Droughting and its medicinal effects in cannabis

[Krissi Carbone]

that is so YUMMY. I'm at 2.5 weeks

Delicious. You guys have dabbled, yes?



I'm so happy you were satisfied with your results!

 

[Stunger]

Guys I haven't forgotten about this...

I've had several incidents including just Sunday,with a debilitating shoulder injury so I wanted to just say ill be back soon. Probably more since I can't do much with the girls lifiting and what not, so some discussions will be on the horizon.

Hey Krissi, just yesterday I went looking for this thread as I often seem to get dropped off notifications of threads, I thought it was because I hadn't been contributing much, but that's only because my plants haven't yet reached a suitable 'drought window'. I was so pleased that you were sharing Maritimer's efforts and had created this thread, but thankfully I found the thread was still there and it hadn't disappeared! I hope your shoulder is improving a lot now and you're getting some relief. Great stuff!

I will say that after this first experiment, I am very impressed. The trichome development through the drought was incredible, so much so that I am trying it a second time on a long running plant. Right now I am just waiting for the amber to get where it needs to be and I will pull these plants, not without taking some good pictures of the results. I can't wait to try this on some better managed plants, but I will say that it took some plants from the point of being mediocre at best, to wow, in just 11 days.

That's great Emilya, please post a pic or three when you have some to show of how it went for you. Awesome that you found a good result!

 

[Mlburk1]

you have too ! only way to be sure it's ok

 

[Skunksta]

Loving it

You're awesome for that open mind and appreciate you going out on the coco limb for us Skunk!

Nothing noticeable YET.
But i do tend to feed reg so she wil have some stored up food.
And tied her up , kills me to see all those hanging bud pics.
Also dont tend to get to much yellowing on my grows as i feed till the end.
So this will be heart breaking to watch this first time.
Bag ready bud was the aim.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Hey Krissi, just yesterday I went looking for this thread as I often seem to get dropped off notifications of threads, I thought it was because I hadn't been contributing much, but that's only because my plants haven't yet reached a suitable 'drought window'. I was so pleased that you were sharing Maritimer's efforts and had created this thread, but thankfully I found the thread was still there and it hadn't disappeared! I hope your shoulder is improving a lot now and you're getting some relief. Great stuff!

I can't even say I'm going to try to walk in his footsteps but I sure did and intend to keep the promise that I will continue to spread this knowledge to as many people as I can through sharing, communicating and being open with one another and to new things! His work and dedication is a blessing to me and so many others. Can't wait to see what you add to the discussion when it's time!

That's great Emilya, please post a pic or three when you have some to show of how it went for you. Awesome that you found a good result!

Yes, absolutely! Can't wait to see Emmy!

you have too ! only way to be sure it's ok

Consensus?

Nothing noticeable YET.
But i do tend to feed reg so she wil have some stored up food.
And tied her up , kills me to see all those hanging bud pics.
Also dont tend to get to much yellowing on my grows as i feed till the end.
So this will be heart breaking to watch this first time.
Bag ready bud was the aim.

Skunk,

Hardest thing for me was to see them not pretty. Still is. First time it ripped at my green heart strings. Second time, just a few. After that, one kinda nestles me into a hug every now and then for some loving but I've grown to accept and see their beauty even in that form...primarily because I know what's coming in those gnarly buds, secondly because I've gotten to see her/them, in all their glory up until the drought. Balance things.

Looking forward to seeing, hearing and discussing your findings!

 

[Mlburk1]

^^ my best so far I think ^^

 

[Hash Hound]

I found this thread just in time to test it on my Bubba Kush x Widow.
She does not like being topped. She didn't show hairs till week 5 so I let her go to 12.
At week 10 I watered her good although I couldn't measure a leaf angle due to a defol but she went 11 days no problem.
I watered and then harvested 3 days later.

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• Feb 5, 2022

 

[Krissi Carbone]

^^ my best so far I think ^^

Liar. You know it is lol

I found this thread just in time to test it on my Bubba Kush x Widow.
She does not like being topped. She didn't show hairs till week 5 so I let her go to 12.
At week 10 I watered her good although I couldn't measure a leaf angle due to a defol but she went 11 days no problem.
I watered and then harvested 3 days later.

P178 BKW2 w12d.jpg

• Hash Hound
• Feb 5, 2022

P178 BKW2 w12de.jpg

• Hash Hound
• Feb 5, 2022

It looks amazing! Bet you can't wait to smoke her. Did you notice anything through the process? Any notable notables you wanted to add? What made you lean towards testing out this method? So happy and grateful you did!

