DD Stable Of Impermanence

Hey Stung

Snap. Exactly the headscratching I was fed up with. Niggling uncertainty about this and that. Life is too short.
It took a lucid moment one day to see a) I had run out of fucks to give. I reached into my bag of fucks and it was empty, and b) a bunch of folk I have huge respect for were having great results with this stuff.

Despite my persistence the 420 hive mind hasn’t let me down yet.

I would also be whakama to let down the people who helped me by letting a random problem get out of control. I want to be able to show my help how much they help.

With the Queen of LOS herself (hail @Emilya) flying the flag.. (IKR?!) that’s another tick on the right side of the ‘organically grown medicine ledger’ right there. She carries a lot of mana up here for sure.


Unless I run a side by side control grow I may not be able to show a straight up yes or no because any Isabelle Reds I run in the foreseeable will be untrained sticks in the corners and that won’t be for another round or two yet.
Already I can say the leaves feel better. Not papery at all, but like the juiciest, freshest leaves you’re lucky enough to find at the farmers’ markets if you get there hella early. The difference is radical. Enough so to get me thinking about getting one of your refractometer jobbies.
If I may..
You guys, yes you dear reader, could do worse than sub up on Stunger’s thread. He’s one clever cookie and grows the c-word like stink!

It’s already here homie. Let me send you a cpl hundred grams and see what you think. PM post deets, eh?
I share your appreciation of the site and the love and sharing that is found here, that makes it a great place, and one that has exposed me to a lot of different angles and considerations that otherwise I'd been totally clueless on. That's all well and good but it is the getting down and doing it where the real experience comes in. I value that on here, the wealth of experience, I have only done a few grows and I am very much learning as I go. I happy to chime for here and there but most things I have only read about. I know nothing about growing indoor or using liquid ferts. I once tried to grow with some Bio-Canna veg and flower with PK13/14 but I managed to mess it up for an unspectacular result. Since then my direction has been on building a living organic style of super soil and training for low height stealth reasons. I would love to grow indoors, but with family who think I am growing chilli plants that never produce any chillis, I can't see how I could locate a tent inside with all the vents and bibs n bobs and either hide it or explain it away. That is what makes this such a good site, the people and threads who support that energy.

With Mega Crop, I had seen it mentioned, but I had somewhat selectively 'tuned out', as I saw myself in the living organic soil (LOS) camp, full respect and interest for all approaches. You mentioned it on your thread but I thought no more of it than someone mentioning any other nute line. But when I happened on to Emilya's thread I was surprised, as last time I was reading her, I thought she was very LOS, so that made me wonder, what's made her change? Of course she is very knowledgable and reading her stuff she is doing so many additional things that at this stage would floor me.

With limited space I only have 4 growing containers, in which the soil I feel I have invested blood sweat and tears into. This year's grow seems to be so far looking encouraging. The real test will be what sort of result I get in 3 months or so, hopefully it is a good one. I need to understand what is Mega Crop best with for outdoor pots, is it soil or just a low nutrient medium like coco?

Up until now, I had been led to view organic as best, nature is best type of thing. Then after last season I read about a Brix approach which some folks who are far more experienced than me felt the smoke quality of High Brix bud even surpassed living organic soil bud, some said their friends all thought so too. I am curious whether there is any difference in 'quality' as well as quantity/health found by people who have changed to Mega Crop. It seems to be getting praise for super healthy plants with good bud size. Me being in NZ, I am used to be there being no choice in strains, and beggars can't be choosers, so as long as the bud gave a good buzz that was about it, and that was the only choice. But for those who have the choice and experience, many of those seem to say at the end of the day it is the quality of the smoke/vapor that they rate the most highly, and some too say they don't care just the more potent the better.:bong:

I have always been aware that there are bud stimulators out there that promise to produce big fat buds or cola enhancement or whatever, but for me, I never paid them heed because I viewed my weed like food or milk, I didn't want a bunch of super enhancer chemicals that I feared perhaps would kick me in some other way. Anyway for those folks who have been of that mindset, I wonder how they feel about the quality of the smoke and edibles from Mega Crop grown plants. It sounds intriguing with the seemingly very healthy growth it supports, and someone mentioned a whole new level of nutrition.

