Doc Bud: All Organic OG Kush SCROG

[Vapedogg223]

This looks like it's going to be yet another spectacular journal Doc! I am honored to be along for the ride.

 

[onegramperwat]

Super soil in other half of garden? Do u feel a trellis is an upgrade? Snowstom? The mineral additive looks very interesting. Does the super soil have an abudance of micro nutes already? I use the same molassis with worm casting and Humisoil. Plants dig teas! Need a real good microscope to look at beneficials. Without it im guessing theres a few billion goodies swimming around.

Awesome job on plants, One more question are having to ph water?

 

[Tacomang]

This is amazing Doc, I love your journals and I am looking forward to following this one. I used a similar approach with my soil outdoor in 5g buckets. Watered with... water. And added comp/worm tea when needed. Funny that chocolate thai is frosting already. I ran a finnicky little oregon purple thai that only yielded like 6oz outdoor but the leaves frosted immediately. Good stuff!

 

[Doc Bud]

Super soil in other half of garden? Do u feel a trellis is an upgrade? Snowstom? The mineral additive looks very interesting. Does the super soil have an abudance of micro nutes already? I use the same molassis with worm casting and Humisoil. Plants dig teas! Need a real good microscope to look at beneficials. Without it im guessing theres a few billion goodies swimming around.

Awesome job on plants, One more question are having to ph water?

Hey bro! Yes, the other half of the garden is Super Soil, slightly modified from SubCool's recipe, but very close overall.

The trellis isn't an upgrade, it's necessary equipment to grow OG Kush. The true OG can't stand up on it's own, so you need some type of system to hold the plants up. It just so happens that my close friend has been growing this strain every way imaginable for 15 years, and he has found that a SCROG yield the best results, with a certain type of pruning.

My soil is so full of beneficials you could probably hear them with a stethoscope.....I use a tea every other watering. Last watering before this one was Vermitea, molasses, seabird guano and Alfalfa Meal. Brewed it for 36 hours. This watering we gave some carbs and a few micro's, mainly for the silica and sulfur. The soil already has tons of micro's in it. I did not add CalMag to the RO because of it.

I have pH'd water, checked pH or checked runoff for over a year. I don't check PPM's for feeding either, but sometimes I do when I'm trying to dial in a certain type of water.

I often let 10 gallons of RO sit with that Pyro-gro for a few days, stirring it daily. It makes a very interesting low PPM water.....like about 100PPM, very mild.

I always use snowstorm. My resin production is above average as a result of that product and a few others.

 

[Doc Bud]

This looks like it's going to be yet another spectacular journal Doc! I am honored to be along for the ride.

I'm honored to have YOU along for the ride!

This is amazing Doc, I love your journals and I am looking forward to following this one. I used a similar approach with my soil outdoor in 5g buckets. Watered with... water. And added comp/worm tea when needed. Funny that chocolate thai is frosting already. I ran a finnicky little oregon purple thai that only yielded like 6oz outdoor but the leaves frosted immediately. Good stuff!

The Thai genetics are strong and frosty.....I like 'em!

 

[LeafLady]

Getting prepared for this THC snowstorm!

 

[onegramperwat]

Hey bro! Yes, the other half of the garden is Super Soil, slightly modified from SubCool's recipe, but very close overall.

The trellis isn't an upgrade, it's necessary equipment to grow OG Kush. The true OG can't stand up on it's own, so you need some type of system to hold the plants up. It just so happens that my close friend has been growing this strain every way imaginable for 15 years, and he has found that a SCROG yield the best results, with a certain type of pruning.

My soil is so full of beneficials you could probably hear them with a stethoscope.....I use a tea every other watering. Last watering before this one was Vermitea, molasses, seabird guano and Alfalfa Meal. Brewed it for 36 hours. This watering we gave some carbs and a few micro's, mainly for the silica and sulfur. The soil already has tons of micro's in it. I did not add CalMag to the RO because of it.

I have pH'd water, checked pH or checked runoff for over a year. I don't check PPM's for feeding either, but sometimes I do when I'm trying to dial in a certain type of water.

I often let 10 gallons of RO sit with that Pyro-gro for a few days, stirring it daily. It makes a very interesting low PPM water.....like about 100PPM, very mild.

I always use snowstorm. My resin production is above average as a result of that product and a few others.

