Crown Royal - First Grow

[dick23rk]

Wow bigbudz, them glasses make a world of difference especially for the pictures. And you just held the glasses directly up against your camera? I'd like to get some better lenses for my samsung camera, it has all the capabilities for taking professional like photos but I hardly know how to use it lol But them glasses may just help me get more true colors in my photos by using them and changing the white balance.

Great that you got some new pots for the transplant, and all that other stuff! Must be quite the decent hydro store. I live to far from any of them around here so I normally order from a store the next province over and they treat me pretty good

I might add that when you decide to do your transplants you can do your defoliating at the same time. This way, if you do happen to stress the plants any from the transplant, as least you will only be stressing them once instead of twice which is just going to prolong the shock period. It's all totally normal for this to happen, transplanting from bigger containers can sometimes be a pain if the roots aren't well developed but I'm sure yours will be. Just don't do it when your medium is really damp, let it dry out some. If there's to much weight left in the dirt then you chance bigger pieces falling apart and ripping the roots.

Otherwise these plants are looking almost as healthy as can be. The calcium issue is a fairly common one and isn't to hard to overcome once you get the right doses of calmag down pat. Just keep feeding it every time you feed nutes and hopefully it will subside. It doesn't seem to be getting much worse now.

 

[bigbudzzz420]

those glasses are great ! i paid 14 bucks for them and i also seen them on amazon . i just put my phone right up to the lense of my glasses and snap away. i dont have to edit my pics or anything .
tomorrow will be the transplants, feeding, training and trimming. at this point i may have to flip the switch this week . All my plants are definitely thirst and hungry . the medium is dry right now so timing is everything.
I ordered some sensi cal mag xtra and it will be here tomorrow . i plan to use it through out flower.

 

[Old TimingMan]

as promised pics from behind the glasses

Looking good Budzzz, time to start the training/teenage years, before you know it they will want to flower!

 

[gtrmike470]

I have heard, and I'm sure it varies from region to region, that if you are using city water, you do not really need to use Cal Mag. Most of it has enough calcium to serve your plants needs. CalMag is mostly used as a preventative, in that the plants do not need an added abundance to thrive. People use it because recovering from a deficiency is very difficult.
Perhaps they're getting too much?

 

[gtrmike470]

I have heard, and I'm sure it varies from region to region, that if you are using city water, you do not really need to use Cal Mag. Most of it has enough calcium to serve your plants needs. CalMag is mostly used as a preventative, in that the plants do not need an added abundance to thrive. People use it because recovering from a deficiency is very difficult.
Perhaps they're getting too much?

Btw, your girls are beautiful.

 

[Skybound]

I have heard, and I'm sure it varies from region to region, that if you are using city water, you do not really need to use Cal Mag. Most of it has enough calcium to serve your plants needs. CalMag is mostly used as a preventative, in that the plants do not need an added abundance to thrive. People use it because recovering from a deficiency is very difficult.

This is true, but be mindful that when filtering the city water through an RO filter, all that calcium is being filtered out which puts you back at square one. Calcium in city water is only true where growers use it right out of the faucet, with an added 24 hours sitting in a bucket/tote for the chlorine and chloramines to evaporate off the water. Also, different cities have different levels, so research your local water quality tests to get a more precise idea of how much calcium you're starting with.

Edit - Keep in mind that some calmag will still be needed, just not as much as is needed for RO or distilled water supply.

 

[bigbudzzz420]

thanks mike , im pretty sure that they could use a dose of cal mag judging by the rusty spots . i bought cal mag and im using it as a foliar spray atm to see if that helps . if not after this week then ill include it in their feedings as well to make sure .

 

[Dabby Duck]

thanks mike , im pretty sure that they could use a dose of cal mag judging by the rusty spots . i bought cal mag and im using it as a foliar spray atm to see if that helps . if not after this week then ill include it in their feedings as well to make sure .

Go ahead and throw in your feed just start low. The calmag is going to aid in the uptake of nutes.

 

[Skybound]

thanks mike , im pretty sure that they could use a dose of cal mag judging by the rusty spots . i bought cal mag and im using it as a foliar spray atm to see if that helps . if not after this week then ill include it in their feedings as well to make sure .

Be careful not to over fert when using the same thing in the food that is in the spray.

 

[bigbudzzz420]

thanks , ill def be careful . ill either feed or foliar but not both .

 

[Skybound]

I'm not saying it has to be either feed or foliar, just to watch the levels of both. Like if you normally do calmag @ 5ml/gal, then maybe drop that to 4ml/gal in the feed and a mild calmag spray.

