Emmie's 6 Plant, True Living Organic, LED Grow Journal

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It looks like our grows are nearly at the same stage, and I’m also using supersoil (Amazon, Nature’s Living) on 2 of the plants. It’ll be fun to see them all mature together. I’m using Gen Organic’s Go Box on the other 2 and wonder how they’ll compare to the supersoil. At the very least I don’t have to worry if i’ve Over/Under fed with SS! Though I think per $ the box goes farther?
 
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It looks like our grows are nearly at the same stage, and I’m also using supersoil (Amazon, Nature’s Living) on 2 of the plants. It’ll be fun to see them all mature together. I’m using Gen Organic’s Go Box on the other 2 and wonder how they’ll compare to the supersoil. At the very least I don’t have to worry if i’ve Over/Under fed with SS! Though I think per $ the box goes farther?
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Very good! Let's definitely compare as we are going!
 
... I just realised that was my first post in here and didn’t really say hi properly! I’ve been subbed and lurking here for months so I feel familiar already ;) So, hey emmie! :ciao: I’m joining in the ride...

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Amy Gardner said:
... I just realised that was my first post in here and didn’t really say hi properly! I’ve been subbed and lurking here for months so I feel familiar already ;) So, hey emmie! :ciao: I’m joining in the ride...

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Hi Amy! I thought you were in here somewhere... could have sworn I heard some good music coming out of one corner!
 
We are in day 6 of the flip now and pretty much all of the bud sites are now showing pistils. The amount of pistils in the buds examined on Monday night have at least doubled on each bud. Since there is some conflict about the term budset, I am going to defer to Doc and call this stage, bud start. At some point I have to determine day 1 of flower, and I see no reason not to call tomorrow Day 1, which will be the 7th day of the flip.
This was an extremely rapid flip and can not be explained across 6 completely different strains other than by considering that the strong LED light has something to do with it. I still am seeing no evidence to believe that these cheap lights are in any way inferior. Opinions may still change now that we get to see them in bloom, where with an uneven canopy it is going to be important how much penetration power they actually have.
After talking to my professor friend about Doc's secret cationic drench we have concluded that I am not on the right track with my thoughts that the type of drench I am planning for the next watering is anything like what Doc is doing. Looking at the surprisingly small doses of Doc's formulas which include the surprise compound of peroxynitrate, NO4 in the compilation, we have concluded that we are in awe of Doc's genius in finding an incredibly powerful switch in the plant-soil relationship. I promptly ordered some drench and tea to start using in a week or so.
I tried some leftover drench that a friend gave me a couple of years ago on one plant in my tent and I did see an impressive difference. This test will be to confirm that the effect of the cationic drench is a thing. The high calcium/silicate/potassium drench I will be giving them on this next watering may be beneficial too, as it has seemed to be in the past. I just hope the plants love all this mad scientist stuff we are doing to them here.
 
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We are in day 6 of the flip now and pretty much all of the bud sites are now showing pistils. The amount of pistils in the buds examined on Monday night have at least doubled on each bud. Since there is some conflict about the term budset, I am going to defer to Doc and call this stage, bud start. At some point I have to determine day 1 of flower, and I see no reason not to call tomorrow Day 1, which will be the 7th day of the flip.
This was an extremely rapid flip and can not be explained across 6 completely different strains other than by considering that the strong LED light has something to do with it. I still am seeing no evidence to believe that these cheap lights are in any way inferior. Opinions may still change now that we get to see them in bloom, where with an uneven canopy it is going to be important how much penetration power they actually have.
After talking to my professor friend about Doc's secret cationic drench we have concluded that I am not on the right track with my thoughts that the type of drench I am planning for the next watering is anything like what Doc is doing. Looking at the surprisingly small doses of Doc's formulas which include the surprise compound of peroxynitrate, NO4 in the compilation, we have concluded that we are in awe of Doc's genius in finding an incredibly powerful switch in the plant-soil relationship. I promptly ordered some drench and tea to start using in a week or so.
I tried some leftover drench that a friend gave me a couple of years ago on one plant in my tent and I did see an impressive difference. This test will be to confirm that the effect of the cationic drench is a thing. The high calcium/silicate/potassium drench I will be giving them on this next watering may be beneficial too, as it has seemed to be in the past. I just hope the plants love all this mad scientist stuff we are doing to them here.
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I strongly agree that LED flips the plant from grow to flower quicker. It has always seemed that way to me too. Heck, I just flipped a batch of 4 plants to flower on the 11th and you should see the bud sites already. I will even post a pic of the bud sites if okay with you and you would like to see? They have been flipped for 12 days.
 
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I strongly agree that LED flips the plant from grow to flower quicker. It has always seemed that way to me too. Heck, I just flipped a batch of 4 plants to flower on the 11th and you should see the bud sites already. I will even post a pic of the bud sites if okay with you and you would like to see? They have been flipped for 12 days.
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Go ahead... I am interested in seeing yours. This is even faster than what happens under HID using the extra period of darkness in the beginning.
 
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Go ahead... I am interested in seeing yours. This is even faster than what happens under HID using the extra period of darkness in the beginning.
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Just went down and took a few for you.
Flipped on 1-11 so the 12th would be the 1st day of 12/12 today is mid lights on on the 12th day.
 

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Heres a shot of my homemade LED's in that grow area.
 

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Just added 1 more pic to the 1st set so you can see at 12 days in theres already trichome development.
 
Emilya said:
holy crow! That is impressive! The superpanel is definitely doing its job!
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Haha, Thanks. That's the mini-superpanel. Only 25 chips on this one. The big panel has 42;). I think you will be very happy with your LED grow. As far as light penetration though I would just try to run them a little closer then they recommend. I really believe in my cob light panels the green it has in the Spectrum really helps with penetration. That's my belief anyways. LOL
 
@Emilya. I just read your thread on making Cal Mag. Awesome! As I was scrolling through and seen your picture at the desk with the radio turned on a 2m frequency. Are you an amateur radio operator? I just caught my eye because I am a general class operator.
 
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@Emilya. I just read your thread on making Cal Mag. Awesome! As I was scrolling through and seen your picture at the desk with the radio turned on a 2m frequency. Are you an amateur radio operator? I just caught my eye because I am a general class operator.
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Good catch... yes, I have held an Amateur Extra since I was a kid. Dad is a lifelong ham too. My radio room is next door to my grow room!
 
Emilya said:
Good catch... yes, I have held an Amateur Extra since I was a kid. Dad is a lifelong ham too. My radio room is next door to my grow room!
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Love it! Active in ARES and RACES too. Between my radio room and growing I need a bigger house lol. Okay well that's enough of that, I don't want to clog up your thread with unrelated stuff but had to ask.
 
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so, what is your watts/sq foot with that setup? I am feeling good sitting at around 75... you have to be much higher.
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Mine are adjustable. That's a small 5x5 room and buy turning the dials to adjust power and light spectrum I can adjust that room anywhere from 30 total watts to just over 1980w. Heres my homemade control panel for them. Each red knob controls 1 row of the 3000k chips and each blue knob controls 1 row of 5000k chips. Right now the lights are still raised up high and the plants are in the middle of stretch mode so I have em cranked up a bit. Actual wattage for each row is the bottom left number on each meter if it's hard to see. So right now that puts me at 1031 actual watts for 41.2 watts per square foot. May not sound like a bunch but my apogee meter shows average 1100 par at the tops with lights 24-28 inches away. I can go past 80w per sq foot but never needed. As the plants get taller I will turn em down a bit to keep par at the tops at about 1100-1200 as long as bottoms still get 800.
 

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