Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing

I had an interesting thought as I was glossing over the different seeds and vendors out there. It got me thinking about Blue Berry specifically, but I think many other strains apply to this question as well. If I have "the same seeds" for example BB, from two different vendors, are they the same. Like say I have BB regular from CKS and then I get BB feminized from Dutch Passion. Are they going to be the same genetically? And if/ when I cross them will I still have an F2 phenotype?
 
redmud said:
Dude I can't wait for your outdoor that lettuce looks good! nice recovery new growth is happening fast.
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Thanks bro, lettuce was going good in normal soil but was yellowing off pretty rapidly, less than a week in this soil and its doubled in size and so lush green now :passitleft:

Agemon said:
Clone it all, flower the clones, hoper for one of the results I'm looking for, the hard part comes later.
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That's it mate, breeding can be a long process, once you have some parent stock though it becomes a bit quicker :thumb:

Agemon said:
I had an interesting thought as I was glossing over the different seeds and vendors out there. It got me thinking about Blue Berry specifically, but I think many other strains apply to this question as well. If I have "the same seeds" for example BB, from two different vendors, are they the same. Like say I have BB regular from CKS and then I get BB feminized from Dutch Passion. Are they going to be the same genetically? And if/ when I cross them will I still have an F2 phenotype?
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Very hard question to answer, depends where their genetics come from, CKS don't breed their own seeds, they purchase them off another breeder, its the same with a lot of "breeders" out there. You also need to remember there are people out there renaming strains to make a quick buck so may not even be related to the other strain :thumb: There is a chance its the same thing coming from the same breeder that sells seed in bulk, if it has been worked by a proper breeder it will depend on what route they have taken on their selections, no company is going to select the same 2 phenotypes in each generation so its pretty safe to say it will probably be different for each breeder you go to. I wouldn't have a clue what they will produce but I'm guessing would be a lot more uniform offspring than an F2 generation being a bit more distant in genetics :thumb:
 
Not everything sold is an f1.. you could be stabilising it more but are your parents better than those used? Now what happens....
 
That's it man and most wont tell you what generation they are at either, ive heard of some strains being inbred to the point if you take it to the next generation they mutate :thumb: Blueberry is like up to F16 or something from DJ Short from what I hear :rofl: All comes down to selections if you are stabilising or making things worse, taking the first male and female you get from each strain is a recipe for disaster and even worse to make selections without seeing them in every stage of growth ;)
 
Pics from flower, first male removed, a Killer Queen x Cindy Haze

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and our first female showing, another KQ x CH

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another KQ x CH

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SSH #1 is looking awesome :)

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White Jack #2 is looking even better ;)

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the 3x Mango

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White Jack reveg DWC

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Elephant Stomper

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Jandre Kush #1

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Jandre Kush #2

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Bruce Banner

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Sour White Jack

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Skywalker Kush

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Re: Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing

santb said:
Hey, Fez.. How's it going?? Looking great as usual. Love your photos..
Noob question!!
Just flicking through trying to pick from where I last read (good luck; 30-odd pages later!), got to this post...
Kinda ruined my day, cos I am about to do this very thing with all 6 my Golden Tiger regs and 1 fem.... All are popped; the GT fem is about 3 weeks old now; was planning to flip soon; the regs will be 12/12 at a week or two old. First real sativa; the going is slow...
So I'm actually glad I read it.. Don't wanna waste the pollen.
Does what you said apply to "Feminized" versions of the same strain? If I was to pollinate the feminized GT only, and grow out the female regs, would that get me better seeds?? At least the buds would be worth it..
Or just use the pollen on other strains. I was already planning that long term, which is why I want the seeds... Not to grow more of the same (maybe sometimes), but mostly to find males for pollen; to pollinate a branch or two of every plant I grow from now on...
Would F2 seeds be fine for this use?
Cheers, Man! Hope all is well with you.
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You will love the GT. Ripper smoke. I only grew one fem and have some cuts but it was carefully (too carefully) pollinated with a chem heavy male so will see what comes of it. Mine was a great little plant and i will be experimenting with it into the future. Good luck with yours.
 