 

[bigbudzzz420]

I'm not saying it has to be either feed or foliar, just to watch the levels of both. Like if you normally do calmag @ 5ml/gal, then maybe drop that to 4ml/gal in the feed and a mild calmag spray.

gotcha. thanks for the tip

 

[bigbudzzz420]

update -
yesterday 6/12
transplanted from 5 gal to 7 gal on all 4 . transplanted from 1 gal to 5 gal for the smallest one . followed the feeding schedule on ANs site for flower at grand master level . to me , it seemed like ALOT of nutes considering i used terpinator and mammoth P as well . but its basically 15 ml/gal of A and B then 7 ml/gal for each additive then 10 ml/ gal terp and 1.5ml/gal mammoth P . I also foliar sprayed twice with cal mag , once yesterday and once today . That fussy cal mag deficient plant looks better already .shes such a pain in the ass . i gotta say , i hope its worth the trouble up potting to the 7 gal because its such a pain lugging heavy wet 7 gal pots back n forth to the bath tub . anyways the girls were happy and the transplants had little effect at all on them . heres some pics of after the transplants and feedings .
Before flipping to flower

6/13
flipped the switch, first day of flower. dropped the lights to about 12 inches which was what the manufacturer suggested. I cannot believe the growth on my girls from just 1 night of 12 hours darkness lastnight .
Im glad i transplanted to a bigger pot now ! the girls exploded insanely in just 1 night !
Im sorry i dont have ANY pics of them today but i will definitely snap some before work in the morning.

I also have some other good news that i will be sharing very soon .Possibly tomorrow night.

 

[dick23rk]

Hey budz, the plants are looking great. Good job on the transplants as well, I knew they would like you for that! I didn't realize you were watering in your bathtub, that could be a pain.. You can usually get cheap plastic plant trays at walmart if you have one in your area, that's all I use, 12" ones. They even have bigger and heavier plastic ones but are more expensive of course lol.

Take the advice these guys gave you on your calmag feedings that I hadn't mentioned to you before. It's good that they are starting to look better, you wont gain any green back in those rusty spots but the problem should stop or at least slow down at the start. I am giving my 2 deficient plants 4ml/gal when I feed instead of the recommended 2.5ml and I haven't seen any new rusty spots yet.

Can't wait for these gals to start their stretch, they are gonna shoot right up and you may still need to tie back the odd branch. I seen that you have your light at the manufacturers recommended 12", that's fine but be sure that your plants are all getting an even amount of light if possible. Sometimes you may have to move it up to do so.

Keep up the good work my friend, I will be back

 

[bigbudzzz420]

day 2 of flower>>>>>>>>>
ok heres pics of them just waking up this morning . im really considering putting up the trellis tomorrow, hopefully its not too late . ill just have to water in the tent rather than lugging to the tub .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
day 2 of flower

hope you like what you see .i should mention that i have the drip plates for the pots im using if i decide to use the trellis and the tent came with a drip tray at the bottom that can be detached for cleaning or whatever .

 

[Skybound]

Once your canopy engulf your trellis, you'll find that the plants underneath become pinned down and unmovable. For this reason I stopped using them, but if I found another situation where I had plenty of room to maneuver around the trellis, I would still use that green metal fencing stuff that is rolled up, cut to size and staple it to a wood frame. With metal fencing, you can cut the wire and bend it to open a passage way for moving branches outward was they grow. Of course this takes away from the re-usability of the fencing, but that's a minor tradeoff.

 

[Philsthetent]

Hey budz- looking great over here ! I flipped mine on Monday so we are neck & neck lol
Good luck
Day 2 flower-

 

[bigbudzzz420]

Once your canopy engulf your trellis, you'll find that the plants underneath become pinned down and unmovable. For this reason I stopped using them, but if I found another situation where I had plenty of room to maneuver around the trellis, I would still use that green metal fencing stuff that is rolled up, cut to size and staple it to a wood frame. With metal fencing, you can cut the wire and bend it to open a passage way for moving branches outward was they grow. Of course this takes away from the re-usability of the fencing, but that's a minor tradeoff.

metal fencing huh?
hmm. i wonder if i could zip tie it to the poles in the corner .
Do you think the trellis is inferior because it becomes a tangled mess amd you cant manipulate it the way you could with the fencing ?

 

[Skybound]

metal fencing huh?
hmm. i wonder if i could zip tie it to the poles in the corner .
Do you think the trellis is inferior because it becomes a tangled mess amd you cant manipulate it the way you could with the fencing ?

After the plants stretch at the beginning of bloom and the branches get woody, pulling branches from middle cells in the trellis to move to outer cells is no longer practical and will likely lead to snapped branches or buds being smashed together which further leads to bud rot. With metal, you can snip a wire and bend it out of the way, then move the branch and bend the wire back.

Still, my last and this grow, I didn't use trellis at all. LST and yoyo hangers above are better options as they allow me to focus on getting specific branches right where I want them, and I can make any changes I want. Plus with no trellis, I can move the plants around some which further assists me. If you LST certain branches to the pot, you can then LST other branches to those already tied off branches. If done this way, I would be able to rotate my flowering girls 360° if desired which is a must for my tiny space to assist with defoliating. However, I do use yoyo hangers to hold my buds up high, and obviously I can't spin too much now, but with a scrog, I wouldn't be able to spin the plant at all.

 

[bigbudzzz420]

i usually rotate my plants daily , sometimes hourly to make sure all sides are hit equally . i think i will hold off on the trellis on this grow since it will it be more inconvenient than helpful .
I think im going to invest in that autopot system next time .
What are yoyo hangers btw ?