 

[PlanetJ]

So far I remain willing to be convinced, but very skeptical

Thats exactly where I am with this, and not willing enough to try for myself.
There are a few studies that seem to suggest a marginal effect that is repeatable, but depends highly on strain of lavender used (yah, that was on lavender) and doesnt seem to hold true for all plants.

Based on that alone I'm following, but untill I see a side by side that demonstrates an effect that rises above noise, it's not for me.

 

[Azimuth]

Thats exactly where I am with this, and not willing enough to try for myself.
There are a few studies that seem to suggest a marginal effect that is repeatable, but depends highly on strain of lavender used (yah, that was on lavender) and doesnt seem to hold true for all plants.

Based on that alone I'm following, but untill I see a side by side that demonstrates an effect that rises above noise, it's not for me.

Doesn't have to be for you. Kind of like bud washing. Most of those that have done it will never not do it again, but there are some who can't imagine why one would do it.

It's a big tent. Plenty of room for different styles and processes.

 

[Hash Hound]

It looks amazing! Bet you can't wait to smoke her. Did you notice anything through the process? Any notable notables you wanted to add? What made you lean towards testing out this method? So happy and grateful you did!

you bet I can't wait, and I'm low on smoke too
I gave it a try because I found this thread as I was approaching the time to do it. Plus I'm addicted to experimenting.
One thing I noticed and was glad of was the absence of bud rot on those thick buds. However the room has been below 30% humidity with the furnace running so much.

there are some who can't imagine why one would do it.

outside to wash off bugs, bug poop, miscellaneous crud.
indoor to was off foliar sprays, especially when growing high brix

 

[Mlburk1]

"Liar. You know it is lol " I have at least two more weeks of cure to call it you like me know it is

 

[PlanetJ]

Doesn't have to be for you. Kind of like bud washing. Most of those that have done it will never not do it again, but there are some who can't imagine why one would do it.

It's a big tent. Plenty of room for different styles and processes.

Not sure what your point is, I did not say others shouldnt have fun with it, did I?

I dont agree that it is like bud washing. I tried that based on the fact that washing produce is nothing new, and if you dont try, you dont know. I wont do it again, it makes no sense in my mind, if you grow indoors and dont use foliar sprays. Cant wash anything off that didnt get on there first.

There was no difference in taste, but it took longer to dry. Any effects noticed are likely due to that Im betting. So not sure what to say to that either.

Im watching here out of curiosity, and would love someone to do a side by side so there is a little more value than 'look at me almost killing my plant and then saving her and she still finished good'. I'm happy to eat those words, when there is a solid reason to. If anything, I'm hoping someone picks it up as a 'I will show them nay-sayers and doubters'.

I looked into it, its a bit of a mess in hydro to get this going, and so I cant test it myself. I would otherwise .. I'm all for figuring out new things for our hobby based on scientific studies in related fields, so I'm not even against this or saying its not working, Im just wondering if anybody has ever truly tested this beyond the huge dopamine hit when their starving plants recover and are still ok for harvest. I dont 'see' a noticeable difference that makes me scratch my head how that was achieved .. so yah, I just coined in to spur someone to do less words on this, and more data.

Not gonna reply further, dont wanna start a complete argument and derail things here, and this might already do that, but I dont think it is fair to put that the way you just did as if Im somehow saying people shouldnt be wasting their time. I wont be devoting my time to it is all Im saying, and I still find it interesting enough to watch this topic and comment every now and then. I not replying to each post how good this is, what I think about it, so meh.

Peace.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Not sure what your point is, I did not say others shouldnt have fun with it, did I?

I dont agree that it is like bud washing. I tried that based on the fact that washing produce is nothing new, and if you dont try, you dont know. I wont do it again, it makes no sense in my mind, if you grow indoors and dont use foliar sprays. Cant wash anything off that didnt get on there first.

There was no difference in taste, but it took longer to dry. Any effects noticed are likely due to that Im betting. So not sure what to say to that either.

Im watching here out of curiosity, and would love someone to do a side by side so there is a little more value than 'look at me almost killing my plant and then saving her and she still finished good'. I'm happy to eat those words, when there is a solid reason to. If anything, I'm hoping someone picks it up as a 'I will show them nay-sayers and doubters'.

