Dogwash
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This is kind of my job - i work in a clinic using trans cranial magnetic stimulation to treat mental health issues
I've wondered about using magnetic fields to stimulate plant growth
Do Electrified Plants Grow Faster? Let's Find Out!
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This is kind of my job - i work in a clinic using trans cranial magnetic stimulation to treat mental health issues
I've wondered about using magnetic fields to stimulate plant growth
Hey that's cool Dogwash.
A friend bought me this PEMF device for home use from a Russian medical device supplier. It actually came with several other devices used in combination with the actual PEMF producing device depending on the particular ailment you intended to remedy. It also had the Earthing/Grounding device and a Tens device. Think that's what it's called it? Produces electrode-stimulation to target and relive pain.
Anyway I really believe the thing works when I've got it out and used it.
He sent it to me when I was having some anxiety issues. Only I didn't use it right away. Discovered before I did that I should just stop drinking a whole pot of coffee before noon, no more Energy drinks in the afternoon and uh, maybe lay off the Chronic Sativas a bit to.
But I used it when I had a broken leg and when my Doc would take cast off two weeks early I cut off myself at home. Then used it again Migraines, the only time in my life I've every had them. after 5 days treatment they were gone...a friend of mine swears it was that dose of shooms he gave me the last day. But the migraines were already much less frequent and intensity by day5. I'm sure a few days treatment it would have gotten rid of them on it's own.
I feel like I could really go on a rant about "approved" use's of various treatments in the USA, but I won't...lol
If people don't do their own research they'll never learn about effective alternative treatments.
PS...I would never have know how to use the device and in what combination for what application/ailment, but I found a Russian overlay for my keyboard on amazon so I could type the right letters into google translate. Took a lot of patience...so glad I translated it before the Migraine incident...lol
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Emilya Green
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(flower, day 49)
Greetings everyone... sorry about the lack of updates lately, but I really haven't had anything that I felt I could report. Until week 5 I could really discern no difference between the electrified plants and their sisters... or at least not that I could really document. I did previously report that there were slightly more bud sites on the charged up plants, but that was about the extent of it... nothing else seemed to definitely show what we were looking for.
Two weeks has made a big difference. The buds are now swelling and doing that end of life thing all over the tent, and again, just as we saw with our first Grilled Cheese, the trichomes have gone nuts on the electrified plants. The last bud stretch seems to be just a bit more dramatic on these plants too... the buds are getting bigger than the control plants are producing.
Here is a little photo study done this morning as the lights came on. For today's photo shoot I put a MH back in the hood, and I think I will finish out this last week with the dual lights, MH and HPS. One plant in the tent is probably done... it is my short runt, and I did expect her to finish early. The rest look like they have about a week or week and a half to go.
In these pictures, the first three are going to be the non-electric versions. The last 3 pictures will show buds from each of the electrified plants. I think you will see the difference.
NON- Electrified Plants:
Electrified Plants:
Greetings everyone... sorry about the lack of updates lately, but I really haven't had anything that I felt I could report. Until week 5 I could really discern no difference between the electrified plants and their sisters... or at least not that I could really document. I did previously report that there were slightly more bud sites on the charged up plants, but that was about the extent of it... nothing else seemed to definitely show what we were looking for.
Two weeks has made a big difference. The buds are now swelling and doing that end of life thing all over the tent, and again, just as we saw with our first Grilled Cheese, the trichomes have gone nuts on the electrified plants. The last bud stretch seems to be just a bit more dramatic on these plants too... the buds are getting bigger than the control plants are producing.
Here is a little photo study done this morning as the lights came on. For today's photo shoot I put a MH back in the hood, and I think I will finish out this last week with the dual lights, MH and HPS. One plant in the tent is probably done... it is my short runt, and I did expect her to finish early. The rest look like they have about a week or week and a half to go.
In these pictures, the first three are going to be the non-electric versions. The last 3 pictures will show buds from each of the electrified plants. I think you will see the difference.
NON- Electrified Plants:
Electrified Plants:
BobbyZ
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Bringing it back from the dead... I had this thought when I learned about grounding recently.
Has anyone ever tried just grounding the plants (makes more sense and more similar to nature)? Run a wire from your ground socket to the plants soil... I might give it a shot on the next grow.
Has anyone ever tried just grounding the plants (makes more sense and more similar to nature)? Run a wire from your ground socket to the plants soil... I might give it a shot on the next grow.
BobbyZ
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Just an example of what I'm thinking...
Jaw Dropping Grounding Experiment on Plants | Epic World Market
Jaw Dropping Grounding Experiment on Plants | Epic World Market
Let me find the posts in my journal...
Starts somewhere here AngryBird's Perpetual Organic Garden, T8 Lights, Homemade Food
( remember Emilya? lol.)
BobbyZ
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That was cool, but not what I'm talking about. I am talking about tuning the plant back to the outside or natural environment by grounding it only, not running electricity to it.
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Emilya Green
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The problem as I see it is that you can ground the soil, which actually is already grounded outside, but you can't ground the plant itself sitting above the soil. By supplying a steady and constant DC charge I believe we were able to blank out or override the background EM radiation that is around all of us in the modern world, at least for these plants... and that might have been the whole reason for the accelerated growth.
BobbyZ
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Well I can get a ground on the plant. Here are a few ugly autos and I’m trying out one. Some old speaker wire and we are off... I’ll have to try seedlings later.
I’m not expecting much.
I’m not expecting much.
Blazinjones
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Well I can get a ground on the plant. Here are a few ugly autos and I’m trying out one. Some old speaker wire and we are off... I’ll have to try seedlings later.
I’m not expecting much.
