Well since we are trying to find more than just what the original study showed (as we are finding things that weren't pointed out in the original study), I am guessing this is a retirement plant for me. It's gonna be a while away guys but I'll do it.. pollinating a reveg. I got this in 20 years hahaha

I know the MC droughted was better than the droughted Amnesia as we discussed.

I guess I could always try another MC on a different strain next and see where we end up. At least continue to have us tinkering with and seeing what is and what isn't and what can be.

I'm curious to see if I have the same increased trichome results on another MC from a droughted mother.

I'll also be using a test kit at the end of my Super Silver Crack photoperiod grow so we can at least add some more factual scientifically based evidence on this theory.

Overall though, with everyone branching out and trying their own ways, no matter what, it seems to make an impact on the final product. And heck, we are all continuing to learn

Thank you everyone for being open to explore the possibilities
 
Could be something there. I'm just going to continue the drought for what I've seen and the kaplan paper results.
Yeah I hear you, Im so excited to just do it for myself on a small scale and get better at it as time goes by.

Th unknown compound might be what is different about the kind of high it gives as well (refd by Hafta earlier).

I think understanding about Droughting and other methods that directly effect trichomes on any level is where all the focus is logically heading.

Its like getting tipsy on vodka vs tequila vs wine vs beer etc. They all have different kinds of feels but all alcoholic drinks. Look at how much time and effort and well funded studies over long stretches of time has gone into each kind of alcohol there is, across humanity.
Thats weed next in many ways, I think.
So many things to be studied just in sativa vs indica trichomes. Let alone in the environmental effects of specific genetics and the effect that any given set of stressors in conjunction with those environments will have on the active components from those specific genetics. The rabbit holes here seem quite abundant :thumb::smokin:
Its sooooooo exciting lol:cheer::passitleft:
 
Yeah I hear you, Im so excited to just do it for myself on a small scale and get better at it as time goes by.

Th unknown compound might be what is different about the kind of high it gives as well (refd by Hafta earlier).

I think understanding about Droughting and other methods that directly effect trichomes on any level is where all the focus is logically heading.

Its like getting tipsy on vodka vs tequila vs wine vs beer etc. They all have different kinds of feels but all alcoholic drinks. Look at how much time and effort and well funded studies over long stretches of time has gone into each kind of alcohol there is, across humanity.
Thats weed next in many ways, I think.
So many things to be studied just in sativa vs indica trichomes. Let alone in the environmental effects of specific genetics and the effect that any given set of stressors in conjunction with those environments will have on the active components from those specific genetics. The rabbit holes here seem quite abundant :thumb::smokin:
Its sooooooo exciting lol:cheer::passitleft:
The alcohol analogy though...spot on.
You're excitement keeps me motivated. All of the efforts and cheering on from every one of you that follow or stop by this thread just give me the extra umph I need. Makes all of this seem that much more worthwhile.

I'm a day late and a dollar short, as usual...

Her buds in the right light are getting super pink and purple and even blue. Hard to tell in some pics but glaringly obvious on the trichomes. Share those later...

@Mars Hydro FC4800 @Prescription Blend @DYNOMYCO Raised....
DAY 3 DROUGHT
@CannaPot BIG BULL PHOTOPERIOD, "MAESTRO": NON-NON-SCOPED BUD and LEAF/PLANT SHOTS












Be back with trichomes and more plant and leaf shots for Maestro's Day 4, tonight!

Happy Droughting!
 
The alcohol analogy though...spot on.
You're excitement keeps me motivated. All of the efforts and cheering on from every one of you that follow or stop by this thread just give me the extra umph I need. Makes all of this seem that much more worthwhile.
:cheer: :green_heart: :passitleft: :thanks:
I'm a day late and a dollar short, as usual...

@Mars Hydro FC4800 @Prescription Blend @DYNOMYCO Raised....
DAY 3 DROUGHT
@CannaPot BIG BULL PHOTOPERIOD, "MAESTRO": NON-NON-SCOPED BUD and LEAF/PLANT SHOTS












Be back with trichomes and more plant and leaf shots for Maestro's Day 4, tonight!

