Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing

Traits are going to be lost regardless along the way unless you are doing fields of open pollinations, selective breeding is just that, selecting one male to hit one female to take the best traits from each strain while breeding out the bad traits :thumb: its not a perfect science, you may be taking away 10 bad traits but along with it goes 5 good ones, comes down to how good the breeder is and their selections ;)
I definitely want to learn how to breed well
 
Lost or unlocked? I believe environment allows certain expressions whilst holding back others.. why a clone indoors will look nothing like its twin planted outside.. even changes taste and effect..
 
Whats it called when a grape plant takes on the flavour profile of that area because of its soil. Pinon noir or Something like that. I was reading something on it the other day. It started off as a wine thing
 
Exactly.. but further, especially cannabis and how it breeds, apparently we lose all these terpines profiles etc through genetic bottlenecking but a simple home cross will show throw backs in ancestry :rofl:
 
Whats it called when a grape plant takes on the flavour profile of that area because of its soil. Pinon noir or Something like that. I was reading something on it the other day. It started off as a wine thing
Thats down to several things, its the weather - direct sunlight, prevailing winds, length of days and rainfall. The profile of the soil and the rock beneath plays a huge part too, the chemicals in the rock and soil imparts a lot of the flavour profile of the grapes. The weather does a lot with the sugars in the fruit, making the grapes either sweet or sour. The original grapes come from the area around Shiraz in Iraq, selective breeding and years of growing in various places around the world has led to numerous flavours - much like the selective breeding of Cannabis has exploded in the past 50 years with the constant search for a new blockbuster strain.
Whats it called when a grape plant takes on the flavour profile of that area because of its soil. Pinon noir or Something like that. I was reading something on it the other day. It started off as a wine thing
 
I told you I was gonna have more questions right...?

I was talking to this dude at the LHS and he suggested I put my 'dude' outside and not let it anywhere near the garden as I would ruin everything I have in flower. He also said that one pollinated female will pollinate the entire crop. He also said that once a male starts to drop pollen they will continue until they die. Any validity to this?

In the mean while, I've got some clones of the male and they're all doing well, none are out of the dome yet but they are looking healthy and happy. I haven't noticed any new growth yet, but they are standing tall, and look like they'll make a full recovery.

Here's what I'm considering; Letting all my current ladies finish and then once I've got stock I want to seed putting it all into the tent at once. Since I've got the Haze X Male, I'll be using him for the pollen. I've got a few ladies that I will throw in there to get knocked up. I guess my question is this, "Is there any reasonable level of cleaning I need to do after I pollinate? I've only got one tent that I use for flower. My grow area is 55.75 square meters, although I'm really not using all that space.

I'm scared and it's not because of Halloween...
 
I told you I was gonna have more questions right...?

I was talking to this dude at the LHS and he suggested I put my 'dude' outside and not let it anywhere near the garden as I would ruin everything I have in flower. He also said that one pollinated female will pollinate the entire crop. He also said that once a male starts to drop pollen they will continue until they die. Any validity to this?

In the mean while, I've got some clones of the male and they're all doing well, none are out of the dome yet but they are looking healthy and happy. I haven't noticed any new growth yet, but they are standing tall, and look like they'll make a full recovery.

Here's what I'm considering; Letting all my current ladies finish and then once I've got stock I want to seed putting it all into the tent at once. Since I've got the Haze X Male, I'll be using him for the pollen. I've got a few ladies that I will throw in there to get knocked up. I guess my question is this, "Is there any reasonable level of cleaning I need to do after I pollinate? I've only got one tent that I use for flower. My grow area is 55.75 square meters, although I'm really not using all that space.

I'm scared and it's not because of Halloween...

Ok so in a way he is right and another he is wrong :rofl: I wouldn't recommend attempting pollination unless you have a completely separate area to do so, I wouldn't do it anywhere near my flower tent while there are other plants flowering ;) Yes males will continue to drop pollination all the way throughout flower but not till they die, I have successfully revegged a male and as soon as they are back in a comfortable veg state they will not drop pollen. A pollinated female will not pollinate other plants if cleaned afterwards, basically what you need to do is pollinate it elsewhere (for me I use a separate tent, air exhaust has a carbon filter to stop pollen escaping tent), wait a day or 2 for the females pistils to turn or recess which indicates they have been successfully pollinated, after this it is safe to spray down that female with water which will kill off any excess active pollen and stop the spread to any other plants, will be safe after this to move into the flower tent ;) I would also recommend limiting the airflow through the tent while you have a male in there, will stop the pollen from lingering in the air as much, I don't run any fans in my pollen tent apart from the exhaust :thumb:
If you plan on using your tent for the process you will need to give it a good clean afterwards, as I said earlier water kills the pollen so give it a good spray down and scrub and shouldn't have any future issues, I usually do it with water first and then give it a hit with soapy water after :thumb:
 
