Exceptionally High FECO Yields

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I got lost when it came to making the GABA from the rice, so can you document that when you have a chance?
 
I have not cooked up any home made GABA yet, although we are gearing up for a go at it. I found this biz below. Nano grams per mil-liter. Useless info in the basement. My friends, can you look this over for clues I may be missing. Ways to do it without what we need. Like many members my health has impacted my financial position and I am forced into frugality. LOL
@Pennywise your screen name is almost what mine should be. Pennyless. :peace:

"The willow leaves (Salix safsaf L.) were collected from the Salix farm of the Faculty of Agriculture, Cairo University, Giza, Egypt. On the day of harvest the young leaves (newly emerged) were extracted in hot water (at 10% w/v). About 10 g of fresh leaves were boiled (at 100°C) in 100 ml distilled water for 20 min, then filtered through a sterilized Miracloth and centrifuged at 15,000 g for 15 min. The Salicin concentration was about 750 ng/ml."
 
@Emilya Thought of you and @stoneotter reading this
Phytohormones and induction of plant-stress tolerance and defense genes by seed and foliar inoculation with Azospirillum brasilense cells and metabolites promote maize growth

Phytohormones and induction of plant-stress tolerance and defense genes by seed and foliar inoculation with Azospirillum brasilense cells and metabolites promote maize growth - AMB Express

Azospirillum spp. are plant-growth-promoting bacteria used worldwide as inoculants for a variety of crops. Among the beneficial mechanisms associated with Azospirillum inoculation, emphasis has been given to the biological nitrogen fixation process and to the synthesis of phytohormones. In...
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The link is clean
 
I've been building my grow up $20 a clip over and over for years. Soon, I hope to use it to launch a brick and mortar business in the CNC field, then I can dial back my grow to just MeMeds.
 
Skybound said:
I've been building my grow up $20 a clip over and over for years. Soon, I hope to use it to launch a brick and mortar business in the CNC field, then I can dial back my grow to just MeMeds.
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CNC field?
 
Maritimer said:
CNC field?
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3D printers and similar type machines, anything that moves in a computer-aided fashion while moving a tool to add or remove material to form something. FYI, if you have a printer, I made quite a few useful 420 things and shared them to my Thingiverse account, well, my 420 account, lol.

Skybound420's Thingiverse Profile
 
Plug and crank formulas. :)
PPM = grams of solute divided by grams of solution times 1,000,000.
Solute = ppm times grams of solution divided by 1,000,000.
Solution = solute divided by ppp times 1,000,000.

8 grams willow extract divided by 47 grams of pure grain alcohol times 1,ooo,ooo equals = 170,212 parts per million.

Now I can bounce some numbers from other experiments and get a better idea of concentrations. Again, thanks.
 
Straw Hat ramblings; :)
I came across a bunch of documented experiments using foliar sprays to deliver phytohormones to a variety of crops, but not cannabis. Again, we will simply extrapolate methods and protocols as they suit our needs from documented scientific studies.
For example;
“A benzyladenine based plant growth regulator (PGR) named Configure (Fine Americas, Walnut Creek, CA) was applied to 2 cultivars of Sempervivum and 1 species of Echeveria. Applications were made as a single foliar spray applied 3 weeks after potting (WAP) in concentrations of 50, 100, 200, 400 mg.l-1. The number of offsets produced by the plants were counted at 10 WAP. The number of offsets produced by the parent plants increased with the concentration of Configure”

I will note the following bits of useful info. Only a single application was used. The PGR was applied in concentrations involving mg per liter. PGR was applied after 3 weeks after planting. I then head off to the next abstract catching my eye, and do the same all again looking for any differences in methods.
 
