Drying question

Slowpuffer said:
Yes, my question is, how do you raise the Rh, using boneva. I don’t know why I’m wasting my time. And that should be my question. Prove what you’re saying. I don’t believe you. I don’t believe Rh can be raised permanently , once it dips below a certain point. Prove me wrong .
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Boveda is used for humidity control. Educate yourself before you call people out and call them liars. I don't appreciate being called a liar when you could have easily Googled this like anyone else would fucking do. You place your buds in a jar.... I think you understand up to this point. You put the Boveda in the jar with your bud and seal the jar to maintain the humidity at the desired level. Not rocket science.
 
DaddyKush said:
Boveda is used for humidity control. Educate yourself before you call people out and call them liars. I don't appreciate being called a liar when you could have easily Googled this like anyone else would fucking do. You place your buds in a jar.... I think you understand up to this point. You put the Boveda in the jar with your bud and seal the jar to maintain the humidity at the desired level. Not rocket science.
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Boneva is a is stabilizer of humidity, but won’t raise humidity much, if at all. After I stabilize jars at about 62%, then the boneva will help keep it there. And I don’t call folks liars, I just think you’re wrong. I’m assuming you have been wrong at least a few times in your life? I know I have !!
 
Truthfully, you’re both kind of right. You can bring your buds down to 40% rh then bring it back with a boveda.

I would advise against it, like slowpuffer is saying because once you dip below 60% rh the curing completely stops, and adding humidity won’t change that.

Curing is literally reducing humidity slowly enough that metabolic processes inside the plant matter continue to take place. Hence the terpene profile coming out a lot more and the chlorophyll smell going away. That’s why most people opt to dry their buds to around 70-72 then bring them down to 62 over the course of weeks.

Daddykush’s practices don’t seem at all ideal to me either, but if he’s happy with his product then leave it alone I guess.
 
ChefDGreen said:
Daddykush’s practices don’t seem at all ideal to me either, but if he’s happy with his product then leave it alone I guess.
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OK, then what is your relative humidity when you dry? It sounds like you're saying it's over 60%.

Also, I'm wondering how you can stop the curing process when you're still drying and haven't even started the curing process yet.
 
ChefDGreen said:
That’s why most people opt to dry their buds to around 70-72 then bring them down to 62 over the course of weeks.
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I have never ever heard of anyone drying at 70-72% rh, let alone "most people". I'd never go higher than 55% prior to starting the cure.
 
DaddyKush said:
I have never ever heard of anyone drying at 70-72% rh, let alone "most people". I'd never go higher than 55% prior to starting the cure.
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You can’t start the cure at 55 because it ends at 60. Jarring your nugs at 70-72 and burping them down to 62 is the slowest way to evaporate away that moisture... curing starts the moment you cut the stalks off the roots.

I think you misunderstand what the curing process is.

To answer your question, I dry until the nugs read 70-72 after 2-3 hours in a jar at room temp. Then I go to burping (which is still drying) I burp for long periods until I’m under 65% then I’ll burp the jars for short periods until they stay at 62% overnight.
 
DaddyKush said:
I have never ever heard of anyone drying at 70-72% rh, let alone "most people". I'd never go higher than 55% prior to starting the cure.
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DaddyKush, just know. That no matter how you finally decide. To cure your weed, thats your business, and I never meant to disrespect you in any way. May your garden be green!!
 
ChefDGreen said:
I think you misunderstand what the curing process is.
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No, I definitely don't misunderstand what curing is.:rolleyes: Many years of successfully dried and cured buds, but there's always some guy on the internet telling you you're wrong. Nothing new there. If you know better, you can answer all the questions from now on.
 
Slowpuffer said:
Yes, my question is, how do you raise the Rh, using boneva. I don’t know why I’m wasting my time. And that should be my question. Prove what you’re saying. I don’t believe you. I don’t believe Rh can be raised permanently , once it dips below a certain point. Prove me wrong .
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We add in boveda packs 62%

What happens is if the plant material is higher than 62% the boveda pack brings down the rh to 62%

If the rh is lower the boveda pack will raise it to 62%

Once it gets to 62% it stays there and the freshness stays and the flowers will cure at the perfect rh.

That's how it works.

Letting your weed get too dry is never a good thing. I do not usually ever have dry weed after hang dry. Its usually too sticky to ever get too dry.

Good problem to have.

Mold is always my concern after chop.