The leaf quality you mention is encouraging. I also wonder how that would go in the High Brix world. There are cheap and perfectly fine Brix refractometers on Trademe for 30 odd dollars these days.

Thanks very much for your offer :adore:, I am sure to take it up :volcano-smiley:, I need to find out a little more on why it is a different thing to the multitude of other lines of nutes out there, why folks like Emilya made the change, and those folks who used to find organic is best who then went to High Brix what do they think, does it promote High Brix grows, for the folks whose tastes have evolved to wanting ideally the highest quality bud, does it deliver for them? If so, it would seem to tick all boxes for folks; healthy vigorous plants, that are high yielding and produce a high quality smoke/edibles? I'll come back to you on that and probably pronto especially if my current grow heads south, cheers.
:passitleft:
 
Hi guys... my ears were burning!
Both of you expressed surprise in that I have for this run moved away from my favored mode of organic soil microbe farming to try out Megacrop, and I feel that I owe you an explanation.
First, I went into this grow as an experiment... I have not yet decided to stop the old tried and true organic supersoil method in the future... at least not yet... but I am being swayed.
I considered Megacrop because I consider it to be the way of the future... the way nutes should have been designed all along. There are NO salt based nutrient programs out there that could have convinced me to try them out... but MegaCrop intrigued me.
I have had 2 goals all along in my growing career.... to find the easiest and most reproducible and cheapest way for medical patients to be able to grow their pot, and to stop making all the decisions for the plant. I believe that our plants grow better if we get out of their way and let them decide what nutes they need and the organic feeding cycle does a great job of this.
So, MegaCrop came along and was cheap... free actually to get going with this first grow. Seeing all the others working with it, it became clear that the great results that people were getting with it were very reproducible. When I began to understand the new technology that created these amino acid chelated nutrients, I was hooked... the process allows the plant to decide for a large part as to how much of each nute it is releasing by supplying the needed amino acids, while inside the plant. Instead of salt breaking down as a waste product, MC's amino acid bonds actually shed away and become additional food for the plant, another selling point... no flushing. Then there is the efficiency of the system carrying those nutes into the plant to consider, without a narrow pH range being necessary to maintain. Then when I learned that growth is expected to be 140% better than growth without nutrients, I could stand it no longer... I had to try MegaCrop.

In my experience, the quality of the pot is cumulative. The better the grow goes from start to finish, the better the overall quality. My MC grow is doing amazing things, and I have to believe that after an entire grow of accelerated growth as I am seeing, the fruit from these plants is going to be outstanding. If this grow ends up being as good or even better than my last few organic grows, this product is going to have my full attention. Organic growing isnt for everyone, and it takes a lot of space, time, money and effort to keep your soils viable. MC looks like it is turning out to be much easier and cheaper, and if so, and if it is truly growing organic quality pot, it WILL become my favorite means to grow this medicine.
 
refractometers on Trademe for 30 odd dollars
Is on te list au. Somewhere down below a rosin press and a bigger tent. Oh yeah.
stop making all the decisions for the plant.
I could not have put that better.
.. the way nutes should have been designed all along.
Making magic happen where the rubber meets the road. At the root/soil synapse. Technology has come a long way. This description of the different actions of amino acid chelates vs straight salts is great. Thanks for posting that Em. Avoiding nutrient lock out and pH issues is great too, but that you can let the plant pick what it wants to a point. Brilliant.

This is what I meant about the 420 hive mind. For me the switch to mc was an obvious one to make. I had become a much better gardener over a few runs, but I had run out of energy for handwringing over nutrient issues. There is an elegance to the simplicity of this side of things now. And thank goodness (by which I mean :420:).

