CajunCelt
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Looking nice!
Dank's Three Strain Grow LST CFLs In Soil
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ive used all light schedules for veg you can think of,
18-6 promotes faster root growth compared with 24-0,
plants grown under 24-0 seem to stay shorter and more bushy compared with 18-6, i find i got longer buds when i use 18-6 or 17-7 for veg.
as for autos ive done lots of testing with several auto strains and produced my own pheno selected auto strain,
my findings was this,
autos grown under 24-0 from seed to harvest showed sex around week 2, they started flowering soon and reached harvest pretty quick, how ever yields where tiny such as 7 to 15g dry per auto, most autos are bred to be grown as sea of green, so lots of 56 day autos grown under 24-0 pays off, but only if you grow large numbers.
so using the same auto strains i had grown under 24-0 i tried under different schedules, my own experience has shown that my autos easily hit 2oz per plant when i grow them under 12-12 from seed to harvest, now im not saying 12-12 is the best schedule to use but im pretty confident that 24-0 is the best schedule for a fast harvest and low yields per plant
but if you want bigger yields from your autos then use 18-6 or what ever schedule gives less light per day.
what i think happens is this, autos dont flower and reach harvest due to age in days, if this was true then they would never flower under 24-0 from seed because they would not know what 1 day is without having a regular dark period every 24 hours, so we can rule out autos flowering due to age in days. so we nee to think of what else makes them mature and reach harvest. to me the thing i can think of is the flower and mature due to age in light hours.
the reason i got to this conclusion is that under 24-0 my autos showed sex at week 2 from seed, they started flowering 2 weeks later and reached harvest around day 60ish from seed.
under 18-6 from seed to harvest they showed sex around week 4 from seed and started flowering around week 6 from seed, harvest date was then around day 80ish.
under 12-12 from seed to harvest it dragged the grow time out even futher so they took longer to mature, longer to flower and weeks longer to reach harvest,
but my yields went from 7 to 14g dry per plant under 24-0 from seed to harvest and under 12-12 i was easily hitting 2oz dry per auto but the down side is it took longer to reach harvest.
so from the tests i done with the strains ive grown i found if you want a quick harvest then use 24-0, but if your growing just 1 auto then dont expect anything more than 7g to 14g per plant, but if you grow 1 auto and want a decent yield then give the auto less light hours per day, so 18-6, 17-7, 16-7 etc etc, pick one schedule and stick with it, i went down from 24-0 with poor yields and tried 12-12 from seed to harvest and was very happy with the 2oz i ended up with.
not all autos might follow these rules but i was fed up of getting really poor results under 24-0 and i kept listening to everyone say 24-0 is the best to use as it gives the most light hours per day, well i listened and got poor results, so i changed the schedule and i got bigger yields but longer grow times, so if anyone asks me which schedule to use for autos id have to say anything between 18-6 and 12-12,
maybe the 24-0 with autos slows root growth and this keeps the plant small where as 18-6 promotes root growth and allows the plant to get much bigger, plus when the light are off the plant is still growing,
18-6 promotes faster root growth compared with 24-0,
plants grown under 24-0 seem to stay shorter and more bushy compared with 18-6, i find i got longer buds when i use 18-6 or 17-7 for veg.
as for autos ive done lots of testing with several auto strains and produced my own pheno selected auto strain,
my findings was this,
autos grown under 24-0 from seed to harvest showed sex around week 2, they started flowering soon and reached harvest pretty quick, how ever yields where tiny such as 7 to 15g dry per auto, most autos are bred to be grown as sea of green, so lots of 56 day autos grown under 24-0 pays off, but only if you grow large numbers.
so using the same auto strains i had grown under 24-0 i tried under different schedules, my own experience has shown that my autos easily hit 2oz per plant when i grow them under 12-12 from seed to harvest, now im not saying 12-12 is the best schedule to use but im pretty confident that 24-0 is the best schedule for a fast harvest and low yields per plant
but if you want bigger yields from your autos then use 18-6 or what ever schedule gives less light per day.
what i think happens is this, autos dont flower and reach harvest due to age in days, if this was true then they would never flower under 24-0 from seed because they would not know what 1 day is without having a regular dark period every 24 hours, so we can rule out autos flowering due to age in days. so we nee to think of what else makes them mature and reach harvest. to me the thing i can think of is the flower and mature due to age in light hours.
the reason i got to this conclusion is that under 24-0 my autos showed sex at week 2 from seed, they started flowering 2 weeks later and reached harvest around day 60ish from seed.
under 18-6 from seed to harvest they showed sex around week 4 from seed and started flowering around week 6 from seed, harvest date was then around day 80ish.
under 12-12 from seed to harvest it dragged the grow time out even futher so they took longer to mature, longer to flower and weeks longer to reach harvest,
but my yields went from 7 to 14g dry per plant under 24-0 from seed to harvest and under 12-12 i was easily hitting 2oz dry per auto but the down side is it took longer to reach harvest.
so from the tests i done with the strains ive grown i found if you want a quick harvest then use 24-0, but if your growing just 1 auto then dont expect anything more than 7g to 14g per plant, but if you grow 1 auto and want a decent yield then give the auto less light hours per day, so 18-6, 17-7, 16-7 etc etc, pick one schedule and stick with it, i went down from 24-0 with poor yields and tried 12-12 from seed to harvest and was very happy with the 2oz i ended up with.
not all autos might follow these rules but i was fed up of getting really poor results under 24-0 and i kept listening to everyone say 24-0 is the best to use as it gives the most light hours per day, well i listened and got poor results, so i changed the schedule and i got bigger yields but longer grow times, so if anyone asks me which schedule to use for autos id have to say anything between 18-6 and 12-12,
maybe the 24-0 with autos slows root growth and this keeps the plant small where as 18-6 promotes root growth and allows the plant to get much bigger, plus when the light are off the plant is still growing,
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danklover79
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It's all about the roots for me, under 24/0 I had 3 autos that didn't even fill 1 gallon pots with roots, then I ran another auto under 18/6, that produced way more roots in less time, and some pretty dense buds. These plants vegged under 18/6 and have good root structure, as well as really thick stems, and strong branches.
