Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing

[Agemon]

Question for y'all about choosing plants to make seeds.

I've got a few seedlings sprouted and im seeing you interesting results. Haze X from CKS, has good consistency, all 3 babies are uniform. I feel like they're all good choices for makin seeds.

The BB though seems a bit more unstable. 3 different looking plants. Do you simply just pick the two biggest and uniform looking plants?

Haze Extreme

BlueBerry

I dont even know if I've got girls or boys yet.

Any info is appreciated!

 

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[FeralA9X]

Question for y'all about choosing plants to make seeds.

I've got a few seedlings sprouted and im seeing you interesting results. Haze X from CKS, has good consistency, all 3 babies are uniform. I feel like they're all good choices for makin seeds.

The BB though seems a bit more unstable. 3 different looking plants. Do you simply just pick the two biggest and uniform looking plants?

Haze Extreme

BlueBerry

I dont even know if I've got girls or boys yet.

Any info is appreciated!

At the stage they are at it wouldn't be wise to start making decisions on selecting parents to make seeds, there are a lot of things to keep in mind when making your selections, for starters you need to work out are you breeding for potency, effect, yield, flavor, coloring, vigor, or just trying to make more seeds etc. I try to keep an eye on a few things in veg, first I look at the leaf structure and try to find a plant with very symmetrical leaves, I then look at the stems and try to find something nice and stable, don't need flimsy stems (this is most important when selecting males from what ive noticed), then whilst looking at the stems I look at how the nodes are stacking, pretty much all you can do in veg Flowering is where all the fun begins, this is where you can see the possibilities of each plant and if they are worth breeding with, first thing I look for in females is the node stacking again, doesn't stretch too severe and doesn't become a lanky bitch with tiny buds Once the buds start forming I look for colas with low leaf to calyx ratio, this way its easier to trim and more bud Males are very similar in selections, looking at how the pollen sac clusters form, node stacking, resin production, can give the stems a rub for picking up certain odors etc. Males can be smoked too but ive never tried, I make my selections on how they look and smell in flower.
Its not till you have harvested and smoked the plant you can select it based upon potency, flavor etc, sometimes it takes a few runs before deciding if its worth using or not. What I would recommend is say you find a male and a couple of females, throw them all in at the same time and see how they go, the male will pollinate all the females but you will also get to see how the plant flowers at the same time, one plant may produce amazing offspring and the other might be crap, can chop that one but at least now you know you can cross that male back to that good female and produce awesome offspring if you didn't get enough seeds from the first run Say you find a few males, throw them all in together, they wont pollinate each other, then simply pick the best one based on your breeding approach One thing I will say though is make sure you are taking clones of everything, its much easier and quicker turn around than reveg

 

[Partimus]

Hey Feral,

all going well by the looks. some good info on your plant selection process mate, cheers for that. Always interesting following along

 

[Agemon]

At the stage they are at it wouldn't be wise to start making decisions on selecting parents to make seeds, there are a lot of things to keep in mind when making your selections, for starters you need to work out are you breeding for potency, effect, yield, flavor, coloring, vigor, or just trying to make more seeds etc. I try to keep an eye on a few things in veg, first I look at the leaf structure and try to find a plant with very symmetrical leaves, I then look at the stems and try to find something nice and stable, don't need flimsy stems (this is most important when selecting males from what ive noticed), then whilst looking at the stems I look at how the nodes are stacking, pretty much all you can do in veg Flowering is where all the fun begins, this is where you can see the possibilities of each plant and if they are worth breeding with, first thing I look for in females is the node stacking again, doesn't stretch too severe and doesn't become a lanky bitch with tiny buds Once the buds start forming I look for colas with low leaf to calyx ratio, this way its easier to trim and more bud Males are very similar in selections, looking at how the pollen sac clusters form, node stacking, resin production, can give the stems a rub for picking up certain odors etc. Males can be smoked too but ive never tried, I make my selections on how they look and smell in flower.
Its not till you have harvested and smoked the plant you can select it based upon potency, flavor etc, sometimes it takes a few runs before deciding if its worth using or not. What I would recommend is say you find a male and a couple of females, throw them all in at the same time and see how they go, the male will pollinate all the females but you will also get to see how the plant flowers at the same time, one plant may produce amazing offspring and the other might be crap, can chop that one but at least now you know you can cross that male back to that good female and produce awesome offspring if you didn't get enough seeds from the first run Say you find a few males, throw them all in together, they wont pollinate each other, then simply pick the best one based on your breeding approach One thing I will say though is make sure you are taking clones of everything, its much easier and quicker turn around than reveg

Clones? What are those? Thanks Feral!!!

