Dark Devil Auto: A Community Grow Record
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VladimirPutin
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Happy Shatterday DD community!
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glimmergrass
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Thanks, Shiggs! That would be really interesting
Thank you so much for this, bobrown. I do tend to overthink just about everything
I really appreciate your advice and observations as I'm here to learn as much as I can about these plants and have no background in botany. I'm a lackadaisical gardener at best So the the plant ripens top to bottom (I certainly observed that on my first grow) and harvesting the top, apical cola will stop the process? Meaning if there are lower, lateral branches they won't continue to grow or develop? What about cannabis plants that have been topped in the vegetation stage and therefore had the apical dominance of the main cola disrupted?
Looking at it in another way, if I wanted to, I could harvest the whole plant and just label the buds depending on where they came from the plant? I harvested my last plants all in one go, but didn't keep the buds separated.
I know, I'm overthinking again
Nice job glimmergrass , that is a beauty !
Thanks, greenlid!
Happy Shatterday DD community!
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Isn't she pretty? I love that stage of flowering when they're so fresh and burgeoning ... Also I snickered pretty hard at your Russia joke in your sig
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THAT is some damned impressive training in a week's time arteekay. Reps for that baby. I count 10-12 decent bud sites getting ready to explode. Nice, level canopy too. Damned impressive.
Calls for a celebration.
Calls for a celebration.
THAT is some damned impressive training in a week's time arteekay. Reps for that baby. I count 10-12 decent bud sites getting ready to explode. Nice, level canopy too. Damned impressive.
Calls for a celebration.
I'm quite liking the weekly frequency of my Dark Devil posts here. I post daily in my own grow journals, and it surprised me how much she changed this week.
The training is an experiment. Hoping I can get three basically rectangular plants into a 4x4 under two Mars II 900s better than as offset squares or circles. So far I'm loving it and the plants haven't seemed to have minded.
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I'm quite liking the weekly frequency of my Dark Devil posts here. I post daily in my own grow journals, and it surprised me how much she changed this week.
The training is an experiment. Hoping I can get three basically rectangular plants into a 4x4 under two Mars II 900s better than as offset squares or circles. So far I'm loving it and the plants haven't seemed to have minded.
I posted weekly during my Dark Devil grow. It was more fun and was helpful too.
glimmergrass
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Posting weekly vs daily has advantages on both sides. I love seeing the huge progress week to week but I also like keeping on top of the daily stuff. Not that I do, usually
Here's my DD's trichomes today:
Still no amber that I can see. But I suck at trichomes, so if you see some, holler!
Here's my DD's trichomes today:
Still no amber that I can see. But I suck at trichomes, so if you see some, holler!
I post my DD here every five days...AAMOF today is the day. I'll check back with you after lights on.
VladimirPutin
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Glimmer that DD is super nice! Saw it in the eye candy thread today
Every day my plant is happy and growing like a champ is a day for photo updates
Day 21 in 12/12
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Every day my plant is happy and growing like a champ is a day for photo updates
Day 21 in 12/12
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glimmergrass
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Damn, she's beautiful, Vlad. Juicy and happy
So the the plant ripens top to bottom (I certainly observed that on my first grow) and harvesting the top, apical cola will stop the process? Meaning if there are lower, lateral branches they won't continue to grow or develop? What about cannabis plants that have been topped in the vegetation stage and therefore had the apical dominance of the main cola disrupted?
Looking at it in another way, if I wanted to, I could harvest the whole plant and just label the buds depending on where they came from the plant? I harvested my last plants all in one go, but didn't keep the buds separated.
I know, I'm overthinking again
"topping" a Auto period cannabis plant, my opinion is waste of valuable time. These strains are small to begin with so making the plant stop its natural growth cycle to develop a new apical meristem is wasting valuable time since these plants are on a time schedule.
Regarding photo period plants and topping in VEG - lots of folks do it. It's a style of growing usually followed by some sort of training. All good but not my style. I tend to gauge the success of my grows by how LITTLE work I have to do to get to harvest. Less work, I'm more successful!! Thats me...
For example: If one of my ladies LST/tied and trained gets me 10 zips but takes up the space of 4 plants that yield me 3 zips each AND I have to work hard to get there, I don't see that as a win for me. What happens if something like pests enter the scene... I've got all my eggs in one basket and set myself up for failure. If I have 4 plants and one gets pests I still have 3 plants. Training also takes more time. My ladies in flower 70-75 days then chop.
Economics comes into play for me, I prefer organic no-til = maybe a little less yield overall, but trade for best tasting buds, less work and WAY less cost.
Glimmer - overthinking for me = paying attention to detail. That is always always a good thing. Just have fun doing it that's my thing, enjoying gardening. All this canna deal for the winter time is coming to an end for me. Spring time we will be growing 100s of seedlings for outdoor gardens so this pales in comparo. It sure is nice to be able to grow pretty flowers all winter long tho, isn't it??
You're doing GREAT, keep up the good work!
Many wishes for a green and purple harvest, yeah u right!
EDIT: Glimmer I noticed you mentioned "flushing"; you're growing in soil right? Before you do a lot of extra actual work doing that, do a little research into WHY you want to do that. I'm certain that "flushing" in soil grow is a waste of good water with science to back that up.
Cation Exchange Capacity in Soils, Simplified
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VladimirPutin
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Looking very healthy RifleMan!
I was looking into "flushing" not too long ago, anticipating the future as always. From what I understand, you are forcing the plant to use up reserves in the leaf and let the plant focus on final fattening of delicious ripe buds. The plant has energy, devote it all to making flower and it will probably be an epic finish. Absorbing and breaking down food in the root zone wastes energy.