Happy Droughting!
She looks like a stink bomb! Very dank greens and beautiful coloring!
 
No, :thanks: :thanks: :high-five: :high-five: :passitleft:
She looks like a stink bomb! Very dank greens and beautiful coloring!
She smells so sweet. Like I don't know how to describe it. Different than any others I have had. I'm going to go scope out her terpene wheel and see what she's got going on because she is just special-has been from the get go (she's always been my favorite in this grow, if you remember. My caboose)

Her coloring is rad. Very unique. She will be ran again in the next grow. Instead of 5 I'm going to drop 7 seeds, 2 of them Big Bull, I will veg them out in the 4 x 4 then flip em over to run alone to finish in the 3 x 3. I'll keep a separate journal for them and I will again drought one and not the other for yet another comparative grow.

I am really in love with this one. I need some more Indicas. I've been pushed to run Sativas recently cause my friends are pests (jk lol) but I'm an Indica girl through and through man.
 
Well since we are trying to find more than just what the original study showed (as we are finding things that weren't pointed out in the original study), I am guessing this is a retirement plant for me. It's gonna be a while away guys but I'll do it.. pollinating a reveg. I got this in 20 years hahaha

I know the MC droughted was better than the droughted Amnesia as we discussed.

I guess I could always try another MC on a different strain next and see where we end up. At least continue to have us tinkering with and seeing what is and what isn't and what can be.

I'm curious to see if I have the same increased trichome results on another MC from a droughted mother.

I'll also be using a test kit at the end of my Super Silver Crack photoperiod grow so we can at least add some more factual scientifically based evidence on this theory.

Overall though, with everyone branching out and trying their own ways, no matter what, it seems to make an impact on the final product. And heck, we are all continuing to learn

Thank you everyone for being open to explore the possibilities
Aye KC,
Reports from cannabis crafters open the doors wide for future exploration and discovery. Doctor Kaplan did not think up the droughting idea himself. He had heard rumors from folks just like you n me. Then he used his smarts and put the practice to test. Next the scientific community was presented his factual evidence, and in the form they are most comfortable accepting, as an abstract for his doctoral thesis. Nice!!!

Folks keep finding new ways and means. :love:
 
Aye KC,
Reports from cannabis crafters open the doors wide for future exploration and discovery. Doctor Kaplan did not think up the droughting idea himself. He had heard rumors from folks just like you n me. Then he used his smarts and put the practice to test. Next the scientific community was presented his factual evidence, and in the form they are most comfortable accepting, as an abstract for his doctoral thesis. Nice!!!

Folks keep finding new ways and means. :love:
Ahoy Maritimer.

What a pleasure to have you, my mentor, come by.

When we get some more research done, my goal is to link up with you and see what steps I need to take to take all of our findings to the next level. To help further this study, to help shed more light onto this concept. To open gateways for others to benefit from this technique-as many as we can. To educate the cannabis growing and scientific communities worldwide.

Can't tell you how grateful I am for everything you have done to get us where we are today on this thread.
 
hehehehhehe lol:rofl:
She smells so sweet. Like I don't know how to describe it. Different than any others I have had. I'm going to go scope out her terpene wheel and see what she's got going on because she is just special-has been from the get go (she's always been my favorite in this grow, if you remember. My caboose)
I do remember! Yeah its good to find an dmake note of those extra special terps and Go flavor hunting on next seed buy.
Her coloring is rad. Very unique. She will be ran again in the next grow. Instead of 5 I'm going to drop 7 seeds, 2 of them Big Bull, I will veg them out in the 4 x 4 then flip em over to run alone to finish in the 3 x 3. I'll keep a separate journal for them and I will again drought one and not the other for yet another comparative grow.
Do you pop a bunch and take only the best as seedlings, or do you go one by one seed wise?
I am really in love with this one. I need some more Indicas. I've been pushed to run Sativas recently cause my friends are pests (jk lol) but I'm an Indica girl through and through man.
I have always been an indica lover too. I enjoy its depth and breadth of high. I like sativa lots especially for social situations it really helps me a little more with the anxieties etc than indica. However indica is for evertything else, sleep, pain, chilling, writing, painting, cooking, hiking. Love my indica muchly.
 