 

[FeralA9X]

I have been flat out this weekend, been trying to get on and do updates but have not had the chance, so much has been changed around, will work on getting some pics up soon Hope everyone is well

 

[Merkle420]

I have been flat out this weekend, been trying to get on and do updates but have not had the chance, so much has been changed around, will work on getting some pics up soon Hope everyone is well

I'm not well at all..., I HAVE SEEDS IN MY BUDS! I took my male plant out long before it was near popping and I don't know how the hell I have seeds! I can't see any Hermies anywhere!

 

[FeralA9X]

Ok so onto it, ive noticed a lot of burning on my coco girls as of late and I worked out why, its the cheap shit coco blocks from Bunnings, they now all have added fertilizer, I didn't even realise till I got another one home but I wont be buying that shit anymore, the stuff I have now will be flushed hoping to remove most of the crap. The plants worst affected were completely flushed, each pot with about 20L water, will continue to monitor them but if keeps going will run a few flushes with Flora Kleen

Friday Night was Harvest night for Gorilla Bomb, that's all I got around to achieving which was a lot in itself, managed to fill the cupboard so I'm guessing at least 8oz dry Sorry for a lot of the pics, not the best, mostly shot under CMH

And here is a little something I found while harvesting, Another point scored for Feminised seed this one here aint nanners, its a full on male sack, either from the GG#4 hermy shit genetics or feminization Luckily the whole plant was not like this, I found 3 male preflowers and 4 seeds, I'm expecting more seeds once I do a dry trim

So Saturday I started around 10am in there, potted up mostly everything and moved a whole heap of shit around in all tents, finally starting to get back on track and free up some space, I'm actually thinking about dropping some more seeds In the flower tent I decided to pull all plants out and give the tent a good clean, removed all the unused airlines and pots etc that were sitting in there and gave all the DWC's a good clean. Lights were next on my agenda, I hung them back on ratchet hangers and dropped the lights down about a metre, now sitting about 2ft above the canopy So much more space now that GB is gone, managed to fit 15 plants in, including a DWC

Skywalker Kush

Sour White Jack

Jandre Kush #1

Jandre Kush #2

Bruce Banner

Elephant Stomper

White Jack

White Jack #2

SSH #1

3x Mangos

3x Killer Queen x Cindy Haze

So in veg I didn't grab many pics but will tonight, 91'Krypt clone still has not rooted so I couldn't move it into the DWC after transplanting White Jack, I ended up washing the coco off a c99 clone I had and moved it in there The Face Off OG is looking very male to me so once 91 roots I will cut out the FO and use that DWC for it, I have taken clones from the male but cant use them yet, no point taking up the DWC with it

 

[FeralA9X]

I'm not well at all..., I HAVE SEEDS IN MY BUDS! I took my male plant out long before it was near popping and I don't know how the hell I have seeds! I can't see any Hermies anywhere!

Damn man that sux, got a few in my Gorilla Bomb too this time around, really cementing my thoughts against feminised seeds. How bad are they seeded mate? could just be throwing a random nanner here and there, can be pretty hard to find sometimes may have accidentally tracked pollen in from somewhere else, doesn't take much at all, male might have opened its preflowers without you knowing before you removed it, just sux man, I feel for you
I'm hoping that none of my current flowering girls grow seeds, I know exactly where the pollen came from, my Gorilla Bomb which will make the seeds useless to me

 

[Spookies]

Feral's Journal Of Insanity & Some Growing

Worrying news about that fert coco plug nightmare! Thanks for the heads up!

Plants look great those mangos will be fantastic! Mm mangosteen crazy auto type.

.