But this is only anecdotal evidence... Mysterious plant is mysterious!
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Oh yea, read up on how tobacco people cure their stuff. Apparently they laugh at us for quick drying our bud as opposed to a long cure. Granted...there is higher risk of mold as the long cure is more complicated, requires more environmental control for longer period of time. But apparently the pay off is phenomenally superb.
Looking very healthy RifleMan!
I was looking into "flushing" not too long ago, anticipating the future as always. From what I understand, you are forcing the plant to use up reserves in the leaf and let the plant focus on final fattening of delicious ripe buds. The plant has energy, devote it all to making flower and it will probably be an epic finish. Absorbing and breaking down food in the root zone wastes energy.
But this is only anecdotal evidence... Mysterious plant is mysterious!
Vlad
Oh yea, read up on how tobacco people cure their stuff. Apparently they laugh at us for quick drying our bud as opposed to a long cure. Granted...there is higher risk of mold as the long cure is more complicated, requires more environmental control for longer period of time. But apparently the pay off is phenomenally superb.
Not sure tobacco and Cannabis are a great comparison. Tobacco farmers harvest leaves, we harvest unfertilized flowers.
glimmergrass
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Hey, gang!
Thanks, bobrown!
I flush (well, a little) because I'm growing in coco coir with synthetic nutes I haven't done a real flush this time on the Blue Dream I just harvested -- I've given just plain water for the last week.
My third grow, which I've just started, is all in organic soil, so that will be really different for me! Just popped my second Dark Devil on that grow!
Rifleman, she looks gorgeous. So even and well-trained
Thanks, bobrown!
I flush (well, a little
) because I'm growing in coco coir with synthetic nutes I haven't done a real flush this time on the Blue Dream I just harvested -- I've given just plain water for the last week.My third grow, which I've just started, is all in organic soil, so that will be really different for me! Just popped my second Dark Devil on that grow!
Rifleman, she looks gorgeous. So even and well-trained
VladimirPutin
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Interesting point on the long cure debate. Tobacco farmers don't cure flowers, we do.
A bud is pretty dense when compared to a leaf of tobacco so therefore keeping mold at bay would be supremely difficult.
Hmmmmmm..
Vlad
A bud is pretty dense when compared to a leaf of tobacco so therefore keeping mold at bay would be supremely difficult.
Hmmmmmm..
Vlad
I dont even flush on a chem nute grow. My beauties from the hunger games got switched to half of regular dosage and then 1/4 in the final week. I do a last watering with no nutrients just to save money. I feel that giving decreasing nutes allows the plant to still grow without deficiency in late flower.
For example, say you are flirting with a late calcium deficiency and just feed water. Your plant will not finish effectively because of the lack of calcium. But giving a decreased nutrient schedule will still allow that plant to flower effectively. In fact, it will supply some calcium that lets the plant use up more stored nutrient like phosphorus. If I just gave water, that phosphorus would still be in storage in the plant, counteracting the effect of the flush we are trying to achieve.
Also, adding dilute nutrient can help release some of the locked up salts in the grow. especially if we water with 1/4 waste and the dilute nutes. The dilute nutes will help solubilize and move the salts from the media.
As a result, with no media flush, the herb I have grown this time is as smooth as silk. I do hang my plants in diffuse light on the edge of the grow. As we know, cutting them down is a death sentence but the plants are not dead yet! While they are hanging the diffuse light will allow photosynthesis to continue and more stored nutrients to be utilized. I have the plants on hangers in big pieces and turn the orientation of the hangers once per day.
Now as bobrown has said this will not work in organic soil as we have a slow release of nutrients from mineral storage. Flushing is not going to remove those minerals from the soil. They are just there and converted to useable forms by the microflora.
OH! my real purpose in coming here today was to say My 5 DD seeds just got put in the mail by Gorilla seeds from the MOTM contest! So excited to join this community grow!
For example, say you are flirting with a late calcium deficiency and just feed water. Your plant will not finish effectively because of the lack of calcium. But giving a decreased nutrient schedule will still allow that plant to flower effectively. In fact, it will supply some calcium that lets the plant use up more stored nutrient like phosphorus. If I just gave water, that phosphorus would still be in storage in the plant, counteracting the effect of the flush we are trying to achieve.
Also, adding dilute nutrient can help release some of the locked up salts in the grow. especially if we water with 1/4 waste and the dilute nutes. The dilute nutes will help solubilize and move the salts from the media.
As a result, with no media flush, the herb I have grown this time is as smooth as silk. I do hang my plants in diffuse light on the edge of the grow. As we know, cutting them down is a death sentence but the plants are not dead yet! While they are hanging the diffuse light will allow photosynthesis to continue and more stored nutrients to be utilized. I have the plants on hangers in big pieces and turn the orientation of the hangers once per day.
Now as bobrown has said this will not work in organic soil as we have a slow release of nutrients from mineral storage. Flushing is not going to remove those minerals from the soil. They are just there and converted to useable forms by the microflora.
OH! my real purpose in coming here today was to say My 5 DD seeds just got put in the mail by Gorilla seeds from the MOTM contest! So excited to join this community grow!
Hey, gang!
Thanks, bobrown!
I flush (well, a little
My third grow, which I've just started, is all in organic soil, so that will be really different for me! Just popped my second Dark Devil on that grow!
Rifleman, she looks gorgeous. So even and well-trained
Hey there Glimmer .. sorry I thought you were in soil. For hydroponics flushing helps get rid of salt build up ... I have no idea why/how but for soil it's a no go. Thanks Shigg for getting me right!
My DD has started her stretching I do believe. She is 37 days old, has been getting Tiresias spray for eight days, and is ten inches tall. Two of those inches since Sunday. 