hehehehhehe lol:rofl:

I do remember! Yeah its good to find an dmake note of those extra special terps and Go flavor hunting on next seed buy.
Exactly!
Do you pop a bunch and take only the best as seedlings, or do you go one by one seed wise?
Lol no never let go of a seedling!
I am blessed that I've never not germinated a seed. I'll drop 7 seeds and use 5 for the new grow with the @Cultiuana 660/720 WATT in the 4 x 4 once Maestro is gone and I'll keep the 2 Big Bull in that tent through veg and when the 3 Stooges Grow is over, I'll move the Big Bulls in to flower and finish there with the @Mars Hydro SP3000. I'll leave the other 5 in the 4 x 4
I have always been an indica lover too. I enjoy its depth and breadth of high. I like sativa lots especially for social situations it really helps me a little more with the anxieties etc than indica. However indica is for evertything else, sleep, pain, chilling, writing, painting, cooking, hiking. Love my indica muchly.
Indica for me does it all. Pain. Depression. Anxiety. Insomnia. Energy. I dont know why but my brain is just more receptive to Indicas than Sativas-generally.
 
Exactly!

Lol no never let go of a seedling!
I am blessed that I've never not germinated a seed. I'll drop 7 seeds and use 5 for the new grow with the @Cultiuana 660/720 WATT in the 4 x 4 once Maestro is gone and I'll keep the 2 Big Bull in that tent through veg and when the 3 Stooges Grow is over, I'll move the Big Bulls in to flower and finish there with the @Mars Hydro SP3000. I'll leave the other 5 in the 4 x 4
Thanks! Been taking more of an interest in what others do with their seed popping routines.
Indica for me does it all. Pain. Depression. Anxiety. Insomnia. Energy. I dont know why but my brain is just more receptive to Indicas than Sativas-generally.
Sativas for social and indicas for inside. Though I do incidca for soical anx too lol
but yes the insomnia too@!
 
Thanks! Been taking more of an interest in what others do with their seed popping routines.
What do you want to know about mine? I'm a paper towel germ and 15 hour plain water soak prior to plating. I use a soft blue light until pop and then they're under an LED
Sativas for social and indicas for inside. Though I do incidca for soical anx too lol
but yes the insomnia too@!
I need Indicas socially to deal with the people that enjoy Sativas and I need the Sativas for inside to be a chicken head mom but the Indicas to be a mom with a head still on her chicken shoulders:rofl:
 
What do you want to know about mine? I'm a paper towel germ and 15 hour plain water soak prior to plating. I use a soft blue light until pop and then they're under an LED
Thanks! I’m just wondering how many people pop extra seeds and choose best looker. Also really serious would like to see if autos benefit with having some helmet trauma early on.
I need Indicas socially to deal with the people that enjoy Sativas and I need the Sativas for inside to be a chicken head mom but the Indicas to be a mom with a head still on her chicken shoulders:rofl:
What is with the chicken stuff!?
Are you cooking chicken tonight ? Cacciatore?
 
I’m just wondering how many people pop extra seeds and choose best looker.
I do that with clones but seeds are too expensive for me to pop a bunch I don't intend to grow. I keep a single plant going with clones, but will upgrade with another seed depending on the plant.
 
