Experiments With Blue Cheese - Brassic Style

Since she has minimal side branching, you would be best to bring the top down, allow the lower branches to grow up a little then open her out from there :)

OK. Thanks Mono, I'll repot her first then go along with that.
 
BB, is topping her not an option for you? I suggest topping just above those 2 large lower set of fan leaves and leave their corresponding branches intact as they would then become the 2 new primaries. This would give you a low broad base and horizontal branching can commence. This will decrease some height that you'll have to fight later on, plus if Fluxing is something you maybe wanna try, you'll have that option as well.

If topping is not an option, I agree with Mono by grabbing her by her neck and bend her over as much as you dare. I bend and release my tops frequently with gardener's wire. This helps me control height, and allows me to redirect light and air movement. If you forsee a lot of bending in this plant's future, especially severe bending, you might consider getting a silica product into your feed regimen. Just small doses goes a long way and you could use the silica as a PH UP as it's very Alkaline. Silica makes plants very pliable and malleable.
 
Of course you can. Just cut where ever you want more or less. No 45º cuts or nothing like that, just snip at the desired height. the only exception to that is that you leave behind an adequate amount of foliage to be able to generate new growth. You can grow a plant all the way to 6+ feet then top it back down to 6 inches, so long as the leaves that remain on the plant can photosynthesize and help build the new growth. Frow what I saw, you had 2 large fan leaves with a few smaller leaves below that which is more than enough to generate new shoots. However, in your case, because those 2 shoots are already growing, 2 new ones might not arrive and I actually believe she will have to deal with less stress. As a newb, I myself have undertaken to try every known and proven technique at least once. My last grow was a male in soil, with 4 clones and 2 germed bag seed in an aeroponic, with those plants I sampled aero, soil, DWC, FIM, multiple toppings (my favorite BTW is topping), foliar feeding, defoliation and anything else I could imagine to try. Heck, it took about 6 people to talk me down from trying LA's Flux technique on my current grow as I really wanted to try it.

If you are still unsure of where to go with your grow, maybe spend some time on YouTube watching vids about different manipulative growing techniques till you find one that seems right to you. IMO, topping is one of the most basic and works very well for me. With topping, you know you will always get "2" new shoots, and that knowledge will empower you to determine how your plant grows and in LA's case, how many flowering branches will be produced. My first (male) plant, I had topped it 3 times. Once to make the main split, then about 3" after that I topped each of those 2 again, making 4 main shoots. With a razor, or cleaned scissors, cut wherever you want the main stalk to split. This changes growth from true vertical to 2 diagonal growths. It still grows up, but not as fast which give me more time to plan how my plant is not going to grow into my HPS and burn itself. I also use LST to maneuver branch tips (buds) around to get light to otherwise unreachable places.

Us newbs are like children and need to find out who we are inside. The sooner we find our niche, the sooner we can perfect our desired methods. To get to that place in a shorter period of time, we need some trial and error and lack of fear of failing. I don't know your situation, like if you "need" meds and have no other options. A situation like that, it may be imperative that you harvest ASAP. If you have other options and can play around, I'd suggest to do so, or even to get a second completely not important grow going just to experiment and learn. I have 4 clones now that I have zero intention of keeping. They were taken from a flowering plant that had finished it's stretch period. These type of clones are very hard to get to root, and b/c of that, I want to take the Pepsi challenge just to see and of course learn. I will likely gift away the survivors, but if I find no good people to donate to, I will toss them.

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Thank you Sky for that informative advice.

I rooted this clone as a tutorial for other members. At the time I thought she would make a great candidate for some experimentation into LST. I've got time and space to play around, do you think LA's methods would be good starting point? I've not read the fluxing thread. Maybe it's time to check it out.
 
La's Flux method "looks" to be a real winner, but to bank my first harvestable grow on a new style was too much in the opinions of those that advised me. I still wanted to buck against the grain and do it anyways, but I yielded to all the experience that was tlling me to let it go for now, so I did.

So you've cloned, than you have a good idea of how to top. It's not difficult at all and as long as your plant is at least 4 nodes above the cotyledons, you're safe to snip away. I can't attest to loss or gain of yield or quality as I've never done a single cola nor watched anyone's entire grow to really understand the difference.

If you have a fair amount of head room to play with, topping may not be what you want. I only have 5' of flower room, and when I deduct 1' for the HPS hood and hot zone, plus another 18" for the height of the 5 gallon bucket she's rooted in, I really only have 2 1/2 vertical feet to work with which is not much at all, so topping was pretty much needed in my situation.

Apples and oranges I guess?
 
Update

Today's pics of the the 3 foot monsters in the bud box.

I'm not too happy with bud formation on these plants. They seem a little bit behind the other girls.

The plants seem to be in superb condition, beautiful shades of green.

So I've increased the top ventilation a bit to see if I can get lights on temps down a bit from current 74F 35%RH.

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Thoughts anyone?
 
I keep taking the scissors to 'em around the lower branches.

A habit I also have, not sure if good or bad yet, but I think bad b/c of stress. Do you have top lighting too, or just side lights? What color bulbs do you use? How many days into flower are you? I think you should LST too now that I can see better. One day you can bend her to the left for a day or two, then switch to the right, then front, back etc. I'm doing this in my grow with buds to get light into harder to reach areas. It looks like you have good light penetration so I can't understand what's causing you problems except maybe pot size?
 
Hey Sky

Mono has done some extensive testing re defoliation, the plants don't appear to react badly to it. These 3 are all clones from the same mum as the others (see earlier picture post). They were in veg maybe a week longer than I wanted, hence the crazy height.

They are lit at the top with cfl's and I'm going to add some more to see if they'll respond. Color temps are 4000k on the sides and 6400k at the top. A combo that worked OK on the last plant in this box.

We're 15 days into flower now from first bud sighting.
 
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I see a lot of admired growers veg their plants into large bushes before throwing a scrog net on it and flattening it all out. My train of thought is different b/c a small space is all I have and that definitely affects my opinions. Light Addict and Stealthgrow have also had good success with defol, SG midway through flower and still finished very well.
 
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