Emmie's Berry D'licious 2019 True Living Organic: No AACT, SCROG, COB, SuperSoil Production Grow & Seed Run

So far so good :)

I sent some to a contributor for Boveda (Dianna Donelly) and she reported an even greater decrease ~60%. There's also @Pbass whose plants seemed to be happy at that range, too, though in practice he fed them less than 50% as well since it's was 50% strength feed on top of watering only 3 times in two months. He went ahead and increased from there.

Will be cool to see more results as they come out! I'm really excited to see Emilya's results, too!
 
Veg, Day 33
You know that point about 5 weeks in where you start to second guess yourself, and seeing no pistils you start thinking OMFG, 5 males!! I am there. Grrrr. No pistils yet. Starting to wonder if there is even one female here.
Well, we shall see. The Vulx arrives tomorrow and I am ready to build the 10 gallon containers as soon as we need them. I am anxious to try out the Vulx and even if I only end up with one female at this point I am not going to freak... Vulx will be used so I can start getting a feel of how it works, and then I am going to take some clones and will move them into flower, experimenting with Vulx the whole way. One way or another, I am going to get some production out of these 7 seeds... unless of course I end up with all males. At least pollen won't be a problem. Grrrr again.

Still trying to tease out some roots. The two biggest plants have impressive looking trunks at this point and the only one still obviously littler is M&M, again the runt of the bunch. Being fairly light this morning, those that needed it just got watered 1/3, around the edges.

An interesting observation is that early on I saw a magnesium deficiency starting up and to save the first leaves I gave calmag twice. I have not given it again, and there are no nutrition problems at all with these plants right now. My theory is that the RealGrower's Recharge has now brought in enough microlife to supply all of the needs of the plant and I no longer need to supplement to fill in the gaps. These plants right now are insanely healthy, despite the early cannibalizing of the first leaves on two of the plants. The slower growers never had the problem... the Recharge had already caught up.

The plants are all obviously enjoying the light at this point with no leaf curling or ridging being seen as a result of the added LUX. Soooooo... I just turned it up some more. 28,000 LUX measured at the top of the canopy. Come on pistils!
 
Hey Emmy! Been 2 weeks since i popped in and your plants have grown loads. Looking great in there, and i'm looking forward to seeing your results with Vulx product. :high-five:
 
I hadn't seen this journal yet @Emilya ! I'm jumping in late but looking forward to seeing some females form up for you soon! Blessings!
Hi Emilia, I'm sure you will have a couple of ladies out of the five, fingers crossed.
Hey Emmy! Been 2 weeks since i popped in and your plants have grown loads. Looking great in there, and i'm looking forward to seeing your results with Vulx product. :high-five:
Thanks everyone! I do have some good news... I just spotted my first pistil... an actual real live pistil with a V... on Red, right where it was predicted to be. She is a beautiful plant and this is going to be a pleasure to work with her. It turns out that this variety is overly aggressive when it comes to forming new nodes. In several places, there were the two preflowers in each side of the notch, right where you would expect them, and then this thing popped out perpendicular, where a male part would often show up. It was on a stalk, so I assumed that it indeed was a male part. I even took some pictures of this in a previous message... but to my surprise, instead of growing more and more balls on a stick... in several spots these have turned out to be extra preflowers. Until it happens, I really can not tell males from females at this point... and I thought I was good at this.
But any rate, thank you for the good thoughts and crossed fingers... we do indeed have a female spotted, and just in time too, because at the moment I seem to be watering these big ones once a day. It is time to uppot.
So yes, they have gotten huge and are loving the added LUX. They are all starting to catch up with each other now... not a lot of obvious growth but I keep topping each growth tip as it reaches the canopy and they just keep getting wider and bigger. The trunk size is always instructive when it comes to sizing up the roots, and even M&M has gotten with the program and in just a couple of days has swollen her trunk to nearly twice the size it was just a few days ago. So far no complaints from the roots about restriction because the GeoPots are doing their job, but I can't keep up this watering rate if I have to leave town for business... I need to get into the 10g pots asap. To that end, the Vulx showed up at my Dad's work today and I will have it here in a couple of hours. I am now ready to build my containers, and will start mixing the Vulx in to the soil I am going to use in the next few days.

