Very nice flytier, looks like you will have some nice buds in that box in a couple short months!
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flytier
Well-Known Member
Thanks. I decided to go with autos over the off-season to save a bit of hassle in my limited indoor space. This is the first of five strains I gathered up, patiently waiting their turns in the fridge right now. No probs with CKS on my end.
I am considering autos for outdoor as to avoid big plants and get two harvests. Other than that, we enjoy the control that photo plants provide. Gotta grow a certain size plant to get the most out of our space. They're off to a great start, keep it up!
flytier
Well-Known Member
I'm considering putting down some autos outdoors next year too, for an early harvest, and maybe some hash plant and a sativa of some sort for successive ones. But that'll change a dozen times in the next seven or eight months.
Lol it always does bro. Our plans are always changing from day to day even.
SwAggNiFiCeNt
Well-Known Member
I almost chose cks for my first grow. But after 2 tries with the site chat customer service I chose not to. It was some of the worst piss poor horse shit service I've ever had in my life. So safe to say I personally will not be conducting any business with cks in the near future. This is only my own experience and I'm SURE that cks as a company is much better then the individuals that I personally dealt with.
OldMedUser
Formerly Known as LabRat
Funny that CK read thru the whole thread dropping Likes and Thanks on many positive posts but offering no commentary.
That being said I recently purchased 3 strains of CKS from a hydro store in Chilliwack, BC on my way home from the coast to my already chilly northern Alberta home. Got 5 each of Blueberry, Afghani and Original Skunk and am thinking of ordering their CB Dream and the CB Dutch Treat.
Hoping for a couple of nice males from each of the 3 regular strains to cross with my Otto#1 female currently getting way too big and unruly in my grow room. The Otto is a very low, (<1%), THC strain that can have up to 27% CBD so I can then hunt for the best phenos from such crosses.
I must say that all the seeds from CK look very fat, dark and healthy so expect close to 100% germination. I also picked up a 10 pack of Green Spirit from Jordan of the Islands and the seeds are much smaller and not as dark green tho that is no real indication of their viability.
Once I start the new seeds I will be posting a grow thread on their progress.
That being said I recently purchased 3 strains of CKS from a hydro store in Chilliwack, BC on my way home from the coast to my already chilly northern Alberta home. Got 5 each of Blueberry, Afghani and Original Skunk and am thinking of ordering their CB Dream and the CB Dutch Treat.
Hoping for a couple of nice males from each of the 3 regular strains to cross with my Otto#1 female currently getting way too big and unruly in my grow room. The Otto is a very low, (<1%), THC strain that can have up to 27% CBD so I can then hunt for the best phenos from such crosses.
I must say that all the seeds from CK look very fat, dark and healthy so expect close to 100% germination. I also picked up a 10 pack of Green Spirit from Jordan of the Islands and the seeds are much smaller and not as dark green tho that is no real indication of their viability.
Once I start the new seeds I will be posting a grow thread on their progress.
SwAggNiFiCeNt
Well-Known Member
I think they're still busy taking all them customer service courses.Funny that CK read thru the whole thread dropping Likes and Thanks on many positive posts but offering no commentary.
That being said I recently purchased 3 strains of CKS from a hydro store in Chilliwack, BC on my way home from the coast to my already chilly northern Alberta home. Got 5 each of Blueberry, Afghani and Original Skunk and am thinking of ordering their CB Dream and the CB Dutch Treat.
Hoping for a couple of nice males from each of the 3 regular strains to cross with my Otto#1 female currently getting way too big and unruly in my grow room. The Otto is a very low, (<1%), THC strain that can have up to 27% CBD so I can then hunt for the best phenos from such crosses.
I must say that all the seeds from CK look very fat, dark and healthy so expect close to 100% germination. I also picked up a 10 pack of Green Spirit from Jordan of the Islands and the seeds are much smaller and not as dark green tho that is no real indication of their viability.
Once I start the new seeds I will be posting a grow thread on their progress.
Or not giving a fuck...
Torst
Well-Known Member
10k Canadians allowed to grow under the ACMPR, once they realize bad genetics..... Facebook pages flooded with CKS issues already!
knighthawktfc
New Member
CKS WW Autofem, 100 days in the dirt and under the lights, first ever grow, produced 220g's from one seed.
Quite happy I am, "bad genetics" or not, delivered as advertised.
Quite happy I am, "bad genetics" or not, delivered as advertised.
I've read that (almost) getting half a pound from an auto-flowering plant is an accomplishment. Congratulations!