Check out this interesting bit, :)
Brassica water extracts contain a substance known as brassinolide which is natural plant steroid [13].The brassinosteroids are included in a unique class of natural plant growth regulators having the potential to enhance yield of a number of agronomic crops. They were originally discovered simultaneously in Japan and America, in "Isunoki," which is an evergreen tree and in pollen of canola (Brassica napus L.) [14]. Brassinolides are natural plant hormones that promote vegetative growth, enhance yields of grain crops as well as fruit crops while increase the plant potential to withstand drought and cold weather more effectively and efficiently

Brassica Water Extract Preparation Protocol:
"Allelopathic water extract of brassica was prepared by ollowing the method of Cheema and Khaliq [22]. Herbage (stem and leaves) of brassica crop were harvested at maturity; dried for a couple of days under shade and then chopped into 2 cm pieces with the help of electric fodder cutter. This chopped material was soaked in water in a ratio of 1:10 (w/v) for 24 hours. This soaked material was filtered by passing through sieves. The filtrates were boiled at 100°C for reducing the volume by 20 times. The concentrated water extract was stored at room temperature for future use." In my fridge I can see all kinds of veggie stock that normally would be eaten or headed to the compost pile out back, will now be perhaps more useful.

"Bioassay for Moringa Leaf Juice Preparation: Moringa leaf extract (MLE) was prepared by collecting young and disease free leaves from moringa tree. Theses leaves were washed and then frozen for two days in refrigerator at 4°C. Leaves were grinded in a manual juicer to extract the leaf juice. The juice was collected and filtered by passing through a muslin cloth to remove all the green matter. After that the extract was stored at room temperature. All foliar sprays were applied with the help of knap sack sprayer after calibration" My planned collection of ABA rich leaves from a Sycamore tree doesn't sound so silly anymore.
WIKI: There is some disagreement among botanists on the classification and status of Brassica species and subspecies. The following is an abbreviated list, with an emphasis on economically important species.
B. balearica: Mallorca cabbage
B. carinata: Abyssinian mustard or Abyssinian cabbage, used to produce biodiesel
B. elongata: elongated mustard
B. fruticulosa: Mediterranean cabbage
B. hilarionis: St Hilarion cabbage
B. juncea: Indian mustard, brown and leaf mustards, Sarepta mustard
B. napus: rapeseed, canola, rutabaga, Siberian kale (swede, swede turnip, Swedish turnip)
B. narinosa: broadbeaked mustard
B. nigra: black mustard
B. oleracea: kale, cabbage, collard greens, broccoli, cauliflower, kai-lan, Brussels sprouts, kohlrabi
B. perviridis: tender green, mustard spinach
B. rapa (syn. B. campestris): Chinese cabbage, turnip, rapini, komatsuna
B. rupestris: brown mustard
B. tournefortii: Asian mustard
Grocery list for considerations. Cool Beans.
 
Got to thinking maybe we want to concoct a batch of willow extract similar to the aforementioned Brassica Water Extract Preparation Protocol: This would be a separate elicitor foliar spray apart from our previously prepared willow extract were we used grain alcohol to extract the phytohormones. Grain alcohol is rough stuff, and we Hobbits prefer to avoid un gentle approaches.
edit; just threw a quarter pound of fresh willow in the freezer :)
 
I finally figured out how to put up links to a separate thread I am using as a notepad for straw hat stuff. I want this threads primary focus to remain actually stressing some of these young ladies in a few weeks. That is the easiest way I know to trigger the enhanced production.
We do hope to change the world still. Just keeping those notes elsewhere.

Exceptionally High Feco Yeilds: Straw Hat Notes

This we hope will help clean up our primary thread. Need better organization.
www.420magazine.com

check it out when you get a minute.
 
@Skybound I notice you do the high brix hydroponics. What is your position if I may ask, after purchasing whatever you needed and running with the method thru several grows is the whole process worth it to you? Please tell me about high brix including setup costs, and why you do it.
 