Thanks! I’m just wondering how many people pop extra seeds and choose best looker. Also really serious would like to see if autos benefit with having some helmet trauma early on.
Helmet trauma? Topping? I don't top mine. Others do. Not I said the cat. Had an auto hermie once last year. Hermied my other 2 autos, too. Spared my photos as they had not quite hit preflower just yet. Gave me my ability to make freezer hash this year, though. Only auto I ever topped. Only auto to hermie. I don't like those odds.
What is with the chicken stuff!?
Are you cooking chicken tonight ? Cacciatore?
Yes in fact, Moroccan chicken over cardamom spiced Spanish rice cause why not...
I do that with clones but seeds are too expensive for me to pop a bunch I don't intend to grow. I keep a single plant going with clones, but will upgrade with another seed depending on the plant.
Yes too expensive!

@Mars Hydro FC4800 @Prescription Blend @DYNOMYCO Raised....
DAY 4 DROUGHT
@CannaPot BIG BULL PHOTOPERIOD, "MAESTRO":

NON-SCOPED BUD/TRICHOME and LEAF/PLANT SHOTS

Tonight I'm doing this a little different.
I've got some straight up phone trichome shots of Maestro tonight. Don't worry, I'll be back in the morning with scoped ones....

Just wanted to see what I could see on these and throw something different in the mix.

But look how long these fingies are! :rollit::blunt::blunt:










We have no wilt at Day 4 but a touch of yellowing.








She has dried up about 2/3 in from the sides of the pot.


Her buds are rocking out gorgeous








It's also Stella's Last Day! Bid her a fine farewell!






See you all in the morning with Scoped Trichomes for Maestro!
 
Aye KC,
Reports from cannabis crafters open the doors wide for future exploration and discovery. Doctor Kaplan did not think up the droughting idea himself. He had heard rumors from folks just like you n me. Then he used his smarts and put the practice to test. Next the scientific community was presented his factual evidence, and in the form they are most comfortable accepting, as an abstract for his doctoral thesis. Nice!!!

Folks keep finding new ways and means. :love:
I'm thinking he saw these lads. (for those who haven't seen this) (https)://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoUrx0ZSTY
1:52 in.
 
Helmet trauma? Topping? I don't top mine. Others do. Not I said the cat. Had an auto hermie once last year. Hermied my other 2 autos, too. Spared my photos as they had not quite hit preflower just yet. Gave me my ability to make freezer hash this year, though. Only auto I ever topped. Only auto to hermie. I don't like those odds.
So I've noticed with several of my girls that had severe helmet head issues and needed surgery. They did remarkably better than their sisters who had no helmet issues and were ahead for weeks, due to the stunt on the autos with bad helmets. Eventually, the stunted helmet trauma'd girls overtook and did way better. I had so many variables with the outdoor stuff that I wasn't sure. Then I saw sort of the same thing happen with a few others. Gandalfs, Deformatrix and Limpy are looking to do the same thing. That's where my interest in it is coming from.
Yes in fact, Moroccan chicken over cardamom spiced Spanish rice cause why not...
Nom nom nom... why not indeed!
Yes too expensive!
I do that with clones but seeds are too expensive for me to pop a bunch I don't intend to grow. I keep a single plant going with clones, but will upgrade with another seed depending on the plant.
Back in the day when we use to only have regular seeds we'd have to pop tons and grow until they showed sex. Often times we'd get lucky and have an abundance of girls pop up. After culling the boys if there were extra girls we'd give them some bonus time to see who was showing the best structure. Cull the weak sisters after a bit and grow from the ones left. Wound up having noticable increases in yield so we started to doing it all the time.

Was wondering if anyone still did it that way with feminized photo seed or autos.
 
So I've noticed with several of my girls that had severe helmet head issues and needed surgery. They did remarkably better than their sisters who had no helmet issues and were ahead for weeks, due to the stunt on the autos with bad helmets. Eventually, the stunted helmet trauma'd girls overtook and did way better. I had so many variables with the outdoor stuff that I wasn't sure. Then I saw sort of the same thing happen with a few others. Gandalfs, Deformatrix and Limpy are looking to do the same thing. That's where my interest in it is coming from.

Nom nom nom... why not indeed!


