dilute. Saves dumping perfectly good nutes ;)

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reps++for good advice:thumb:
 
Thanks for the words of wisdom Sweeet! Is distilled water good too?

I also added a humidifier today too, AH= 60%~ from 30-40%. Will use this until they start giving off their own moisture in a few weeks


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Purified water is <10ppm and includes distilled and reverse osmosis waters. Both would be perfect for you.

Distilled and Reverse Osmosis are names given to water that have been purified. Water is boiled to leave salts behind, becoming steam. Once it condenses in a separate chamber it is distilled water.

R.O. uses a series of filters to achieve a similar process.

Remember spring water has salts left in it and is not ideal.


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TheDankDuo said:
So...Where I topped the plants, will two more stems grow from the cut? Or does the plant just grow exponentially more from its other sights now? I suppose that I could just wait and see.....lol

Stay tuned :thumb:
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When you top a plant at a certain node, what you are doing is breaking the plant's "apical dominance" which refers to the hormones which direct growth to build a single main cola with weak/skinny lateral branches. Topping once will cause the two growth tips at the node you topped to become the two new "main colas" and they will start making nodes of their own. The plant will also delay vertical growth and develop thicker stems and tighter node spacing. Each new cola will be slightly smaller than if you had left the plant untopped, but it is still a good trade-off yield wise.

Example 1: Plant with 1 main cola, the cola weighs 1 oz
Example 2: Plant with two main colas, each weigh .75 oz, for a total of 1.5 oz

Hope that helps!

:Namaste:
 
TheFrizz said:
When you top a plant at a certain node, what you are doing is breaking the plant's "apical dominance" which refers to the hormones which direct growth to build a single main cola with weak/skinny lateral branches. Topping once will cause the two growth tips at the node you topped to become the two new "main colas" and they will start making nodes of their own. The plant will also delay vertical growth and develop thicker stems and tighter node spacing. Each new cola will be slightly smaller than if you had left the plant untopped, but it is still a good trade-off yield wise.

Example 1: Plant with 1 main cola, the cola weighs 1 oz
Example 2: Plant with two main colas, each weigh .75 oz, for a total of 1.5 oz

Hope that helps!

:Namaste:
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Awesome help there bud! Some good info, really appreciate it.


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TheDankDuo said:
Awesome help there bud! Some good info, really appreciate it.


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Thanks, I happen to believe that topping and DWC fit quite nicely together since the plants recover and grow so insanely fast during the vegetative stage. If you haven't already done so, I would highly recommend checking out Nugbuckets mainlining tutorial or Nebula Haze's manifolding technique. It is a really great way to understand the growth and structure of the plants on a very intimate level, and helps to plan out your grow to make the most of your space :) Granted you probably wouldn't want to manifold an auto but some of the basic principles (getting the maximum amount of light to the maximum amount of bud sites) still apply.
 
TheFrizz said:
Thanks, I happen to believe that topping and DWC fit quite nicely together since the plants recover and grow so insanely fast during the vegetative stage. If you haven't already done so, I would highly recommend checking out Nugbuckets mainlining tutorial or Nebula Haze's manifolding technique. It is a really great way to understand the growth and structure of the plants on a very intimate level, and helps to plan out your grow to make the most of your space :) Granted you probably wouldn't want to manifold an auto but some of the basic principles (getting the maximum amount of light to the maximum amount of bud sites) still apply.
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Thanks Frizz! Sounds like some good info, I'll definitely check it out today.
 
Danolo said:
Hi there DD, your grow looks like the kind of setup I want. I'll be reading.

One question: Why did you choose to grow autos rather than a photo strain?

No criticism, just curious what makes that choice.

Thanks
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Hey Dan, thanks for dropping in on my humble start of a grow here. Let me know if you have any questions regarding the grow/set-up if you need help when the time comes. To answer your question; multiple things influenced my decision for autos for my first grow 1) the ruderalis in auto make is pretty resilient to ph/temp/humidity mess ups, and I was concerned on getting my environment perfect before spending lots of time on a few plants, then something happens and I am out of not only money but lots of time too. 2) Photos seem great to me, and I am definitely going to get my hands into them at some point,( probably when i can invest in a LED veg tent :P) however, I really wanted a fast crop to have also, the whole point of this is so I dont have to buy it anymore for my personal use.