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@SQl2kGuy You know it’s perfect (perfect for me ) when you get about 10% Amber trichomes, just make sure you check the buds not the leaves when your judging when to take it down, that’s one thing I made a mistake on. The leaves were 10% Amber but my buds still had 10% clear ones still , but that is a VERY nice microscope

I made that mistake too ... looking at the leaves.

Interesting ... it sounds like the leaves lead the calyxes in terms of trichome ripening ... and if we go by the leaves, then we are harvesting too early ...
 
Veg, Day 31

Well, here we are a month into veg and I am very happy what has happened here, other than the 3 males and 2 females thing. So far no pistils showing on the girls, but the fact that there are no balls yet still convinces me that these are girls. Not a lot visually going on except the plants keep getting taller and wider, and I keep topping nodes that rise to the top to take dominance, still attempting to get node 1 all the way up to the top. Red is still quite a ways ahead of M&M, probably nearly a week in development.
Water use on the top two is holding steady at about 2 days, telling me that we still have some work to do on the roots. As soon as I confirm pistils on these two females, I will be transplanting them to the 10 gallon containers, taking down the veg table and setting them on the floor of the tent. The next big project will be assembling the SCROG screen and getting it attached to the 4 corners of the tent and then we will settle in for another month of veg under the screen. I will need to change the fan situation in the tent for SCROG, and am looking for some clip on fans, either to the light assembly or a couple of the corner supports of the tent.
Lastly, the past 3 days I have been running the lights harder than ever before, throwing 22K LUX on the top of the canopy, and the leaves are taking it. Timber was definitely on to something when they advised taking the reflectors off of these COBS during veg, and truthfully, I am enjoying this new experience of having too much light in my tent... that has never been a problem before!

Here is a picture of Red, already with enough nodes to make her an 8oz plant.

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Very, very nice!

Big Red!!! Hmmm ... that's a lot of interesting Big Red pics on Google ... but since we both have dogs I'm going with this mascot ... unless you like the gum ... or the soda ... or the margarita ... or ... lol

Is Big Red eligible for the Chemdog grow? :)

 
Just saw this - we are gonna stop the 50% less water. Depends on how you water it! Definitely "less" though.

As for nutrients, we are covering that in a new case study, but I don't expect to see any different. Still recommend starting at 50% less and adjusting based on what you see. First grow always requires dialing in the mix. Could take a couple feedings to get it just right.

Thanks @Vulx ...

I'm looking at this on your web site ... it looks promising ... and if I can I'll get some from Amazon to try.
 
Veg, Day 33
You know that point about 5 weeks in where you start to second guess yourself, and seeing no pistils you start thinking OMFG, 5 males!! I am there. Grrrr. No pistils yet. Starting to wonder if there is even one female here.
Well, we shall see. The Vulx arrives tomorrow and I am ready to build the 10 gallon containers as soon as we need them. I am anxious to try out the Vulx and even if I only end up with one female at this point I am not going to freak... Vulx will be used so I can start getting a feel of how it works, and then I am going to take some clones and will move them into flower, experimenting with Vulx the whole way. One way or another, I am going to get some production out of these 7 seeds... unless of course I end up with all males. At least pollen won't be a problem. Grrrr again.

Still trying to tease out some roots. The two biggest plants have impressive looking trunks at this point and the only one still obviously littler is M&M, again the runt of the bunch. Being fairly light this morning, those that needed it just got watered 1/3, around the edges.

An interesting observation is that early on I saw a magnesium deficiency starting up and to save the first leaves I gave calmag twice. I have not given it again, and there are no nutrition problems at all with these plants right now. My theory is that the RealGrower's Recharge has now brought in enough microlife to supply all of the needs of the plant and I no longer need to supplement to fill in the gaps. These plants right now are insanely healthy, despite the early cannibalizing of the first leaves on two of the plants. The slower growers never had the problem... the Recharge had already caught up.

