Duggan Does C&N's Devils Carnival

Morning Duggs! Yeah I think those buds will be just fine. The plants are sacrificing the leaves, to protect the buds. Just think...in a couple of months you'll be able to military press those root balls over your head and slam them down on your knee, cracking them in half, before you cascade all that soil in your neighbors garden area! If that doesn't release your stress, well there's always your canoe trip!.

Gazoo

My first run last year in 1st run soil looked just like your garden too, and I was following those exact instructions I found in an early post somewhere here on 420mag. Those are not Doc's instructions, and I found that they are too Ridgid and don't take many things into consideration, that you as the grower observe. I found by doing the foliar sprays on a schedule like that caused crispy burnt leaves. Instead I destress when the plants show mild stress, which if the environment is good should be minimal. Doc even stated that he will spray brix only once every 2 weeks when plants are in soil runs 2+3. I initially liked those instructions because they seemed precise. I know now there is no shortcut to learning what the kit can do. You just have to put the time in, make all the mistakes that are to be made, kick yourself in the ass when you make'em (my learning process, taught to me by my Dad's foot.), and make adjustments for the next grow.
 
DopyLemontree said:
Morning Duggs! Yeah I think those buds will be just fine. The plants are sacrificing the leaves, to protect the buds. Just think...in a couple of months you’ll be able to military press those root balls over your head and slam them down on your knee, cracking them in half, before you cascade all that soil in your neighbors garden area! If that doesn’t release your stress, well there’s always your canoe trip!.

Gazoo

My first run last year in 1st run soil looked just like your garden too, and I was following those exact instructions I found in an early post somewhere here on 420mag. Those are not Doc’s instructions, and I found that they are too Ridgid and don’t take many things into consideration, that you as the grower observe. I found by doing the foliar sprays on a schedule like that caused crispy burnt leaves. Instead I destress when the plants show mild stress, which if the environment is good should be minimal. Doc even stated that he will spray brix only once every 2 weeks when plants are in soil runs 2+3. I initially liked those instructions because they seemed precise. I know now there is no shortcut to learning what the kit can do. You just have to put the time in, make all the mistakes that are to be made, kick yourself in the ass when you make’em (my learning process, taught to me by my Dad’s foot.), and make adjustments for the next grow.
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Hence my earlier statement, Like reading a TOYOTA car manual

EDIT: Just purchased a BULK KIT but if my next grow does not improve and I
see this again I will have to throw in the towel.
 
Ok, I'm having a similar problem with my Malawi.

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The damage looks somewhat different, but that may be because of the thinner leaves. WTH is going on? This is one of three plants I have in the same soil, and neither of the other two are showing this.

Duggan, I know your pride in leaf vitality is taking a blow here. I don't think this is you. There are too many having the same challenge.

Gazoo, thank you for the Super Drench measurements. I'll flush her now and get that going.
 
understood Gazoo! Is Doc fully aware of your troubles ....after following directions to a 'T'....please inform him of your frustrations...he should know....ok!
 
Duggan said:
understood Gazoo! Is Doc fully aware of your troubles ....after following directions to a 'T'....please inform him of your frustrations...he should know....ok!
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No have not informed Doc, was just going to ride it out, but once i
took a look at yours it seemed to so similar I thought I should post.

I am now wondering if PRO-MIX has changed something in there product
that could be a issue ?
 
SweetSue said:
Ok, I'm having a similar problem with my Malawi.

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The damage looks somewhat different, but that may be because of the thinner leaves. WTH is going on? This is one of three plants I have in the same soil, and neither of the other two are showing this.

Duggan, I know your pride in leaf vitality is taking a blow here. I don't think this is you. There are too many having the same challenge.

Gazoo, thank you for the Super Drench measurements. I'll flush her now and get that going.
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STOP Don't follow my directions. I have no idea what I am doing now
 
ok.....Doc....hello....Sue....yes...there are parts of mine that look exactly as yours.....i feel better now(not really!!)We gotta figure this out. Sue....your plants are showing exactly what Gazoo and mine are.....Doc needs to see this.Pronto! Something is way off here....and it aint just my plants! WTF???
 