Back in the day when we use to only have regular seeds we'd have to pop tons and grow until they showed sex. Often times we'd get lucky and have an abundance of girls pop up. After culling the boys if there were extra girls we'd give them some bonus time to see who was showing the best structure. Cull the weak sisters after a bit and grow from the ones left. Wound up having noticable increases in yield so we started to doing it all the time.

Was wondering if anyone still did it that way with feminized photo seed or autos.
Yep.
 
I'm thinking he saw these lads. (for those who haven't seen this) (https)://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoUrx0ZSTY
1:52 in.
:thanks:
So I've noticed with several of my girls that had severe helmet head issues and needed surgery. They did remarkably better than their sisters who had no helmet issues and were ahead for weeks, due to the stunt on the autos with bad helmets. Eventually, the stunted helmet trauma'd girls overtook and did way better. I had so many variables with the outdoor stuff that I wasn't sure. Then I saw sort of the same thing happen with a few others. Gandalfs, Deformatrix and Limpy are looking to do the same thing. That's where my interest in it is coming from.
Oh believe me. I have heard and seen it can benefit the plant and yield. This is just one of those things, I'm firm on. I open up my doors to many different avenues on the green path of growing life but just for me, the helmet trauma is not something I'll do with an auto ever again.

Remember though. I don't grow for yield. Especially my autos. Those I grow for the grow , the uniqueness, the quick development. I like them to stay small and compact because I alwsys run them with photoperiods so my goal with them is just more fun than anything else.

To each his own....seen it done well plenty of times!
Nom nom nom... why not indeed!
Delicious although TK said it was spicy...whimp...
Back in the day when we use to only have regular seeds we'd have to pop tons and grow until they showed sex. Often times we'd get lucky and have an abundance of girls pop up. After culling the boys if there were extra girls we'd give them some bonus time to see who was showing the best structure. Cull the weak sisters after a bit and grow from the ones left. Wound up having noticable increases in yield so we started to doing it all the time.

Was wondering if anyone still did it that way with feminized photo seed or autos.
I know people do this still. I wish I was interested in growing back then to have seen this expansion from reg seeds to the feminized available now.
Thanks for the assurance, Stone!

@Mars Hydro FC4800 @Prescription Blend @DYNOMYCO Raised....
DAY 4 DROUGHT
@CannaPot BIG BULL PHOTOPERIOD, "MAESTRO":

TRICHOME SHOTS

Tried to get some various trichome shots. Some of the trichs deep in morph, some of the ones starting the morph. Some colors. Some not. Some different angles.

It's fun to see the long trichs on the top of some of the pics, hanging down off a bud and nearly touching another bud.

Heck, trichs are just fun to look at period.

As we mentioned, these squat indicas handle the drought better than anyone. This girl will be doing this for the long haul.

Let's see how many more days we can get out of her.

At this point both Stella and Sandy had about had enough, while Maestro is just getting her game face on.

Happy Droughting!


















 
:thanks:

Oh believe me. I have heard and seen it can benefit the plant and yield.
Youve seen this documented in other grows? Where autos that have severe helmet head and surgery over perform comparatively? Id love to see them!:popcorn:
This is just one of those things, I'm firm on. I open up my doors to many different avenues on the green path of growing life but just for me, the helmet trauma is not something I'll do with an auto ever again.
Well mine got helmeted because I didn't try to help the seeds (no sanding or extra soak or stuff) , so a few of them got it bad. It was either let them die or do surgery. Not something Id expected people were doing on purpose at all, so Im excited to read up on it. :)
Remember though. I don't grow for yield. Especially my autos. Those I grow for the grow , the uniqueness, the quick development. I like them to stay small and compact because I alwsys run them with photoperiods so my goal with them is just more fun than anything else.
Oh definitely, Im looking at growing an LSD-25 auto just for the colours, or a cherry cola for what they say is a rare "fizzy" terp. Id like to experience that fizz but dont need a big yield. So yus, defiintely get what youre saying.
To each his own....seen it done well plenty of times!
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Delicious although TK said it was spicy...whimp...
The spice of life... sad.
I know people do this still. I wish I was interested in growing back then to have seen this expansion from reg seeds to the feminized available now.
Much better circumstances to grow nowadays, the paranoia of growing back then was a serious mind effer. SUper high and happy and constantly worried enough to not enjoy it as much as I couldve.
 