 

[FeralA9X]

No worries mate, may be different in other stores but id recommend reading the whole package because it was tiny and all the focus was taken away from the fact it had ferts May be alright to use with plain water in veg for a while but any added nutes it has a shit fit same as in flower, it doesn't like it one bit
Yeah I'm heaps excited for the mangos and the Killer Queen cross White Jack #2 though is looking like an even better plant than my original, will find out in about 9 weeks

 

[Agemon]

Follow up questions about picking breeders. Im thinking that making more seeds is what i want to do. I can do the screening after i get seeds. Backwards i agree but i recently popped 6 seeds, 3 from 2 different strains and i think they're all female. Ive been using this method for identifying.

Is this not a trustworthy practice? How old do the plants need to be?

Im just hoping for a male so i can start pollination. Ive got a strong BB Im gonna clone from, and I've got a nice Haze too, both im sure are females, based off the above picture.

I also traded a guy yesterday for some Candy Cane. Dude gave me a 3 foot tree! 6 of those clones i showed you in my last post are candy cane. Gonna flower the first clone that shows me new growth.

This pic before taking clones.

What would you do? Hunt for the perfect male specimen or use the first one you get and go from there?

Show me the way Cannabis Master!

 

[bignugz420]

Ok so onto it, ive noticed a lot of burning on my coco girls as of late and I worked out why, its the cheap shit coco blocks from Bunnings, they now all have added fertilizer, I didn't even realise till I got another one home but I wont be buying that shit anymore, the stuff I have now will be flushed hoping to remove most of the crap. The plants worst affected were completely flushed, each pot with about 20L water, will continue to monitor them but if keeps going will run a few flushes with Flora Kleen

Friday Night was Harvest night for Gorilla Bomb, that's all I got around to achieving which was a lot in itself, managed to fill the cupboard so I'm guessing at least 8oz dry Sorry for a lot of the pics, not the best, mostly shot under CMH

And here is a little something I found while harvesting, Another point scored for Feminised seed this one here aint nanners, its a full on male sack, either from the GG#4 hermy shit genetics or feminization Luckily the whole plant was not like this, I found 3 male preflowers and 4 seeds, I'm expecting more seeds once I do a dry trim

So Saturday I started around 10am in there, potted up mostly everything and moved a whole heap of shit around in all tents, finally starting to get back on track and free up some space, I'm actually thinking about dropping some more seeds In the flower tent I decided to pull all plants out and give the tent a good clean, removed all the unused airlines and pots etc that were sitting in there and gave all the DWC's a good clean. Lights were next on my agenda, I hung them back on ratchet hangers and dropped the lights down about a metre, now sitting about 2ft above the canopy So much more space now that GB is gone, managed to fit 15 plants in, including a DWC

Skywalker Kush

Sour White Jack

Jandre Kush #1

Jandre Kush #2

Bruce Banner

Elephant Stomper

White Jack

White Jack #2

SSH #1

3x Mangos

3x Killer Queen x Cindy Haze

So in veg I didn't grab many pics but will tonight, 91'Krypt clone still has not rooted so I couldn't move it into the DWC after transplanting White Jack, I ended up washing the coco off a c99 clone I had and moved it in there The Face Off OG is looking very male to me so once 91 roots I will cut out the FO and use that DWC for it, I have taken clones from the male but cant use them yet, no point taking up the DWC with it

That cut that you mixed with Cindy Haze looks amazing you know I love my C99 I just flowered one in veg and was 3.5ft tall or a little over a meter, scared about the stretch of her and blue dream both are huge

 

[GrizzWald]

Hey mate I've been waiting for some updates,thought I'd pop one up to see if your about, then realised I'd lost the sub here. Don't know how.... anyways, looking great bro , nice harvest of the gb, flowers look good. Couple quick pics, I took photos using flash and only one pic of each,quality control have a long weekend, a day off

G13skunk

Master Kaze

 

[FeralA9X]

Follow up questions about picking breeders. Im thinking that making more seeds is what i want to do. I can do the screening after i get seeds. Backwards i agree but i recently popped 6 seeds, 3 from 2 different strains and i think they're all female. Ive been using this method for identifying.

Is this not a trustworthy practice? How old do the plants need to be?