Gazoo said:
STOP Don't follow my directions. I have no idea what I am doing now
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I heard you Gazoo. I'll wait to hear from the Lab before I proceed. I have a harvest to get into the dehydrator. That'll take me an hour or so.
 
Im at work....no time to chat.....please inform Doc...Gazoo....Sue...!
 
This issue had to stop....right now!!Too many of us are having the very same problems.....thanks for coming forward Sue and Gazoo!!!
 
Duggan said:
ok.....Doc....hello....Sue....yes...there are parts of mine that look exactly as yours.....i feel better now(not really!!)We gotta figure this out. Sue....your plants are showing exactly what Gazoo and mine are.....Doc needs to see this.Pronto! Something is way off here....and it aint just my plants! WTF???
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Take a breath Duggan. :hugs::hugs::hugs:

We'll figure this out. Part of the mystery is why this only happened to the Malawi. My two other kit girls look like winners.

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has not had!
 
Goodluck getting everything figured out to you Duggs, Gazoo, and Sue!! I am sure Doc will come through and figure it out.
 
I was literally on my way over to tell you sues plant looks like it's having a similar issue....

Hope you guys can figure it out

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TheMadDabber said:
I was literally on my way over to tell you sues plant looks like it's having a similar issue....

Hope you guys can figure it out

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I am hoping its my fault, But with this hitting more than one person, including a
very experienced grower all at once I am not sure.

Don't like giving bad press but this may be the start of something bigger

EDIT: Also this looks to be hitting at Early to Mid Flower in all 3 cases.
Everything was working wonderfully until then
 
Gazoo said:
I am hoping its my fault, But with this hitting more than one person, including a
very experienced grower all at once I am not sure.

Don't like giving bad press but this may be the start of something bigger
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Fake news! Na just playing. I love your username btw!

It is very peculiar are they all the same strain? Dare I say the v word? .

Yeah when 2 of the most reputable growers around have the same stuff happening well let's say too much to be a coincidence lol.

Why is it that you blame yourself gazoo?
 
Gazoo has no business blaming himself...he has followed directions to a 'T'. Like has been said ..there are at least three of us with the very same symptoms...early to mid bloom,..everything before that was perfect. I seen my issues coming on ever so slightly about a month ago and suspected it would get worse , as i've seen this before . I immediately addressed it (symptoms) with brix and snake oil along with epsoms. No change in plants...just got worse. Now...that being said plants are chugging along but something is NOT right . I would recommend straight water for anyone having these extreme symptoms...after all it's only water ..and if Doc is right about a salt build up and too much organic matter (believe it!!)then water only is def. the way to go. Not 100% sure though...that's the part that bothers me. SS's plants are literally identical to mine. I could take pics and you would say they are hers , not mine,..that's how closely they resemble each other. Lets figure this out.
I'm about to start another very special grow (they all are...:tokin:)and would like some answers...not just guesses...i've had about 25 yrs. of guessing ...i'm done with that ,...that's why i use Doc's gear so.....!:Namaste:
 
TheMadDabber said:
Why is it that you blame yourself gazoo?
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I really don't but since this my FIRST Grow using the Kit I have to lean in that direction.

I just can't believe its Salt build up OR excess organic build up in my situation, I
Just have not given them enough to cause that yet ?

Yes they are chucking along but still need to bring them another 4 or 5 weeks
for full potential, hope they will make it before I end there miserable existence.
 
You guys have an awesome crew that grows in your kits. I am positive that you fine folks putting your brain power together will get this situated quickly!!
 
Wow,...same , exact symptoms but different causes? Gazoo, have any of the leaves turned all patchy like SS and mine? Red stems , curling up, burnt tips and edges, rust spots. The Brix levels are prolly in the basement too...FFS's....Ok , i'm gonna eat this Rib Eye and veggies,....puff a bit of Double Berry....chillax. Have a great night Gazoo and gang!:passitleft:......:high-five:
 
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