Hey hey now!
Just kidding.
Better late than never. I'm just going through your journal Cultivator. I'm looking forward to this!
DWC - Drip Irrigation Scrog 2400W
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Hey hey now!
Just kidding.
Better late than never. I'm just going through your journal Cultivator. I'm looking forward to this!
Hey Cultivator, your grows are looking great.
I hope you don't mind, but I thought I'd throw out something. There was mention of Voodoo Juice earlier in the thread. Now I used VooDoo juice through 2-3 grows and loved it. I was talking to Cory of BPN a while back and we went on to some discussion about roots and such. To keep it simple, he suggested I look for a nutrient supplement that had lots of Glomus (like 5-8 types or something) in it and use it from early on in veg through 1st week of flower. I found Fox Farms Bush Doctor Microbe Brew. It costs tons less than Voodoo juice (which doesnt have glomus) and mixes at 5ml per gal. I've used this now through 2 grows and I'm really happy. Roots get those skeletal branches to them that we want. Just like Voodoo Juice but at a fraction of the cost.
I love RDWC, it's so simple. Sure, in the learning curve we may have 20-200 gal leaks and floods through the house, but hey if we didn't it would be too boring amiright?
I've got about 8 x 5gal buckets that are going to the trash because of learning curve changes. Things like 3/4" grommet-hose type recirc that's too slow (but worked fine), to making 1.5" pvc uniseal buckets that had sealing epoxy added before installing pvc and thus refused to expand allowing pvc installation. But with each screw up comes a lesson learned and an improvement to my methods.
Today I could build a 8 bucket RDWC with 1.5" high flow pvc, pump, chiller, air stones, for under $400 and the biggest cost would be $200+ for the chiller. Purchase a similar system pre made and you would spend $1200 and wouldn't even have a chiller!
I look forward to more awesome stuff from your methods for me to apply.
I hope you don't mind, but I thought I'd throw out something. There was mention of Voodoo Juice earlier in the thread. Now I used VooDoo juice through 2-3 grows and loved it. I was talking to Cory of BPN a while back and we went on to some discussion about roots and such. To keep it simple, he suggested I look for a nutrient supplement that had lots of Glomus (like 5-8 types or something) in it and use it from early on in veg through 1st week of flower. I found Fox Farms Bush Doctor Microbe Brew. It costs tons less than Voodoo juice (which doesnt have glomus) and mixes at 5ml per gal. I've used this now through 2 grows and I'm really happy. Roots get those skeletal branches to them that we want. Just like Voodoo Juice but at a fraction of the cost.
I love RDWC, it's so simple. Sure, in the learning curve we may have 20-200 gal leaks and floods through the house, but hey if we didn't it would be too boring amiright?
I've got about 8 x 5gal buckets that are going to the trash because of learning curve changes. Things like 3/4" grommet-hose type recirc that's too slow (but worked fine), to making 1.5" pvc uniseal buckets that had sealing epoxy added before installing pvc and thus refused to expand allowing pvc installation. But with each screw up comes a lesson learned and an improvement to my methods.
Today I could build a 8 bucket RDWC with 1.5" high flow pvc, pump, chiller, air stones, for under $400 and the biggest cost would be $200+ for the chiller. Purchase a similar system pre made and you would spend $1200 and wouldn't even have a chiller!
I look forward to more awesome stuff from your methods for me to apply.
northener
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Home made systems are a must for anyone with any mechanical skills at all. Shur there will be screw ups as bass man explained but its always cheaper, you get exactly what you want and you learn so much every time. As well to make the most of the space available sometimes making a system is the only way.
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Hi Bass welcome to my journal.
I'll look into that microbe brew. Ive been hesitant on using diff items as ive found a mix that works for me but since u grow in dwc and ive seen it, i'll check it out. I often get advice to try things off people who havent even tried it themselves which i find a little insulting. I must say i'm not great at DIY, i wish i was as i spend fortunes on setups. i know they are simple to build but u havent seen me trying to use a drill.
I wont be scrogging and i'll be doing some defoliation but not quite as heavy as urs. Im a little behind ur grow but be good to get a comparison of yields with the diff set ups. Im sure we can both pick each others heads for ideas.
I'll look into that microbe brew. Ive been hesitant on using diff items as ive found a mix that works for me but since u grow in dwc and ive seen it, i'll check it out. I often get advice to try things off people who havent even tried it themselves which i find a little insulting. I must say i'm not great at DIY, i wish i was as i spend fortunes on setups. i know they are simple to build but u havent seen me trying to use a drill.
I wont be scrogging and i'll be doing some defoliation but not quite as heavy as urs. Im a little behind ur grow but be good to get a comparison of yields with the diff set ups. Im sure we can both pick each others heads for ideas.
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Hi all.
So the dwc has been on 12/12 for 4 days and are looking great. very bushy but i'll wait til day 21 until i defoliate. Let the plant put its energy into getting ready for flower now and any stress will affect that down the line.
The flood and drain is finally properly repaired and i'll get update pics up soon. The plants look a little worse for wear as they've had alot of stress but they should start pulling themselves around before long.
So the dwc has been on 12/12 for 4 days and are looking great. very bushy but i'll wait til day 21 until i defoliate. Let the plant put its energy into getting ready for flower now and any stress will affect that down the line.
The flood and drain is finally properly repaired and i'll get update pics up soon. The plants look a little worse for wear as they've had alot of stress but they should start pulling themselves around before long.
miwa
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Good set-up..i started a lot of water grows but never completed one..i did learn how to transplant from soil to water and water to soil...whats the longest veg time have you did in water ??...i read where you always veg..a short time...the way roots grow in water i don't think i could veg 2-3 months in a 5 gal...i guess i could always trim the roots..whats your views on grafting ??..you have a 2 year Mother..ever think about grafting different strains on her ???..my winter project...and i notice your black containers..i painted mine white..that kept temps down...you/re doing great...just a thought...good grow...