Thanks for the awesome info! That snowstorm ultra looks very good and affordable. Humbolt nutrients has a product called DueceDuece. 0-0-22. Do u think its too high?

 

[Doc Bud]

Thanks for the awesome info! That snowstorm ultra looks very good and affordable. Humbolt nutrients has a product called DueceDuece. 0-0-22. Do u think its too high?

Too high in what medium?

If it's pure potassium hydroxide, it's nearly bleach strength. You need to be careful with stuff like that.

 

[snowskate328]

On Organics!!

Things are looking pretty good and those buds are looking amazing!!
Can't wait to see more!!

 

[snowskate328]

Thanks for the awesome info! That snowstorm ultra looks very good and affordable. Humbolt nutrients has a product called DueceDuece. 0-0-22. Do u think its too high?

I use Duece Duece... It is quite strong but just use a small amount and you should be fine. I used it during floweirng on my first grow and plants came out pretty nice. I'm using it now on my second grow and no problems with it yet.

 

[onegramperwat]

Doc, Is organics sweeter tasting than synthetics?

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc, Is organics sweeter tasting than synthetics?

Disclaimer: smoked one packed bowl of Columbian Gold and then another with 1/2 CG and 1/2 Jack Herer......so I'm gonna ramble, pontificate, dispense unsolicited advice, tell fish stories, etc.

I'll be able to give you a much better answer in about 80 days when my organic OG Kush is ready. I'll then have a superbly grown hydro product to match it to.

However, here are my observations so far:

Organic tastes more complex, sometimes earthy and thick. Floral qualities are enhanced with organics, while the dank/stink is a bit lessened. The smoke tends to be very smooth and the actual taste of the smoke is mild. The flavor comes on exhale and with the smoke in the room.

You rarely cough. The organics have consistently burned to a light grey ash. This covers taste.

The effects are slightly different with the Jack Herer cut I grow often. The OC+ in soil jack is super nice, clean, upbeat....just fantastic. But the organic Jack is all that except....how do I put this....the effect of the organics is un-pixilated. It's smoother around the edges and you can't sense a vibration in your head....no buzzing....just a really smooth very natural high feeling. More like you've been put right....not F-d up, stoned, baked, etc.

This "put right" effect is even more pronounced with the Columbian Gold. I don't have a chemical version to compare it to, but the effect of this is so dang pure it feels like sunlight inside your head. Smooth as silk, warm and happy.

I think only organics really brings out the subtleties like that. But for raw horsepower, I think the hydro stuff is actually stronger if done right. But it's not as kind.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Disclaimer: smoked one packed bowl of Columbian Gold and then another with 1/2 CG and 1/2 Jack Herer......so I'm gonna ramble, pontificate, dispense unsolicited advice, tell fish stories, etc.

I'll be able to give you a much better answer in about 80 days when my organic OG Kush is ready. I'll then have a superbly grown hydro product to match it to.

However, here are my observations so far:

Organic tastes more complex, sometimes earthy and thick. Floral qualities are enhanced with organics, while the dank/stink is a bit lessened. The smoke tends to be very smooth and the actual taste of the smoke is mild. The flavor comes on exhale and with the smoke in the room.

You rarely cough. The organics have consistently burned to a light grey ash. This covers taste.

The effects are slightly different with the Jack Herer cut I grow often. The OC+ in soil jack is super nice, clean, upbeat....just fantastic. But the organic Jack is all that except....how do I put this....the effect of the organics is un-pixilated. It's smoother around the edges and you can't sense a vibration in your head....no buzzing....just a really smooth very natural high feeling. More like you've been put right....not F-d up, stoned, baked, etc.

This "put right" effect is even more pronounced with the Columbian Gold. I don't have a chemical version to compare it to, but the effect of this is so dang pure it feels like sunlight inside your head. Smooth as silk, warm and happy.

I think only organics really brings out the subtleties like that. But for raw horsepower, I think the hydro stuff is actually stronger if done right. But it's not as kind.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

Ha ha! I'm only working on my 1st bowl of White Widow and you sound much clearer than I probably will, but I had to say, that was a super explanation of the subtle differences between organics and synthetics. +Reps brother!

Do you think you might prefer one over the other depending on your mood, or would you always opt for the more refined organics?