Now 140% growth? I had not heard that.
This is the same tip on a plant (hulklato) two days apart..
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I’m not complaining :)
:meatballs:
 
In other news
I scoped les fleurs and trichomes are 90% full of milky resin now. Very few clear trichs remain. No amber as yet, but that cool breeze in here? That is the harvest window opening.
It won’t be for more than a week yet because I’ve just gone on call. Meh. Rostered off for now though :yahoo: and an early painsomnia has turned in to weekend wakenbake:slide:might get the dogs out for an early blat.
The pix..
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Now here’s Dan with sport..
 
Great journal my well endowed equine brother. Tons of good info and excellent reading. Not to mention those beautiful chilli plants that never seem to produce chilis. Keep up the good work your doing. I'm off to see what the hell Megacrop is. :Rasta::passitleft:
 
Great journal my well endowed equine brother. Tons of good info and excellent reading. Not to mention those beautiful chilli plants that never seem to produce chilis. Keep up the good work your doing. I'm off to see what the hell Megacrop is. :Rasta::passitleft:
Thank you for your undying ups kind sir :high-five:
(Keep coming back, man. The meetings are important) :laugh:
 
Your plants are looking happy as pigs in some slang term for excrement DD! Great growth in the middle of the Hulk and the incoming purple looks sweet in the flower room. Nice :).
Thank you man. Yes they are big and I don’t mind them getting bigger even though they are ready.
Watch out...he'll do it too.
Thanks for flagging that, mate. I suspect you might’ve guessed I’d miss it you’re an observant guy.
I need to understand what is Mega Crop best with for outdoor pots, is it soil or just a low nutrient medium like coco?
Stunger, Shed. Shed, Stunger.
:popcorn:

Hey @Ganjagrandaddy I found out why our HulkLato has been holding back.
I bottom-up fed them 1 litre each last night (@1.1g) then trickled the leftovers around the edges of their pots.
HulkLato drank 750ml through her feet. Neither of the other two managed 500ml.
While the seedsman sisters have been showing off, HulkLato has quietly been taking care of business.
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We’re going to see some sativaction now..

Cheers
:peace::yummy::cool:
 
Stunger, Shed. Shed, Stunger.
Thanks for the intro DD! @Stunger I grow with MegaCrop outside in ProMix HP, but it would be the same for soil. MegaCrop is an all-in-one nutrient that works from sprout to harvest, with the only change being how many grams/gallon you're feeding along the way. I run it by itself. The manufacturer sells boosters, but I haven't found the need to use them. My plants get big and frosty without them, and I've run about 15 plants to harvest on it so far.

I don't want to take over DD's stable with a lot of details, so feel free to stop by my journal with any questions you have.
HulkLato drank 750ml through her feet
:meatballs: (they don't have one of anyone tossing meatballs at roots...sorry!)
 
Hey 420ville. A quick photo drop.
First another hello HulkLato
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She’s getting busy.
I fed the flowers tonight and got some individual shots.
This is one of the Isabelle Purple, she is 2’4” tall.
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Here’s her opposite number, at 2’5”.
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This is the Isabelle Red in the 25 litre/7G bag. She has the spreaders to open her up.
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With her sister in the 35 litre/10G bag back beside her you can see why they say “bigger roots, bigger buds”. I may have to rethink my favourite 17 litre/5G pots I like.
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A canopy view
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Open front
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Canopy
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Another week or two of impermanence for this group. And that’s us for now.
Of all the gardens on 420mag you could be at, I appreciate you dropping in here. Cheers.
:peace: :yummy: :cool:
 
Seriously nice looking plants DD. Interesting the proportional differences in cola quantity and container size. What sort of yield do you hope for from a plant growing in, say, a 35 liter container? Would that be more than what you were getting prior to Mega Crop? I'm hoping I can grow enough this year so I can have enough for the year ahead as well as bank another year's worth to store away. To be honest to prepare for future gardening difficulties I would like to have 5 years banked away! At a pretty bare minimum I reckon I could scrimp by vaping 3 - 4oz over a year, however I'd like to have some spare to try out edibles and tinctures too, So perhaps 8oz would cover that for a year. I am also really interested in the rosin press approach and wonder how efficient or squandering using one of those would be and how much you need to be growing to feed the use of a press.
Nice look to the leaves of the Hulklato.
Is there a strain you've grown that has been a real standout or do you find that they're mostly pretty close?
 