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I only veg for like 2 weeks. 4 max. I let my clones get thick roots on in the aero cloner then transplant. The plants above are about 3 weeks old, maybe a touch over, i cant remember. u really dont need long veg times in dwc. So long as the roots are devolped the growth up top will be explosive. The longest i have vegged is around 4 weeks in 21litre bucket and that was fine. Obviously the longer u veg the bigger the bucket needed, but so long as u are using cuttings from a mature mother u shouldnt need to veg long at all.
To me transplanting from soil to water isnt something i'd bother doing unless it was absolutely necessaty. I do aeroclones for soil that work perfectly well but take just a tad longer to settle in.
As for grafting, thats not something ive ever looked into and know very little about. I grow my mothers from seed and select the best ones and then keep them going until i feel like a change.
I usually wrap buckets in white mylar but the temps havent been an issue in this grow so i havent bothered. They are always between 68-70, its a touch on the warm side but the guardian and cannazyme allow it to thrive in that range.
To me transplanting from soil to water isnt something i'd bother doing unless it was absolutely necessaty. I do aeroclones for soil that work perfectly well but take just a tad longer to settle in.
As for grafting, thats not something ive ever looked into and know very little about. I grow my mothers from seed and select the best ones and then keep them going until i feel like a change.
I usually wrap buckets in white mylar but the temps havent been an issue in this grow so i havent bothered. They are always between 68-70, its a touch on the warm side but the guardian and cannazyme allow it to thrive in that range.
Looking very good C. What are you planning on doing to keep the buds up on those? Seems like they will grow a heavy yield.
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hi whizz
i'll just string them up. Was going to scrog initially but i ended up not having time to set a screen up, then once it was away i couldnt be bothered to do it lol. They'll be fine. The silica i give will help them hold there weight a little better.
i'll just string them up. Was going to scrog initially but i ended up not having time to set a screen up, then once it was away i couldnt be bothered to do it lol. They'll be fine. The silica i give will help them hold there weight a little better.
miwa
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Yep...guardian and cannazyme is on my to buy list..i was wondering why my plants roots were light brown and some white...it was my temp...
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they really work mate. guardian is fantastic at allowing higher res temps, really i think its fantastic. but combined the 2 do a great job.
TG40
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Hey cultivator,
One of my plants started to hermie. I seperate e her crime the others and put her in the dark for 48 hours. I'm about to chop her, my question is that I dry my weed in the same room as my flower room and my veg room. Can she still pollinate my you get crop if I dry her in the same room after I chop her up??? Some people have said this wouldn't be a problem, but I don't want to screw up my other grow. What do you think??? I caught this pretty early, I think.
One of my plants started to hermie. I seperate e her crime the others and put her in the dark for 48 hours. I'm about to chop her, my question is that I dry my weed in the same room as my flower room and my veg room. Can she still pollinate my you get crop if I dry her in the same room after I chop her up??? Some people have said this wouldn't be a problem, but I don't want to screw up my other grow. What do you think??? I caught this pretty early, I think.
northener
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Nice looking shrubbery you have there.
Right on C!
That tent is gunna be bumpin full of buds!
Nice work my friend
That tent is gunna be bumpin full of buds!
Nice work my friend
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Good question
Truthfully i dont know. I'd er on the side of caution though. As far as im aware the pollen could still pollinate any flowers in the room. Even though the plant is drying, pollen can survive quite some time and all it takes is a tiny bit to pollinate flowers. i dont dry in the same room, ive never had this problem. Sorry i cant be of more help on this one.
As far as the chopped plant pollinating the others, I wouldn't take that risk. You don't want to risk your entire crop getting seeded, it's a real pain in the ass to clean the room of pollen too. Instead, I would just take a big cardboard box or something, and use that to dry that one out in a different area.
If that's not an option, I would at least try to snip off the nanners first before putting it back in the room.
Hope this helps, good luck!
If that's not an option, I would at least try to snip off the nanners first before putting it back in the room.
Hope this helps, good luck!
TG40
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Thanks guys, I chopped her and got here hanging on the other side of the house, man I hope she didn't screw up my other plants. The nanners were so small I had to use a microscope to see them, I don't know if thy can hurt anything when they are that small. I didn't even flush her! Sucks! She is covered in trichs and a few had changed color, I hope it's not a total loss.
Does anyone know how early do they start releasing pollen? I hope I caught in time. I have sour d that was in the same room that has 20" long buds bigger around than a beer can. I don't want that one to get seeded. I'll never plant a freeby seed again. I've heard this happens a lot with freebies when you buy seeds.
Does anyone know how early do they start releasing pollen? I hope I caught in time. I have sour d that was in the same room that has 20" long buds bigger around than a beer can. I don't want that one to get seeded. I'll never plant a freeby seed again. I've heard this happens a lot with freebies when you buy seeds.
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i dont think its that its a free seed, ive had lots good ones. some seeds are more prone than others. if uve spotted it early and got plant out the room u should be ok.
TG40
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Hope so. The plants in that flower room are like day 70th day of flower. Sour d. finishes slow. The CKM I'm not to worried about because its getting chopped today. Critical Kali Mist is f$&@ing good weed. Even without a flush and no cure it is awesome. It's the sour d I'm worried about because its still maturing.
I got a question, my CKM shredded ALL of her fans about 3 weeks ago. They just shriveled up and fell off. ALL OF THEM! Why? My soil run off ph was really low like 5.6. Something was locked out. It is still really superb weed though.
I hate soil because of stupid shit like his. I always ph'd my water and nutes.