Ok so in a way he is right and another he is wrong :rofl: I wouldn't recommend attempting pollination unless you have a completely separate area to do so, I wouldn't do it anywhere near my flower tent while there are other plants flowering ;) Yes males will continue to drop pollination all the way throughout flower but not till they die, I have successfully revegged a male and as soon as they are back in a comfortable veg state they will not drop pollen. A pollinated female will not pollinate other plants if cleaned afterwards, basically what you need to do is pollinate it elsewhere (for me I use a separate tent, air exhaust has a carbon filter to stop pollen escaping tent), wait a day or 2 for the females pistils to turn or recess which indicates they have been successfully pollinated, after this it is safe to spray down that female with water which will kill off any excess active pollen and stop the spread to any other plants, will be safe after this to move into the flower tent ;) I would also recommend limiting the airflow through the tent while you have a male in there, will stop the pollen from lingering in the air as much, I don't run any fans in my pollen tent apart from the exhaust :thumb:
If you plan on using your tent for the process you will need to give it a good clean afterwards, as I said earlier water kills the pollen so give it a good spray down and scrub and shouldn't have any future issues, I usually do it with water first and then give it a hit with soapy water after :thumb:

I walk in flower room only got 2 Nana's in my pocket.
I polinate the baddest hoes ,I wear your grandpas clothes.
Don't listen to the hydroshop down the road
 
That's it, can collect pollen and only applicate it where you want if you are only looking for a few seeds from each plant :) Man some of the old wives tales you hear, just like the one about you cant have any males in your veg tent or it will ruin your females :rofl: I mean come on they got diseases now? :rofl: :rofl: I think I'm more worried about one of my females turning hermy on me and pollinating the crop more than a male, got a lot more control on a plant you know is going to drop pollen compared to a female spazzing out halfway through flower :rofl:
 
Ok, so I think I'm understanding a bit better now. I'm going to keep my male clones and wait for the reveg, in my part of the world we are moving toward winter so I can pollinate outside then spray down the girls and put'em back in the tent after I see confirmation of pollination. I remember what you said about the water, I'll keep the mister bottles full!!!

Since I have the dude outside and he's prolly gonna be droppin pollen soon.

How you you collect and save it?

Is that possible?
 
Will need to be stored in a dry dark spot, ive collected pollen before by shaking the male over a sheet of glass, use a razor blade to scrape it up, then goes into a light-proof sealed container with a few grains of rice to keep it dry and then straight into the freezer ;) Not sure how long it stays viable, would try to use it as quick as possible :thumb:
 
Will need to be stored in a dry dark spot, ive collected pollen before by shaking the male over a sheet of glass, use a razor blade to scrape it up, then goes into a light-proof sealed container with a few grains of rice to keep it dry and then straight into the freezer ;) Not sure how long it stays viable, would try to use it as quick as possible :thumb:

I'm thinking to be on the safe side I will not be doing any pollinating until 2018. I will keep my guys blue balled with all the fems cruising around my tents. and No matter what happens all cloning will need to be done in the cooler months and outside.

On a side note, I created an MP3 of Smoke More Cones from the video you posted. My friend was cracking up!!! He said the same thing I did, "WTF'sa cone?"
 
Lol Good day of the morning to you peeps.

Good morning Matey :thumb:

I'm thinking to be on the safe side I will not be doing any pollinating until 2018. I will keep my guys blue balled with all the fems cruising around my tents. and No matter what happens all cloning will need to be done in the cooler months and outside.

On a side note, I created an MP3 of Smoke More Cones from the video you posted. My friend was cracking up!!! He said the same thing I did, "WTF'sa cone?"

:rofl: :rofl:
 
Shit those bags of coarse pearlite are massive. Like double the length of coco bags. Looks like im dragging a rolled up dead body out the car lol

lol yeah they are huge, light as a feather though :rofl: :rofl: ive still gotta get down to the hydro shop and grab some, will have to be tomorrow I think ;) Cheap as shit though, a lot better than paying $9 for 5lt at Bunnings :rofl: :rofl:
 
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