Youve seen this documented in other grows? Where autos that have severe helmet head and surgery over perform comparatively? Id love to see them!:popcorn:
Maybe we aren't talking about the same thing after all? Maybe I'm two coffees and 5 books short of a happy meal? I was just talking about recovering from a topping....someone just hit my reset and I'll be ok...
Well mine got helmeted because I didn't try to help the seeds (no sanding or extra soak or stuff) , so a few of them got it bad. It was either let them die or do surgery. Not something Id expected people were doing on purpose at all, so Im excited to read up on it. :)
Oh this helmeting lol. See there were a few things short in my head yesterday. Even started taking the wrong notes on the wrog product I'll be reviewing....yesterday I was kind of lost in my head. Didn't sleep either. Today is better, except the baby fell head first onto concrete while we were at MILs...so maybe questions for me today should be held until tomorrow :rolleyes::laughtwo:
Oh definitely, Im looking at growing an LSD-25 auto just for the colours, or a cherry cola for what they say is a rare "fizzy" terp. Id like to experience that fizz but dont need a big yield. So yus, defiintely get what youre saying.
Cherry Cola just sounds delicious. We talked about Dr Pepper already....:yummy:
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The spice of life... sad.

Much better circumstances to grow nowadays, the paranoia of growing back then was a serious mind effer. SUper high and happy and constantly worried enough to not enjoy it as much as I couldve.
I'm not paranoid even though it's illegal here cause you would never know I grow. I enjoy every minute of it now. Even the Oh shit moments. Those I love. I learn more when I have those.

Little bonus sneak peak today.

Got a fantastic light box for taking photos and videos with that I'm going to try out on some of Sandy and the rest but until then, I just wanted to drop some non-scoped, non-flash, took in the kitchen on the counter this evening with no good light photos of just a little smackeral of a nug of Sandy's, my @CannaPot Cookies Haze.

Cookies Haze trochomes.jpg
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Cookies Haze Trichomes.jpg
Trichomes down to the stem

Just goes to show how you can see this just by holding it up to the naked eye, how crazy these trichomes get. How covered and sticky these buds become. It's a shame I can't tell you how much the smoke is just that much more medicinal. It's that really, above all this pretty gnarly stuff, that keeps me doing what I'm doing.

For those days like yesterday when I couldn't settle down at 2AM, I finally rolled up some of her and before I knew it I could feel my breathing slow down, my heart rate decrease, my shakes subside, my head was finally quiet.

My problem guys and this is why I do what I do, is that I am here there and everywhere. This is good until I go manic and then the thoughts in my head. There's so many its like a cluster fuck, for lack of better terminology. The memories, the way back memories, the unease, the confusion, the emotional scale being so uneven.

No drug I was ever given by big pharma (and believe me, it was a lot...could name you most on the market I've been on) could stop that feeling in my head. They would slow me down to a screeching hault-I was nearly catatonic. I remember some meds I couldn't even speak after taking them, my brain and my body were not in sync. Others made me feel absolutely nothing at all.

What kind of life is that?

Sometimes I forget that I have the magic right under my fingertips. You think I'd smoke as soon as this happens to me but by that point, I'm already lost in it. I have to wait for a break, a mindfulness window to appear in the hurricane that's in my head.

And then I smoke this droughted bud and everything is better. Everything down to the swelling of arthritis in my joints, the heaviness in my lower back, the anxiety in my chest....

It's doing something for me that nothing and no one else could and I'm doing it now on my own and that's something remarkable.

Check in later with Day 5 for Maestro
 
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