Maritimer said:
@Skybound I notice you do the high brix hydroponics. What is your position if I may ask, after purchasing whatever you needed and running with the method thru several grows is the whole process worth it to you? Please tell me about high brix including setup costs, and why you do it.
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I've been meaning to ditch that link from my signature. After my best efforts and research on the topic, I conclude that high brix in hydroponics is not practical nor possible. To achieve max brix, the plant needs to have reduced water content which is not at all conducive to hydro. I was in search of the best nutrient regimen in general, and when I got to reading about high brix, I was taken aback by how healthy the brix plants are which was right in line with what I wanted to do in hydro, so I modified my feed regimen to encapsulate the effects of the elemental content that was in the brix kit. My grief was in not recognizing that Doc set his kit up to maximize the presence of calcium, while the rest of the elements were sort of teased in with drenches and sprays, but all while doing so, the brix plants were only being watered every couple of days and allowed to thoroughly lap out the water and nutes from the soil while also having their roots regularly cleaned of exudates from soil microbes.

So I tried to wrangle in my cation balance without giving respect to the fact that in rock wool, my CEC is more or less zero which will have an anionic effect which then complicates not only what I was trying to do, but the flow of calcium. If you ever get to studying up on nutes, you'll quickly learn that calcium is the most challenged element in the feed and there are about 5 different things that can restrict it's uptake or movement inside the plant.

So yeah, I was tripping myself while trying to run faster and the end result is that my yields went way down and so did my quality. I've since given up on hydro formulations and am mixing my nutes to Megacrop's newest formulation and am using that for another 2 months, then it's soil for me there onward. I needed to shed weight per plant as I'll be blooming 9 instead of just 3, so I had to ditch hydro. Now being in soil, I can revisit trying to grow some high brix weed, but that goal is once again secondary to my needs.
 
Skybound said:
I've been meaning to ditch that link from my signature. After my best efforts and research on the topic, I conclude that high brix in hydroponics is not practical nor possible. To achieve max brix, the plant needs to have reduced water content which is not at all conducive to hydro. I was in search of the best nutrient regimen in general, and when I got to reading about high brix, I was taken aback by how healthy the brix plants are which was right in line with what I wanted to do in hydro, so I modified my feed regimen to encapsulate the effects of the elemental content that was in the brix kit. My grief was in not recognizing that Doc set his kit up to maximize the presence of calcium, while the rest of the elements were sort of teased in with drenches and sprays, but all while doing so, the brix plants were only being watered every couple of days and allowed to thoroughly lap out the water and nutes from the soil while also having their roots regularly cleaned of exudates from soil microbes.

So I tried to wrangle in my cation balance without giving respect to the fact that in rock wool, my CEC is more or less zero which will have an anionic effect which then complicates not only what I was trying to do, but the flow of calcium. If you ever get to studying up on nutes, you'll quickly learn that calcium is the most challenged element in the feed and there are about 5 different things that can restrict it's uptake or movement inside the plant.

So yeah, I was tripping myself while trying to run faster and the end result is that my yields went way down and so did my quality. I've since given up on hydro formulations and am mixing my nutes to Megacrop's newest formulation and am using that for another 2 months, then it's soil for me there onward. I needed to shed weight per plant as I'll be blooming 9 instead of just 3, so I had to ditch hydro. Now being in soil, I can revisit trying to grow some high brix weed, but that goal is once again secondary to my needs.
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Thanks Bro,
Your straight forward honesty is exemplary.
Your knowledge is deeper than mine, sorry but that's not saying much.
You should stay on and work with us on this stuff.
Your not gonna beat our pay. :love:

Looking at digital microscopes, drooling.
 
Pulled some pics of main flowerbed on day 25.
Flower Day #25

Flower Day #25

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Northern Lights, Ocean Grown Girl Scout Cookies, Cali Orange
The 300 Watt in background is...

Flower Day #25

Flower Day #25

  • Media owner Maritimer
  • Date added
Northern Lights, Ocean Grown Girl Scout Cookies, Cali Orange
Clones on shelf sunning w/mom/
 
Thanks bro, just thought of you as I put up the pics. Wish I was sure who was who in this grow. The plant in upper right corner of scrog is most hearty, plant on lower left eats the most. LOL IDK
 
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