Plants need to hang dry in controlled environment to avoid it.
 
bobrown14 said:
We add in boveda packs 62%

What happens is if the plant material is higher than 62% the boveda pack brings down the rh to 62%

If the rh is lower the boveda pack will raise it to 62%

Once it gets to 62% it stays there and the freshness stays and the flowers will cure at the perfect rh.

That's how it works.

Letting your weed get too dry is never a good thing. I do not usually ever have dry weed after hang dry. Its usually too sticky to ever get too dry.

Good problem to have.

Mold is always my concern after chop.

Plants need to hang dry in controlled environment to avoid it.
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Mine are two days into hang time. I'm now at 50% rh, room temp is 70f. Hope to get a week hang time ? And the plan is that they'll be about 65-70% in jar, at time I start burping. End aim is 62%, but 59% will be fine. people tell me, you're gonna get mold, well how come I haven't seen any in 30+ yrs. of using jars . only mold I get is bud rot, and that's disgusting !! And I'm hearing you loud & clear about the sticky buds wont dry !!
 
Slowpuffer said:
Mine are two days into hang time. I'm now at 50% rh, room temp is 70f. Hope to get a week hang time ? And the plan is that they'll be about 65-70% in jar, at time I start burping. End aim is 62%, but 59% will be fine. people tell me, you're gonna get mold, well how come I haven't seen any in 30+ yrs. of using jars . only mold I get is bud rot, and that's disgusting !! And I'm hearing you loud & clear about the sticky buds wont dry !!
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You should really try drying in the fridge
 
Slowpuffer said:
Yes, my question is, how do you raise the Rh, using boneva. I don’t know why I’m wasting my time. And that should be my question. Prove what you’re saying. I don’t believe you. I don’t believe Rh can be raised permanently , once it dips below a certain point. Prove me wrong .
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Ok catching back up here.

To answer your question on how Rh can change either up or down in storage.
Yes it can happen. Try and think about how high quality cigars are stored.

That should tell you something there. Why wood anyone spend say $20 on a cigar and worry about the humidity its stored in?

For cannabis there's usually the most moisture left in the stems that the flowers are attached to. Once you put the flowers in a container, there's a finite amount of moisture in the container, either in the flowers or more in the stems, whatever. Doesn't matter. This is part of the CURING process. Can add in a Boveda that will make everything in the container 62% Rh.

So you can put your dry weed in a container say 50% Rh and then add in a Boveda pack, close the container and everything in the container including the air will be at 62% RH.

It's just Physics. I think there's a few principals of thermodynamics at play there. Temp is part of the equation of course. Since water is a vapor, a solid and a liquid. All depending on the temps and pressure.

Not saying that you can turn a sow's ear into a race horse here but you can take dryish weed, leave it in an closed container with a 62% Boveda pack and it will hydrate back to 62% Rh over time.

Not going to get any of your terpines back tho so don't expect a miracle.

Why drying is as important as growing. You can easily over dry and ruin your harvest with improper handling. There are many ways to screw things up in the dry, cure and trim phase. Just as there are in the growing phase.

I always err on the side of caution and do not dry to snapping twigs. To me that's over dry. I don't mind burping containers or just putting trimmed flower in a cardboard box over night to dry more thoroughly, if they are damp after trim.

Once over dry, the terpines are mostly gone! So you loose your flavors and your smells for the most part.
 
DaddyKush said:
I have never ever heard of anyone drying at 70-72% rh, let alone "most people". I'd never go higher than 55% prior to starting the cure.
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I'm very particular about the Rh of the room the plants I'm drying in.. Yes I dry in lower-ish humidity. Plants will be not that dry before they go into a container with a Boveda pack.
 
bobrown14 said:
Not saying that you can turn a sow's ear into a race horse here but you can take dryish weed, leave it in an closed container with a 62% Boveda pack and it will hydrate back to 62% Rh over time.

Not going to get any of your terpines back tho so don't expect a miracle.

Why drying is as important as growing. You can easily over dry and ruin your harvest with improper handling.

I always err on the side of caution and do not dry to snapping twigs. To me that's over dry.

Once over dry, the terpines are mostly gone! So you loose your flavors and your smells for the most part.
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This is why I dry to (to not at, I dry at 40F so my rh doesn’t matter) 70-72% Rh in jar. You want to slowly approach 62% from above. You DO NOT want over shoot and rehydrate. That would be, as you said, improper handling.
 
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