I looked into it, its a bit of a mess in hydro to get this going, and so I cant test it myself. I would otherwise .. I'm all for figuring out new things for our hobby based on scientific studies in related fields, so I'm not even against this or saying its not working, Im just wondering if anybody has ever truly tested this beyond the huge dopamine hit when their starving plants recover and are still ok for harvest. I dont 'see' a noticeable difference that makes me scratch my head how that was achieved .. so yah, I just coined in to spur someone to do less words on this, and more data.

Not gonna reply further, dont wanna start a complete argument and derail things here, and this might already do that, but I dont think it is fair to put that the way you just did as if Im somehow saying people shouldnt be wasting their time. I wont be devoting my time to it is all Im saying, and I still find it interesting enough to watch this topic and comment every now and then. I not replying to each post how good this is, what I think about it, so meh.

Peace.

No need for an argument, you quoted Em but before she tried this herself so I wanted to point this comment out to you...

I will say that after this first experiment, I am very impressed. The trichome development through the drought was incredible, so much so that I am trying it a second time on a long running plant. Right now I am just waiting for the amber to get where it needs to be and I will pull these plants, not without taking some good pictures of the results. I can't wait to try this on some better managed plants, but I will say that it took some plants from the point of being mediocre at best, to wow, in just 11 days.

Other than that Planet J, again, I and no one here is trying to push you any one way or another. It is up to you. Information is readily available and we have many that are offering up their plants for the sake of research and hopes that by integrating this process, better things will come from our harvested nuggets.

If personal account and testimony is not enough nor scientific data and research, to urge you to attempt this in at least one grow, so be it. No hard feelings at all. No need for an argument. No need to condemn one another's thoughts on the matter.

I appreciate you remaining curious and that was all I had asked of all of you since the beginning.

Much grow love all

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Doesn't have to be for you. Kind of like bud washing. Most of those that have done it will never not do it again, but there are some who can't imagine why one would do it.

It's a big tent. Plenty of room for different styles and processes.

Thanks brother. Always appreciate you chiming in with your thoughts

you bet I can't wait, and I'm low on smoke too

Oh super anxious!

I gave it a try because I found this thread as I was approaching the time to do it. Plus I'm addicted to experimenting.
One thing I noticed and was glad of was the absence of bud rot on those thick buds. However the room has been below 30% humidity with the furnace running so much.

I understand have a problem drying here with low humidity also friend

outside to wash off bugs, bug poop, miscellaneous crud.
indoor to was off foliar sprays, especially when growing high brix

Bud washing I haven't tried yet but certainly am not against by any means!

"Liar. You know it is lol " I have at least two more weeks of cure to call it you like me know it is

Lmao you're funny!

 

[PlanetJ]

If personal account and testimony is not enough nor scientific data and research, to urge you to attempt this in at least one grow, so be it.

It urged me to look into it, and find out I need some kind of special RO filter and chemicals in my res to lock out water uptake, and if I muck that up, im smoking chemicals. So yah.

A single plant or a group of plants, without a control, is not really data, it's an anecdote. And while I absolutely know fur sure that people here have more experience than me growing, I also know for sure that I am not going back to soil without a clear idea of the benefit over not doing it. I had constant issues in soil that all went away when I went to hydro .. it's gonna take quite a huge improvement over not doing it for me the start that adventure.

If I had spare room, I would probably start a soil grow, but I have 3 that supply my own need, and if one is to fail, Im smoking bullshit that is priced at 15 euro per gram, harvested too soon, dried too quick and has god knows what shit on it that makes it taste funny. I love how the plants rebound, and how they seem to do a second flowering almost, and I can imagine that putting a bit of extra weight on, but would it be enough to invest in pest free rooms? Not sure.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

It urged me to look into it, and find out I need some kind of special RO filter and chemicals in my res to lock out water uptake, and if I muck that up, im smoking chemicals. So yah.

A single plant or a group of plants, without a control, is not really data, it's an anecdote. And while I absolutely know fur sure that people here have more experience than me growing, I also know for sure that I am not going back to soil without a clear idea of the benefit over not doing it. I had constant issues in soil that all went away when I went to hydro .. it's gonna take quite a huge improvement over not doing it for me the start that adventure.

If I had spare room, I would probably start a soil grow, but I have 3 that supply my own need, and if one is to fail, Im smoking bullshit that is priced at 15 euro per gram, harvested too soon, dried too quick and has god knows what shit on it that makes it taste funny. I love how the plants rebound, and how they seem to do a second flowering almost, and I can imagine that putting a bit of extra weight on, but would it be enough to invest in pest free rooms? Not sure.