Morning all.
Hulklato two weeks after topping:
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I gave her 1.1g mc in 1 litre just around the edge of her pot, and in her tray. The next day she had pushed out tips three times the size of the day before and she was also suddenly looking more symmetrical.
The same views of the Seedsman girls are here.
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Chugging along now.
Cheers everyone!
:yummy:
All looking happy and killer green in the house Dd. training looks like it's going well too. seeing the Hulklato with some good mains possibilities . nice work
 
Morena Koro :ganjamon:
Seriously nice looking plants
It’s thanks to you, fourstungertwentyetal.
The difference in diameter in those colas is noticeable isn’t it? I was surprised to see it. They’re as solid as hickory too.
The plant in the 35 litre is the one I had planned to still have vegging now - she would fill that tent so tight I wouldn’t need a rosin press! Then the hulklato landed, and the post from Seedsman got through.. the upshot being they all got chucked in there to clear the way, and what should have been a pound-plus plant isn’t but that’s ok :) I’ll grow some big ones sometime.
I’m hoping for 10+ oz/run from now on. I think there’s an ounce and a half in each of the little ones, means I want 3 or 4 from each of the others.
I’ve only started using megacrop these last couple of feeds and only really for the novelty of it. I have bloom nutes, etc to use up, but I.. can’t.. be.. bothered. I did notice a re-greening in the room before senescence brought chlorosis back. So.. interesting.
years banked away!
That is the metric of wealth: time. Without any more inputs how long can you carry on your current lifestyle? Days? Months? Years?
That’s a goal for me too to have years in stock. Shit I’m not just talking about pot either.
I’m happy to make it to harvest still with jar stock. That’s a first. Although I was happy to turn away a dealer sadist the other day I’m not feeling too smug because I’ll be running CBD for the first time and that’s going to impact yield/stock/space/health and, well. Balancing that by running what will hopefully be real fire hit and quit upbeat type daytime meds :nervous-guy:
It’s all a bit unknown again. I’ll be using 3 or 4 oz for capsules usually. We’ll see what sort of volume that turns in to with a press. Will press play on that today.
All looking happy and killer green in the house Dd. training looks like it's going well too. seeing the Hulklato with some good mains possibilities . nice work
:green_heart:
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:thanks:
 
So let me ask you DD. I’ve never ignored anybody. What happens when you ignore someone? Did every post of mine just not show up without you accepting them to or something?:popcorn:
Who said that ??????
 
Hey Stung

Snap. Exactly the headscratching I was fed up with. Niggling uncertainty about this and that. Life is too short.
It took a lucid moment one day to see a) I had run out of fucks to give. I reached into my bag of fucks and it was empty, and b) a bunch of folk I have huge respect for were having great results with this stuff.

Despite my persistence the 420 hive mind hasn’t let me down yet.

I would also be whakama to let down the people who helped me by letting a random problem get out of control. I want to be able to show my help how much they help.

With the Queen of LOS herself (hail @Emilya) flying the flag.. (IKR?!) that’s another tick on the right side of the ‘organically grown medicine ledger’ right there. She carries a lot of mana up here for sure.


Unless I run a side by side control grow I may not be able to show a straight up yes or no because any Isabelle Reds I run in the foreseeable will be untrained sticks in the corners and that won’t be for another round or two yet.
Already I can say the leaves feel better. Not papery at all, but like the juiciest, freshest leaves you’re lucky enough to find at the farmers’ markets if you get there hella early. The difference is radical. Enough so to get me thinking about getting one of your refractometer jobbies.
If I may..
You guys, yes you dear reader, could do worse than sub up on Stunger’s thread. He’s one clever cookie and grows the c-word like stink!

It’s already here homie. Let me send you a cpl hundred grams and see what you think. PM post deets, eh?
A true gro-bro right there , knew i was right about you D. One love brother.
 
