Decoding The Holy Grail: Terpene & Cannabinoid Retention: Decarb to Extraction

CCOiler said:
QUESTION: How many grams of keif extractions equals 1 gram of CCO? :hmmmm:

FOE EXAMPLE: How much keif extractions would I use in Olive oil to match the same amount of 1 gram of CCO? Does the keif extractions melt into the Olive oil the same way that CCO does?

keif extractions will be the best way to keep the Trichomes until more BioBombs are needed.

Thoughts please :Namaste::circle-of-love:

:cco::circle-of-love::cco: Thank you to all of the oilers on this site for all that you do for so many. :Love:
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There are two unknowns here. What is the cannabinoid level in the coco you are using. There is no standard. Also what is the cannabinoid level in the kief you have?

I f this info isn’t available you could start with 1/4 gram of kief in 50 ml of olive oil. You could add more oil to dilute it or add more kief to strengthen it once you have tried it out
 
Oldbear said:
There are two unknowns here. What is the cannabinoid level in the coco you are using. There is no standard. Also what is the cannabinoid level in the kief you have?

I f this info isn’t available you could start with 1/4 gram of kief in 50 ml of olive oil. You could add more oil to dilute it or add more kief to strengthen it once you have tried it out
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Thank you Oldbear,

How would you go about turning kief into CCO? (Mix Kief with alcohol then cook back down?)
 
I have some experience melting kief into olive oil. Same steps as a decarb and extract from flower. In my case that's 110 Minutes @ 220F.

Warm the oil a bit first then add the kief and stir it up. You can take this by mouth, or put it in capsules.

Ive never done an alcohol extraction but I imagine it would be very quick and easy with kief.
 
One more question Oldbear & anybody else:

Does anybody else get red eye when taking the BioBombs?
 
My best guess on keif would be around 70% average cannabinoid content depending on purity.

Infused oils are going to vary depending on the ratio of oil to product among other variables. If you short the carrier oil the concentration goes up along with the amount left behind in the unrecovered oil. I don't know what the upper practical limit on infusions is. However it is not going to be very high, especially when compared to kief or an extract like alcohol.

The CBD plant will probably finish drying tomorrow. It is a smallish plant and a little airy. I would like to divide it in half. Then, dcarb half and keep the other half raw. That is if there is enough to strip something near a gram of cannabinoids out of each and have enough left over for tests. I should be fine, but if it comes in as an ounce or under, I may only be able to run one decarb test.

I made a batch of CBD caps Thursday using half the strain profile CBD I bought. I got 53 and a half caps out of 50ml of coconut oil and lecithin. They should be near 10ml per cap. I have my wife on one cap morning and night. That is about 4 times what she was taking before. I decided to try the same for myself. Subjectively speaking, I have had two slightly better than average days. Without asking, I think Chris has had slightly better days as well.

420 has been moving things around. If someone can point me to the upload images option I will post picks.

I never know
 
Canyon said:
My best guess on keif would be around 70% average cannabinoid content depending on purity.

Infused oils are going to vary depending on the ratio of oil to product among other variables. If you short the carrier oil the concentration goes up along with the amount left behind in the unrecovered oil. I don’t know what the upper practical limit on infusions is. However it is not going to be very high, especially when compared to kief or an extract like alcohol.

The CBD plant will probably finish drying tomorrow. It is a smallish plant and a little airy. I would like to divide it in half. Then, dcarb half and keep the other half raw. That is if there is enough to strip something near a gram of cannabinoids out of each and have enough left over for tests. I should be fine, but if it comes in as an ounce or under, I may only be able to run one decarb test.

I made a batch of CBD caps Thursday using half the strain profile CBD I bought. I got 53 and a half caps out of 50ml of coconut oil and lecithin. They should be near 10ml per cap. I have my wife on one cap morning and night. That is about 4 times what she was taking before. I decided to try the same for myself. Subjectively speaking, I have had two slightly better than average days. Without asking, I think Chris has had slightly better days as well.

420 has been moving things around. If someone can point me to the upload images option I will post picks.

I never know
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Upper right hand corner, choose 420 Entertainment, then 420 Galleries, and that page gives you the option to upload pics.

Good luck with the CBD chemo. May you get what you hope to.

And a hearty :yahoo: about the caps. Canyon........ Well done. :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
CCOiler said:
One more question Oldbear & anybody else:

Does anybody else get red eye when taking the BioBombs?
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How strong? My answer was yes too, but then I was curious as to potency. :laughtwo:
 
Thank you for your answers, does anybody know why or maybe a good guess on the red eye?
 
CCOiler said:
Thank you for your answers, does anybody know why or maybe a good guess on the red eye?
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Cannabinoids reduce the blood pressure. Ocular capillaries dilate, more blood flows to the eyes and intraocular pressure is reduced. This is why cannabis is so good for the treatment of glaucoma
 
Thanks Sue,
CBD isolate is white crystal that is usually sold as a powder. The color and oily appearance is from the terpenes. Under a loop, it does look a lot more crystalline.
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A closer look.
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The concentrate dissolved in worm oil in about a minute. What I did notice was that when the mixture was stirred in good side light it picked reflected light as swirls in the mix. It looked a lot like like it was florescent but you could tell it was reflected light.

According to the half of the chemistry book I am working my way through, reflected light is an indication of a colloidal suspension. Nothing settled out while warm or after overnight refrigeration and rewarming. I did stir the mix while filling the caps just to be cautious. It is just an observation for now.

I love the clean look.
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SweetSue said:
Cannabinoids reduce the blood pressure. Ocular capillaries dilate, more blood flows to the eyes and intraocular pressure is reduced. This is why cannabis is so good for the treatment of glaucoma
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Thank you Sue, Awesome answer :cco::Love::cco:
 
Canyon, they isolate the CBD and then add in terps equivalent to the specific strain, in proper concentration?

That is just f'n cool. :bravo:
 
Canyon said:
I am not sure how they do it. I suspect it is from super critical CO2 extraction. I have seen the red color and look in the better THC extractions.
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I was thinking, it's cool, but a touch of THC potentiates the CBD to such an extent that it's crazy not to have any in there. Wouldn't take much at all, to my understanding. You and the lovely wife probably have enough THC already in your system to do the job, but I was considering those who choose not to use THC at all.

It's still wonderful that they're doing strain specific formulations.
 
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