I absolutely understand your logic and there's times for different seasons and inconsistent variables and both personal and environmental conditions or accommodations along with fears, questions, and curiosity. I feel like we are all on a scale so to speak on all things. Some are slid further up or down on that scale than others. It's that balance that keeps this whole thing functioning the way it does. It's why so many lines of communication continue to evolve just from one single question or thought-and it makes someone else wonder and so on and so forth. That's the cool thing about this. For everyone's own reasons, they are in or out but at least available to and open for discussion which I find to be enlightening in itself.

Happy smoking bud and to all the other I don't know-ers for real

 

[Azimuth]

Not sure what your point is, I did not say others shouldnt have fun with it, did I?

I dont agree that it is like bud washing. I tried that based on the fact that washing produce is nothing new, and if you dont try, you dont know. I wont do it again, it makes no sense in my mind, if you grow indoors and dont use foliar sprays. Cant wash anything off that didnt get on there first.

There was no difference in taste, but it took longer to dry. Any effects noticed are likely due to that Im betting. So not sure what to say to that either.

Im watching here out of curiosity, and would love someone to do a side by side so there is a little more value than 'look at me almost killing my plant and then saving her and she still finished good'. I'm happy to eat those words, when there is a solid reason to. If anything, I'm hoping someone picks it up as a 'I will show them nay-sayers and doubters'.

I looked into it, its a bit of a mess in hydro to get this going, and so I cant test it myself. I would otherwise .. I'm all for figuring out new things for our hobby based on scientific studies in related fields, so I'm not even against this or saying its not working, Im just wondering if anybody has ever truly tested this beyond the huge dopamine hit when their starving plants recover and are still ok for harvest. I dont 'see' a noticeable difference that makes me scratch my head how that was achieved .. so yah, I just coined in to spur someone to do less words on this, and more data.

Not gonna reply further, dont wanna start a complete argument and derail things here, and this might already do that, but I dont think it is fair to put that the way you just did as if Im somehow saying people shouldnt be wasting their time. I wont be devoting my time to it is all Im saying, and I still find it interesting enough to watch this topic and comment every now and then. I not replying to each post how good this is, what I think about it, so meh.

Peace.

My point was that you stated reasons you wouldn't try it and I merely suggested that we're not here to convince you or anyone to try it but rather laying out various experiments and experiences from those who have. Believe it helps, don't believe it helps, whatever. That's up to you.

As for bud washing, I grow indoors and the amount of crap I take off my oscillating fan and extract filter tells me that stuff is floating around in the air and is not something I want to ingest. So, I wash my buds and that is why. Again, doesn't mean I think you or anyone else should do it. I share my experience and reasons for it so others can consider it as an option or not for themselves.

 

[Emilya Green]

My 5 LSD plants have just been moved to the 36 hours of darkness, having shown me 2% amber in the very top growth. One of the plants died and is simply drying out and turning brown as we wait for the other plants to finish up. The other 4 have definitely responded to the drought by growing more trichomes and enhancing the ones that were there. I have no before and after pictures because my camera is acting up and I just wasn't proud of the plants that I ended up with. Notes to myself include being sure to not do early droughts and to take thrips a lot more seriously in the future. All in all, provided the peroxide gets rid of most of the thrips, I am not very proud of this harvest and am glad that I have another one coming in about 45 days. The next round is already 2 days into the flip and I expect a much better showing from the 3 Bushmans and 2 Amnesias in that round. I am spraying every 2-3 days with SNS 203 and regularly putting SNS 209 in the water, and I am sure that with a good effort, I can get rid of the bugs well before harvest this time. As soon as they are available, I will be bringing in a herd of ladybugs to help in the grow rooms too.

So all of my pictures are flawed by the blurry spot in the middle of my lens. I will add some microscope pictures this evening. Without the added trichomes that happened because of the 11 day drought, I would be considering throwing out this batch, but I think the drought may have saved them and turned it into at least B quality pot. I won't know until its washed, dried and cured a bit, but I am actually excited to smoke some of this and see what really happened.

Here is my prize plant, all bent over after the drought, ugly, but sporting some pretty good looking buds once all the yuck is cleared away.

Here are a few bad closeup shots of the buds, and please excuse the quality... I am working on the camera situation.

 

[Joe Brewster]

My Sweet Zombie before chop
grown in 4x4 with 2 other plants under 325 watts homebuilt leds
in sunshine #4 , Holland secret nutes