nah the Cindy Haze was a freebie from Brothers Grimm, I got 5 with my Killer Queen pack, its a cross of Cinderella 99 x (SSH x Cinderella 99) :thumb: first one I dropped was male so I used that against my KQ, got a few more Cindy Hazes in veg now looking for a female ;) The bruce buds are definitely unique compared to everything else in the tent right now, smokes up pretty nice but ive literally only grown tiny plants of it so far, I think it would do a lot better in DWC but before I run it I want to search through the rest of the pack and find the best one ;)
 
Makes sense to search if you can. So double c99 with some haze sounds great too. Then with KQ. Got to be some crazy frost. Something i want to try one day, c99. Yeah id like to see how the BB goes in the DWC big style. Im fudging my way through, having only the one male well... as i find males that basically look ok, ill mix them with my keeper females and who knows one day something might go boing (probably my brain). Its like a year long process per lot of seeds i reckon. Like the whole cycle. Sex them clone them breed them grow them sex them select them (maybe). And a lot of hard work so i take my hat off to you for your persistence. Anyway i want sour jack x killer queen so hurry the fuck up! Lmao.
 
Black Thumbs said:
That's a lot of variety you got in flower.
Still love the look of banner .
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Thanks mate ;) sux having such small plants but will get a few tested at the same time so I can work out what I want to make big plants in the future hehe, I'm still thinking about changing to 1m tents for flower and run a flood and drain in one with like 12 clones, let it go nuts :rofl: I will have to get some of the banner crosses to you for future use when you get a chance to hunt some regs :thumb:
 
AussieBlueTHC said:
Makes sense to search if you can. So double c99 with some haze sounds great too. Then with KQ. Got to be some crazy frost. Something i want to try one day, c99. Yeah id like to see how the BB goes in the DWC big style. Im fudging my way through, having only the one male well... as i find males that basically look ok, ill mix them with my keeper females and who knows one day something might go boing (probably my brain). Its like a year long process per lot of seeds i reckon. Like the whole cycle. Sex them clone them breed them grow them sex them select them (maybe). And a lot of hard work so i take my hat off to you for your persistence. Anyway i want sour jack x killer queen so hurry the fuck up! Lmao.
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Yeah the good thing about the Cindy haze is its sort of within the same family, the Jack Herer that was originally pollinated where Mr Soul found Princess is suspected to have been pollinated by an SSH male :thumb: This cross was originally a winning female SSH cut hit with C99 male, an outstanding male was selected from the offspring and then hit their best C99 female ;) They also made another but instead of hitting a C99 mother they put that same male on Princess and called it Princess Haze :thumb:
That's it man, your crosses will get better with the better plants you find :thumb: ive got a few males here waiting in line and I don't know which one to use after PU :rofl: Can be a very long process if you are not ready for it, I fucked up this time round and didn't have plants ready to throw into the pollen tent so I'm now wasting time vegging plants in there so I can make my next crosses :rofl: Really should be one round of pollination, run them to full term, veg plants ready for the next round while these ones are flowering, harvest and move the next round straight in, repeat cycle over and over :rofl: :rofl: that's the plan anyways lol, then its a matter of having enough room to have all them in veg along with all the plants you are getting ready for the other areas :rofl:
When I do the Sour Jack crosses back to the WJ mother and also make some F2's I will throw a KQ in there and make you some seeds bro :rofl: :rofl:

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Similar to why i am trying to use the Black Gold male as its all from the same chem family. So my theory is im going to get some version of the mix no matter what. I have a nice Deputy male but then it could swing either way so not sure ill ever use it. He will sit there until i flower out his sister properly to get some idea. But yeah ill be up for some of those seeds when it happens for sure! .
 
Dready loves them hehe, always dropping by my insta posts and stuff, was saying to him the other day I need to fill my jars as I miss having her around, said he needs to do the same as he's almost out :rofl: Its one of his fav strains too, once I get some stability I will send him off some seeds so he can hit his WJ with a nice male :) he is working on releasing a lot of reg stuff soon too :thumb:
 
FeralA9X said:
I'm even thinking of throwing my other new White Jack in for pollination also which should be interesting, tents going to be full of White Jack and SWJ phenos along with 1 killer queen :rofl: :rofl:
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Can only see positives going on in that room:)
A good WJ male crossed with your pheno QK would be holy grail stuff.
 
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