The plants are all obviously enjoying the light at this point with no leaf curling or ridging being seen as a result of the added LUX. Soooooo... I just turned it up some more. 28,000 LUX measured at the top of the canopy. Come on pistils!

Grrrr! C'mon Pistels!!!

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That's a real drag @Emilya !!!

 
Thanks @Vulx ...

I'm looking at this on your web site ... it looks promising ... and if I can I'll get some from Amazon to try.

Much appreciated! If you check out the Vulx sponsor intro thread, at the end I linked some ongoing grows you can check out.

Feel free to DM me with any questions. If you send a message with pot size, and what soil substrate you use I can give some general recommendations as well.
 
Very, very nice!

Big Red!!! Hmmm ... that's a lot of interesting Big Red pics on Google ... but since we both have dogs I'm going with this mascot ... unless you like the gum ... or the soda ... or the margarita ... or ... lol

Is Big Red eligible for the Chemdog grow? :)
Well, she has come Chemdog 91 way back in her lineage, so I don't think they would kick me out... but she is only about 1/4 that. :)
 
Veg, Day 36
Well, I haven't been updating daily the last few days because really, nothing exciting was happening. It turns out that Red was early... we have all known girls like that, and she seems to have beaten this variety's average time to show sex. Tonight, finally I saw a clear and definite male part. Big male parts, two of them x 2. There is no mistaking this for a third set of leaves, as this strain tends to do. Our first male has revealed himself and from now on, B will be known as Bob. In less than a week he is going to start being dangerous and he is now on a watch list. I will soon move him to my little love tent, so he can do what he must do.

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Usually the males will show first but after a careful examination while watering tonight, I can spot no similar growth appearing on either of the two yet unidentified plants, T and M&M. I see indications that these are indeed two more females, especially since they are still holding out, but still, no pistils. I can now see several sets of pistils on Red, and I suspect that things are working out perfectly, and that we are going to end up with 1 male and 3 large females.

Let me show off Red, becoming a very large female. Please keep in mind we are just over a month in at this point, and still in a 1 gallon container.
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So here is my dilemma. I am in a 2x4 tent. A SCROG is a great way to maximize light at a certain height, but I really don't believe at this point that these COB lights are going to have any problem penetrating deep down into the canopy of a vertical grow, so it is not like a SCROG is necessary, like early on when I bloomed under T5HO. Second point is that even if I culled one of three females, just two of these monster girls would populate a 2x4 screen in about 2 seconds... its not like I would get extra yield out of going horizontal.
So, it is all about the girls. If there ends up just being one, I will get the kid at Lowe's to make me a custom screen and getting that going will be the project of the week. With even two, I am better off going vertical and with three there is no question... there just isn't room in the tent to expand out a whole lot more.

Because of this, we wait. Red needs to be cleaned up a bit, and I am going to take some cuttings because a friend needs some clones. Very soon we will be building a control container without Vulx and a test container with Vulx, both with Andesite Mineral Complex, and another control container without either product, if we have 3. I hope for a very interesting test.
As soon as sex is determined the primary goal will become transplanting into the final containers and getting a look at these roots.
 
I agree with your thoughts on your "dilemma"...Good dilemma to have. :cheesygrinsmiley:
In that situation all try to focus on is to even out the elevation and bring up as many tops as I can and let em rip as I rain down the power of the sun.
 
Veg, Day 38
I have more good news.... M&M has finally come out of the closet and admitted with her first pistils, that she is female. The only undeclared one at the moment is T, our biggest, baddest fastest grower in the tent. I said all along that she looked female... and still she holds out like a true lady, waiting for just the right moment.
That is 1 male, 2 females and one undetermined. SCROG is out, Vulx side by side is on, and in a matter of days we should see pistils on T. They all got a round of RealGrower's Recharge, 1 tsp/gal, a double rate. As soon as you mix this stuff it looks and smells like a good strong 2 day AACT, without any of the mess, fuss or time.
 
Veg, Day 39
I have a day trip today to one of our other offices, so I will be away from the computer most of the day. I have just finished watering the room and checking T for any sign of sex... still convinced it is a girl, but so far no pistils. I will try to catch up with everyone as fast as I can upon my return. Have a great day everyone!
 