Update on the babies: The WW and the F&V ppms upon measurement after the light had come on was about 100 less than what they were (450 down to 350ish). So I added 3ml of M,G,B (little less than a 1/4 dose) to the buckets of those two, ppm back up to 424-450~ish. Keeping a close eye on the tips of the leaves for nute burn, they took the last feeding like a champ very very minor burnt tips on a few leaves here and there, probably more from the freak warm weather a few days ago when they were fed. The GSC didnt seem to take up much nutes, but did take up some water, so no nutes were added to her, she might be needing more cal-mag soon tho im thinking. The GSC roots did double practically in one day though.

They all seem pretty happy at the moment, I do not want to disturb them much, they are turning into bushes slowly but surely.....FULL UPDATE TOMORROW NIGHT

Thanks peeps for the support
 
11/21 UPDATE:

Here we are, around the 3rd week from sprouting; I would say we are a quarter of the way there :P! Stoked!

Anyway
I added a bucket with a rag hanging up out of it, for added humidity, I took the humidifier out because it wasn't really holding humidity up high at all(might add it back to see how they both do together, just doing some experimenting). I'm not to worried about the humidity, even though it is low, the ladies do not seem to disturbed by it. Also, I added 3ml of M,G,B nutes to the GSC, because she did alot of growing today/ the ppm after adding water was around 350-380.

NEED ADVICE** so...I have tiny little white things on the leaves sometimes, idk if I am just tripping/high or what. they do not move....cause I have sat and stared at them. It could be from the rocks that i use for grow medium? I swear sometimes i'll see stuff flying around in the tent but it could be the light messing with my eyes. LOL idk guys. if they are tiny bugs what would the fix/ preventive measures be?


ALL Three Ladies (GSC bottom right, WWxBB top middle, and F&V bottom left)
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GSC
PH: 5.75: PPM: 450ish REZ: 64-66F Temp: 74-78F(ON) 68-72F(OFF)
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WWxBB
PH: 5.8: PPM: 450ish REZ: 64-66F Temp: 74-78F(ON) 68-72F(OFF)
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F&V
PH: 5.8: PPM: 450ish REZ: 64-66F Temp: 74-78F(ON) 68-72F(OFF)
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They have been enjoying colder temperatures and chilly water. Stay tuned, next update in 3 days.
 
Looking good! You may want to remove a leaf or two if they get damp but overall, having such compact node spacing and a sturdy plant structure will set you up for success! Those roots are beautiful, they look like pristine snowflake material :goodjob:

I am 99.999999999% sure that the white spots on your leaves are bits from the rocks, and not bugs. I did not see a single bug my entire grow in DWC in a tent (and the bedroom window was open), and you are much tidier and more meticulous than I am. However.....sometimes life finds a way! :laugh:
 
TheFrizz said:
Looking good! You may want to remove a leaf or two if they get damp but overall, having such compact node spacing and a sturdy plant structure will set you up for success! Those roots are beautiful, they look like pristine snowflake material :goodjob:

I am 99.999999999% sure that the white spots on your leaves are bits from the rocks, and not bugs. I did not see a single bug my entire grow in DWC in a tent (and the bedroom window was open), and you are much tidier and more meticulous than I am. However.....sometimes life finds a way! :laugh:
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I am very happy with the growth to date, the roots are definitely liking the colder water/voodoo juice; thanks for all the advice and support Frizz. That is a relief about the bits of rock, that was my first guess, but then I over analyze...lol.

Once they stretch out of the buckets some more (within a few days) I will start LSTing. Not really sure how to do it, but I will figure it out and do some more research. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
 
QUICK UPDATE:

Just did nightly check, and PPMs on WW and F&V had dropped so I added another 3ml of M,G,B along with some DO water. The GSC ppm had not dropped much because she was fed just yesterday unlike the others (2 days ago), the GSC was given some DO water and 3ml of Cal/Mag Xtra cause she is a thirsty trick. Will give them all more water tomorrow evening probably given their track record as of late, and their next dose of z7.

They look great though...stay tuned...
 
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