Hey 420ville. A quick photo drop.
First another hello HulkLato
FBB26813-9994-453B-9803-B9963A3A227A.jpeg

She’s getting busy.
I fed the flowers tonight and got some individual shots.
This is one of the Isabelle Purple, she is 2’4” tall.
4F7B3F81-5E25-462B-8280-95DDEF4772CE.jpeg

Here’s her opposite number, at 2’5”.
EA5C64B5-70B3-4011-AD9E-0553BA2C0A08.jpeg

This is the Isabelle Red in the 25 litre/7G bag. She has the spreaders to open her up.
DEA9E558-C9BC-41A2-89AD-39C7DEBC0843.jpeg

With her sister in the 35 litre/10G bag back beside her you can see why they say “bigger roots, bigger buds”. I may have to rethink my favourite 17 litre/5G pots I like.
5091B128-0BA6-4C7F-B57B-593F8EE0DBC4.jpeg

A canopy view
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Open front
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Canopy
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Another week or two of impermanence for this group. And that’s us for now.
Of all the gardens on 420mag you could be at, I appreciate you dropping in here. Cheers.
:peace: :yummy: :cool:
She loves the MC. That green is what it's all about. Imagine the quality of the chlorophyll she will be using to grow. Love how well she has staked out and sprouting up too. Just a thought but with the nodes ( secondary pairs ) , I would nip one of each side off to allow the single cola to really hit weight. With 2 at virtually the same place as pairs , it can hamper them both as they fight for light and position not to mention the sharing at the node. I didnt do this with my quads and regretted it after advice. Not that I mean that as a "I say so" thing at all just one I honestly wished i had tried. Asino (quad King)was the one who mentioned it to me I think.She is looking fit and ready though. brilliant job.
Flowering room is looking bang on too mate. love it. Good to see a resolve and issue sorted so simply on here. Am sure it wont be regrettable.
 
Morena Koro :ganjamon:

It’s thanks to you, fourstungertwentyetal.

The difference in diameter in those colas is noticeable isn’t it? I was surprised to see it. They’re as solid as hickory too.
The plant in the 35 litre is the one I had planned to still have vegging now - she would fill that tent so tight I wouldn’t need a rosin press! Then the hulklato landed, and the post from Seedsman got through.. the upshot being they all got chucked in there to clear the way, and what should have been a pound-plus plant isn’t but that’s ok :) I’ll grow some big ones sometime.
I’m hoping for 10+ oz/run from now on. I think there’s an ounce and a half in each of the little ones, means I want 3 or 4 from each of the others.
I’ve only started using megacrop these last couple of feeds and only really for the novelty of it. I have bloom nutes, etc to use up, but I.. can’t.. be.. bothered. I did notice a re-greening in the room before senescence brought chlorosis back. So.. interesting.

That is the metric of wealth: time. Without any more inputs how long can you carry on your current lifestyle? Days? Months? Years?
That’s a goal for me too to have years in stock. Shit I’m not just talking about pot either.
I’m happy to make it to harvest still with jar stock. That’s a first. Although I was happy to turn away a dealer sadist the other day I’m not feeling too smug because I’ll be running CBD for the first time and that’s going to impact yield/stock/space/health and, well. Balancing that by running what will hopefully be real fire hit and quit upbeat type daytime meds :nervous-guy:
It’s all a bit unknown again. I’ll be using 3 or 4 oz for capsules usually. We’ll see what sort of volume that turns in to with a press. Will press play on that today.

:green_heart:
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:thanks:
just perfect Dd. dont be fooled by bushy , these girls get leggy in both parents 1m colas ahead
love the red on those leaf stems too. very arty. doing us parents proud.
 
I would nip one of each side off to allow the single cola to really hit weight.
Great minds somethingmumble.
The first pair of laterals from each main will be cut for clones When They Are Bigger (that was a note2self).
I got a bit ham-fisted-hoofed with some of the recent cuts :rolleyes:
 
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