Veg, Day 40
I can't find it now, but this morning I had a chance to sit with the plants for a while since I had the day off after a travel day, and I did spot the first emerging pistil (95% sure) on T. All the plants are on a 24 hour wet/dry cycle now, and by noon I was greeted with this:
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I hate it when they yell at me like that, so I took a leap of faith on T, and I up-potted the tribe to 10 gallon GeoPots

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Also, Bob was a bad boy overnight, and I found a dropped male flower with its associated mess all over a leaf. As a result, he was summarily banished to the little 2x2.5 Gorilla love tent and put on 12/12 with his very own reddish LED. He didn't do a lot of damage since there are not a whole lot of pistils out at the moment, but I won't freak if in the end I see a seed or two in places I have not pollinated. I knew better, and should have moved him yesterday... oops. I will spray everyone tonight with a lacto/silicate foliar so as to kill any pollen that might be laying around.
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So the containers were built so as to do 2 side by side experiments. First, the Andesite:
Mineral Complex returns the essential minerals and trace elements from volcanic rock dust to your soil in a slow, natural release. Its broad spectrum of mineral content improves plant production and nutrient/water uptake while reducing the effects of environmental stress factors (drought, pests, diseases, etc.) on plant health.

M&M and Red have Andesite in their soil. T does not have Andesite. My eventual goal with this is to be able to grow a one hit Hawaiian super strain in my containers.

Next, the Vulx. The first task was to weigh my soil to see how much Vulx to add. My supersoil is a fairly heavy soil as far as potting soils go. This rich and very active soil totally ate up Nan, who was chopped up and added back to that soil not even 3 weeks ago. This amazing soil weighed in at 3.8 lbs per gallon. Since this was above the minimum range and barely in the upper range for mixing Vulx, I reverted to the 5% rule and I added 87g / gallon and mixed it in very well. Here is the pile of Vulx on top of the 3 1/2 gallons of supersoil that went in the bottom third of my container. I mixed it by hand, and it definitely changed the "feel" of that soil... it is going to be interesting to see what happens.

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Our smallest female, M&M has Vulx. Red and Tara do not.

The containers were built via my usual method. There is a thin layer of composted steer manure at the bottom, followed by the supersoil, amended as per the notes above. On top of the supersoil I put a generous helping of Great White Myco powder, and the 1gal rootball was sat on top. Two gallons of FFOF/ROOTS101 mix were added, and then another sprinkling of Great White along with 1 tbl of 5-5-5 general purpose. One more gallon of base soil, and then a thin layer of earthworm castings. Another gallon of base soil, and then a thin sprinkling of blood meal, and another gallon of base soil. Then at 3 points near the outer edge I drilled a hole and using a funnel I poured in a vertical spike of raw flowering nutrients. I have this premixed and in a bin for this purpose, and I don't have it in front of me right now what all is in it, but it has been fully documented in previous journals.
Since the base soil has been dry and inactive for quite a while, watering was done with Realgrower's Recharge at the highest rate, and each plant easily took 1 gallon of this amazing tea.

The tent was cleaned out, the veg table removed and the plants were installed on the floor. The light has been raised to the height it will need to be after stretch, and the power has been turned up to 175w per side whereas I am measuring 25,000 LUX across the canopy.

Lastly, I pruned a little bit on M&M, further widening the canopy. Trunk size is already very impressive, and I can only imagine the trees that are going to be produced in these 10 gallon containers. We are looking at at least the next 2 weeks in veg, settling into these new containers, and we will reevaluate at that point, but I am confident the tent will be full by then. The no vacancy sign is lit... we are at full capacity.

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@fanleaf , I was looking for LUX to PAR conversion tables and I found a multiplier for the CREE 3590 3000k cobs - it is 0.014953846153846
Multiplying this by the last LUX reading of 25,000 lux, my PAR should be close to 374.

According to this chart:

PAR values
cuttings 60-90 umoles-
veg -300-425 u moles
flowering 700- 1,200 umoles

I am right where I want to be. I already knew that... but, it is nice that the numbers back me up.
 
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