Kool man sounds like a cool experiment to try out. I'm curious to see how it works with these plants. Also some nice size girls u got there for autos. Every time I've tried autos in soil I never get them to get tall an big like that. What are the strains ur running here and what kinda lights are u using if u dnt mind me asking?
BobbyZ
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Lambs Breath auto from CK in FFOS and a $100 light from China running 18/6. Seems that a plant would benfit. It just make sense to me, but I’m high, what do I know... We’ll see.
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What is Earthing or Grounding?
In short, earthing or grounding is putting the body in direct and uninterrupted contact with the earth. This means that skin needs to touch soil, sand, water, or a conductive surface that is in contact with the earth.
From a scientific perspective, the idea is that the earth has a mild negative charge to it. Over time, especially in modern life, our bodies build up a positive charge. Direct contact with the earth can even out this positive charge and return the body to a neutral state.
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Emilya Green
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I give you an A for effort but your ground connection is there at the, ahhm... ground, like mm away from the actual ground, you know... the ground. lol The problem is that the plant is already effectively grounded through its roots and the plant standing tall above the ground is acting like an antenna for all the stray EM radiation out there. There is so much electromagnetic radiation flowing all around, inbetween and through us these days it would boggle your mind. Throw a 6" wire out from any low current device and I can show you how to power it from the local broadcast stations for free. All of that energy is hitting our plants too, and they being little 2 foot antennas, direct all that energy to ground... you know, where your ground connection is.
It is my belief that the charge that the solar cells put on the container was stronger than the microvolts of radio signal picked up by the liquids in the plant, and probably produced a calm within that plant, no longer able to hear and be influenced by broadcasts of politicians, bad music and nascar races flowing through its system. I only wish my life could be so peaceful.
It is my belief that the charge that the solar cells put on the container was stronger than the microvolts of radio signal picked up by the liquids in the plant, and probably produced a calm within that plant, no longer able to hear and be influenced by broadcasts of politicians, bad music and nascar races flowing through its system. I only wish my life could be so peaceful.
BobbyZ
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No the planet is isolated from the "ahhm... ground". It's in a totally simulated environment and no longer "grounded" to the earth, it's natural environment. Therefore it doesn't receive the natural direct current of the earth. To get that current back, simply ground it. Now I can't claim to know the proper way to ground a plant in a simulated environment, but I understand it is part of their natural environment. So I guess I'll see how important that small factor is.
Latitude17
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Have you considered a faraday cage for your plants, or are you aware of grounding having a better effect? I just stumbled upon this thread and I'm absolutely fascinated.
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Emilya Green
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That is an interesting idea and one that should be investigated... would a plant grow differently while isolated from all of the EM radiation around us? The world wants to know.
BobbyZ
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I haven’t noticed any improvement yet, over the non-grounded plant thus far. Of course I would say the experiment didn’t get a full and fair shot. It was a last minute thought... We are all mad scientist here. Give your experiment a try. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. And they’ll be safe from an EMP...
Grounded plant is now the one to the right of your screen.
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Emilya Green
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I often wonder what my ham station upstairs does to my plants. I run a lot of power sometimes, but I suspect it doesn't bother them. I suspect that the noise from the ballasts when I ran HID interfered with me more than I was affecting them, but who knows... grounding or a faraday cage might have an effect. I should try growing a plant in a shielded room sometime and compare that to one living near a commercial broadcast station.
All of this is fun to consider, but thinking back to the original experiment, what we did with the solar cell is a completely different thing. The charge we introduced into the soil was significantly larger than the microvolts picked up via the airwaves and logically would have a much larger influence on the rhizosphere than any other outside influence. We did notice a change in the plants that still demands further research to determine just exactly what was going on, but I believe that we did indeed prove that something positive was going on. This recent discussion does illustrate something that was missing in the original experiment though, and the next time we visit the solar cell idea we are going to also have one control plant that is effectively grounded to a real earth ground via a metal plate in the bottom of the container.
All of this is fun to consider, but thinking back to the original experiment, what we did with the solar cell is a completely different thing. The charge we introduced into the soil was significantly larger than the microvolts picked up via the airwaves and logically would have a much larger influence on the rhizosphere than any other outside influence. We did notice a change in the plants that still demands further research to determine just exactly what was going on, but I believe that we did indeed prove that something positive was going on. This recent discussion does illustrate something that was missing in the original experiment though, and the next time we visit the solar cell idea we are going to also have one control plant that is effectively grounded to a real earth ground via a metal plate in the bottom of the container.
BobbyZ
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Wouldn’t a tent, lined on all sides with foil, be a faraday cage? The only leak in would be your electrical lines into the tent. And wouldn’t grounding the cage defeat the purpose of a faraday cage?
Never mind, grounding it makes sense. It allows the current a path to follow....
Never mind, grounding it makes sense. It allows the current a path to follow....
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Emilya Green
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surprisingly, what looks like foil on the inside of my tent is not conductive. It is so non reactive even at radio frequencies that I have an indoor 220 mhz jpole antenna mounted on the outside of my tent, so as to get me access to the local repeater from in here. I spend a lot of time in my tent.Wouldn’t a tent, lined on all sides with foil, be a faraday cage? The only leak in would be your electrical lines into the tent. And wouldn’t grounding the cage defeat the purpose of a faraday cage?
And no... a well constructed faraday cage is actually connected to a real earth ground to be most effective. The idea is to shunt all energy around the cage to ground, while isolating the equipment inside.
BobbyZ
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Meh... Getting close and can’t tell much of a difference in size. The grounded plant does appear to mature faster. But this would need to be repeated many times to be validated or have a meaningful application. Grounded plant is to the right with more yellowing...
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