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danklover79
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Thanks man, I'm pretty proud of this group, though I lost one of the first three plants, wonder what it would've looked like.
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danklover79
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I'll post some bud porn for you guys this evening, as long as I have time, I've been crazy busy lately.
more roots means the plant can take in more nutrients, which in turn means bigger plants and bigger buds,
i also found watering my plants less often really helps with growth, i now make sure the soil totally dries out between watering and my plants have been much better for it,
happy new year everyone,
i also found watering my plants less often really helps with growth, i now make sure the soil totally dries out between watering and my plants have been much better for it,
happy new year everyone,
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danklover79
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Happy New Year dp, and everyone, pics coming soon.
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danklover79
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Here we go everyone, the first two pics are the AK47 X UK Cherry Cheese X Skunk #1, and the other two the Purple Paralysis.
The Purple Paralysis is frostier than the AK X so far, but it was also the first to show sex.
The Purple Paralysis is frostier than the AK X so far, but it was also the first to show sex.
looking good mate, the PP looks further into flower so should finish sooner by the looks of it, the PP reminds me of the sensi star pheno ive got, that gets really frosty really early. if the pp turns out like the sensi star then it will be a very nice smoke indeed, pretty potent as well,
the sensi star is the only strain thats come close to the ak47 x uk cherrry cheese, even big buddha cheese didnt turn out as nice as i was expecting,
the sensi star is the only strain thats come close to the ak47 x uk cherrry cheese, even big buddha cheese didnt turn out as nice as i was expecting,
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danklover79
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Here's two more, just because I felt like playing with my camera, the AK X first, then the PP.
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danklover79
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Thanks dp, the breeder info said 22% THC on the PP, so it's supposed to be pretty strong, but you can't always believe that info. I hope it's a good one, I'll grow it again if so, and it seems to be a quick finisher as well.
AfricanGrower
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Looking good in here Dank
Just a few questions to catch myself up here, and for my own notes:
How many days into flower are you? Did you give a dark period before switching to flower.
Just a few questions to catch myself up here, and for my own notes:
How many days into flower are you? Did you give a dark period before switching to flower.
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danklover79
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Thanks for dropping by AG, these girls are on day 23 of flower, and I did not give them a dark period before the flip. The PP is really flowering quickly, and I'm ready to try this strain for sure.
Looking good in here Dank
Just a few questions to catch myself up here, and for my own notes:
How many days into flower are you? Did you give a dark period before switching to flower.
AfricanGrower
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Damn, they are really filling in nicely for 3 weeks in. I'm going to have to to reconsider some of my transition methods if I keep using my current strain!
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danklover79
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Thanks AG, they are filling in quite nicely, kinda surprising to me really.
Dresney
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Lovely photos of beautiful girls, Dank.
Have some reps on me.
Edit: Okay, guess I need to spread the reps around some before giving you more.
I'll get you again soon though! 
Have some reps on me.
Edit: Okay, guess I need to spread the reps around some before giving you more.
I'll get you again soon though!
CajunCelt
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You brought them into flowering in great shape!
+reps
+reps
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danklover79
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I know it's only been a few days, but I think it's time for some more pics, so here we go. The first 3 are of the AK47 X UK Cherry Cheese X Skunk #1, which is finally catching up to the PP, putting on some weight, but the PP is quite a bit frostier still.
Here's the Purple Paralysis, which is stinking up the room worse than the AK X, and has a really nice lime green color, and a fruity scent. This is day 25 of flower, by the way, and they are getting nutes, then molasses, and pH is between 6 and 6.5. I plan to flush after the next nute feed, I've flushed once already in flower.
Here's the Purple Paralysis, which is stinking up the room worse than the AK X, and has a really nice lime green color, and a fruity scent. This is day 25 of flower, by the way, and they are getting nutes, then molasses, and pH is between 6 and 6.5. I plan to flush after the next nute feed, I've flushed once already in flower.
very nice mate,
did you say how long the pp flower time was according to the breeder, the pp seems to be flowering really quick, it reminds me of the special kush i grew when i first started growing, for some reason that flowered much quicker than even the breeder suggested.
everything looks great though, nice shade of green
did you say how long the pp flower time was according to the breeder, the pp seems to be flowering really quick, it reminds me of the special kush i grew when i first started growing, for some reason that flowered much quicker than even the breeder suggested.
everything looks great though, nice shade of green
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danklover79
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Here's some pics to show scale, not quite foot longs, but not too shabby, I think. First the AK X, which stretched more than the PP, due to not being mature at the flip, probably.
And the PP, which may become a favorite for us, but I'll base that on how it smokes.
And the PP, which may become a favorite for us, but I'll base that on how it smokes.