Im just hoping for a male so i can start pollination. Ive got a strong BB Im gonna clone from, and I've got a nice Haze too, both im sure are females, based off the above picture.

I also traded a guy yesterday for some Candy Cane. Dude gave me a 3 foot tree! 6 of those clones i showed you in my last post are candy cane. Gonna flower the first clone that shows me new growth.

This pic before taking clones.

Yep that's the way to identify Waiting for a plant to mature and show sex in veg can be in as little as 6-8 weeks depending on strains, some can take months to show, the ones that take ages I usually just throw into flower and find out that way, will only take a week or two to show sex under 12/12 then I can move my males out to the breeding area, pick my favorite and select a couple of females to join
Damn, a 3ft clone awesome, gotta love that

What would you do? Hunt for the perfect male specimen or use the first one you get and go from there?

Show me the way Cannabis Master!

Well I haven't had big runs of strains like id want to be selecting a perfect male from yet but I wouldn't go using just any male either The males I have chosen to use so far have been stand out plants in veg, plants I originally were hoping to be female due to how good they looked, smelled and their structure etc Once they hit flower you still have about 2-3 weeks before they start dropping any pollen to watch and see how their flower clusters form, if they are not shaping up the way you like you can always chop them before they do any damage Ive been pretty lucky with my selections so far, the Sour D reaked of lemons in veg, leaves were gorgeous, strong structure, short distance between nodes and really vigorous, Cindy Haze looked like a female plant in flower, only it didn't have buds, just clusters of pollen sacs The Purple Urkle male I'm using next was by far one of the best looking plants ive had in veg, stood out to me like Killer Queen did since seedling age, node structure and branching is perfect, he has been in the pollen tent before but only to sex, his pollen sacs turned purple and stacked up like a female too

That cut that you mixed with Cindy Haze looks amazing you know I love my C99 I just flowered one in veg and was 3.5ft tall or a little over a meter, scared about the stretch of her and blue dream both are huge

Thanks mate I cant wait to see how they go in flower, finally starting to get a few of my own crosses in the flower tent and man they are performing well Ive just put in a C99 from Brothers Grimm into a DWC so should see it in the flower tent in a couple of months, super excited, 90% sure its female

Hey mate I've been waiting for some updates,thought I'd pop one up to see if your about, then realised I'd lost the sub here. Don't know how.... anyways, looking great bro , nice harvest of the gb, flowers look good. Couple quick pics, I took photos using flash and only one pic of each,quality control have a long weekend, a day off

G13skunk

Master Kaze

Thanks bro yeah the GB flowers turned out alright with a bit of a trim, will all look the same in a bag Man those girls are looking frosty, how much longer to go on them?

 

[GrizzWald]

G13 just starting to swell, all clear, couple weeks, few more for kaze.. two distinct pheno mkaze, stretchy and squat. Flowers look similar on both.. nev Skunk is awesome, going to take a while I think.. I've got couple nice critical Skunk med man and La Niña about to flip.. man, I think you'll like what you see once you start getting into your mns beans.. you'll be right but I would really encourage newer growers to choose strain by them, start with shit shark shock and go up to ssh bw etc, some are a little more sensitive and finicky to grow..

 

[Agemon]

So just keep popping seeds til a plant i hope to flower shows up male?

 

[FeralA9X]

Sounds like they are going well man Yeah I'm liking what I'm seeing already from what I have dropped, hoping the SSH I moved into flower the other night is a fem because its looking really nice, got another SSH in veg, 3x Black Widow and one is looking real good, also have 4 of the La Nina in too I'm hoping to find a nice female for outdoor this year

 

[FeralA9X]

So just keep popping seeds til a plant i hope to flower shows up male?

Nah you don't have to do it that way, generally most males should work out fine for the home breeding side of things if you are just making seeds for yourself, generally if a strain is pretty uniform then the males will be the same, you might find that one really special male in there that gives you a bit extra resin or bigger flowers etc but all will produce relatively similar results. The reason I say making seeds for yourself is you can then drop 1000 seeds that haven't cost you a cent and find that something special, if you were to be making them seeds for sale people would be expecting to find something special in a pack of 5 or 10, that's when you need to be selecting a bit more carefully, find that super special male and female

 

[Agemon]

Got it.