 

[Doc Bud]

Ha ha! I'm only working on my 1st bowl of White Widow and you sound much clearer than I probably will, but I had to say, that was a super explanation of the subtle differences between organics and synthetics. +Reps brother!

Do you think you might prefer one over the other depending on your mood, or would you always opt for the more refined organics?

that's a good question. It really depends on the strain.....overall, I prefer the milder taste of properly grown and cured organic weed. However, if you could try my friend's OG Kush, I guarantee you'd say it was some of the best you'd ever seen, and it's all hydro grown. But the taste is huge....not subtle....gigantic.

However, what I find, is that overall, the organic stuff is much more smooth, both in taste and effect.

This might not make sense.....and I'm 100% sober, I don't toke till 9PM except on rare occasions on the weekend or on vacation....but organic weed effects you slightly differently.

I feel a buzzing in my head and sometimes my body with strong hydro weed. If you're an audiophile, and you remember when CD's and digital audio first came out, you'll recall that the highs sound artificial when you listen on a really good system. That artificial sound is due to "sampling rate," which basically means that the old digital code "sampled" the sound 20 times a second, while the human ear "samples" at 1000times per second. (numbers not accurate, for illustration only).

Well, the organic weed is like live music, while the hydro weed is like digital....the organic stuff is more authentic. It's like a really nice graphic compared to actually being there and seeing, smelling, tasting with your own eyes, nose and mouth.

I've only gotten the "put right" type of high with organic weed. It's better felt than telt.....if you were here I could easily show you what I'm talking about....

 

[OrganicTreees]

I have to agree with what you're saying about organic vs synthetic. I've grown with both and the organic always produces a cleaner smoother end product. I find the flavors to be enhanced with organics, but like you said not as strong. The flavor tastes more natural, somewhat comparable to eating fruit instead of a fruit syrup, not as strong, but more natural.

The high I've found to be a bit stronger with organics, it could be my growing style and experience, but that's just what I've noticed personally.

 

[Doc Bud]

I have to agree with what you're saying about organic vs synthetic. I've grown with both and the organic always produces a cleaner smoother end product. I find the flavors to be enhanced with organics, but like you said not as strong. The flavor tastes more natural, somewhat comparable to eating fruit instead of a fruit syrup, not as strong, but more natural.

The high I've found to be a bit stronger with organics, it could be my growing style and experience, but that's just what I've noticed personally.

Yep, we're on the same page. My organic stuff is quite strong....most people who try it comment on potency.

I'm comparing it to the very best hydro weed I've ever come across, which is stronger than my products. I'm sure the THC level is higher with my friend's hydro product....but his is unusually good.

Your fresh fruit vs fruit syrup analogy is perfect! + reps.

 

[snowskate328]

Yep, we're on the same page. My organic stuff is quite strong....most people who try it comment on potency.

I'm comparing it to the very best hydro weed I've ever come across, which is stronger than my products. I'm sure the THC level is higher with my friend's hydro product....but his is unusually good.

Your fresh fruit vs fruit syrup analogy is perfect! + reps.

I grow organic and when people try my meds out they always say how much they like organic over synthetic. I do like hydro grown but a lot of people that live around me don't seem to flush so it almost always tastes like chemicals still. But when its flushed and cured its still some of the best buds i've smoked!

 

[OrganicTreees]

yeah the hydro grown stuff around here isn't that good, usually tastes really harsh and leaves a lot to be desired. I still wouldn't call myself a pro so I'm certain my synthetically nuted plants weren't grown to their full potential. In this aspect, I find organics to be easier to grow with, there is less adjustment, less room for error.

I have some SLH finishing up that is looking to be my best batch of it yet, smells like a fresh box of fruit loops

 

[snowskate328]

yeah the hydro grown stuff around here isn't that good, usually tastes really harsh and leaves a lot to be desired. I still wouldn't call myself a pro so I'm certain my synthetically nuted plants weren't grown to their full potential. In this aspect, I find organics to be easier to grow with, there is less adjustment, less room for error.

I have some SLH finishing up that is looking to be my best batch of it yet, smells like a fresh box of fruit loops

Im so excited I just ordered SLH. Can't wait to grow it!!

 

[OrganicTreees]

its good stuff man, I've had it around for about 6 months now, I have nothing bad to say about it