I'm trying to figure out what I should choose with the awesome credit that Crop King Seeds gave me as part of my September Member of the Month prize package (thanks, BtW!), and my only experience - so far
- in growing CKS strains to date is the single Train Wreck Auto I currently have going. And since it spent way too long in an 18-ounce Solo cup and the container I then finally transplanted it into is only a two-liter bottle, lol, I'm sure that's not exactly representative of either CKS or the TWA strain. And I guarantee that I won't be harvesting 220 grams from it, LMAO! OtOH, it is definitely a well-behaved little plant. I can't see very good (at all!) these days, so I cannot be absolutely sure, but I haven't seen any opposite-sex flowers appear, or other signs of extreme stress - just a cute little plant that's starting to really "grease up." And I think I might have actually managed to skip the stretch (first ~40% of the actual flowering period) altogether by leaving it in the cup for so long, so I'm guessing that there was stress.
Anyway, due to my inexperience (with CKS), I'd really appreciate it if you could give me a little summary of how your grow went - and how the bud is. How was the smell during the grow? Any issues? Et cetera. What type of effect does the bud give? Duration, potency, smell, taste? Whatever you feel like posting (if anything).
Also, if I remember correctly, you grew CKS' Candy Cane strain, too? Can you do the same for it?
Thanks in advance!
If anyone else wants to chime in with the same kind of information / personal experience with one or more of Crop King Seeds' strains, preferably recent experiences just in case they have changed anything about their strains - but any experiences would surely be helpful - I'd appreciate it. I just cannot afford to randomly buy multiple packs of seeds (or even a single seed :sad: ) these days in order to figure out which one(s) work best for me, and have to rely on a combination of the seedbanks' descriptions and the statements of those who have actually grown the plants and consumed the bud.
Oh, and thanks again, Crop King Seeds, both for being one of our forum sponsors and for donating to our monthly contests!
TS you can see link to ones I have tried of theirs in my Sig. Have had some germination issues but no idea if it is the seeds or me or a combination of both. I really like the Crown Royal I grew but I'm not sure if that is what it is as it supposed to be Indica dominant and my girl was definitely Sativa dominant:
It is still curing but really liked the taste/high of it and so did the folks that tried it. Have a Haze Extreme still in Veg, and my Blueberry that lived was a Male, so I don't have a ton to base much of an opinion yet.
It is still curing but really liked the taste/high of it and so did the folks that tried it. Have a Haze Extreme still in Veg, and my Blueberry that lived was a Male, so I don't have a ton to base much of an opinion yet.
knighthawktfc
New Member
I've read that (almost) getting half a pound from an auto-flowering plant is an accomplishment. Congratulations!
I'm trying to figure out what I should choose with the awesome credit that Crop King Seeds gave me as part of my September Member of the Month prize package (thanks, BtW!), and my only experience - so far
And I guarantee that I won't be harvesting 220 grams from it, LMAO! OtOH, it is definitely a well-behaved little plant. I can't see very good (at all!) these days, so I cannot be absolutely sure, but I haven't seen any opposite-sex flowers appear, or other signs of extreme stress - just a cute little plant that's starting to really "grease up." And I think I might have actually managed to skip the stretch (first ~40% of the actual flowering period) altogether by leaving it in the cup for so long, so I'm guessing that there was stress.
Anyway, due to my inexperience (with CKS), I'd really appreciate it if you could give me a little summary of how your grow went - and how the bud is. How was the smell during the grow? Any issues? Et cetera. What type of effect does the bud give? Duration, potency, smell, taste? Whatever you feel like posting (if anything).
Also, if I remember correctly, you grew CKS' Candy Cane strain, too? Can you do the same for it?
Thanks in advance!
If anyone else wants to chime in with the same kind of information / personal experience with one or more of Crop King Seeds' strains, preferably recent experiences just in case they have changed anything about their strains - but any experiences would surely be helpful - I'd appreciate it. I just cannot afford to randomly buy multiple packs of seeds (or even a single seed :sad: ) these days in order to figure out which one(s) work best for me, and have to rely on a combination of the seedbanks' descriptions and the statements of those who have actually grown the plants and consumed the bud.
Oh, and thanks again, Crop King Seeds, both for being one of our forum sponsors and for donating to our monthly contests!
Ok I'll try but that's a lot to cover and I'm usually more verbose then necessary so I'll try to keep it as short as possible.
Yes I grew both the Candy Cane strain and the WW strains from CKS for my first grow that is now complete.
Both germed using CKS method (paper towel after soak), and placed straight into their final destinations - 5gallon plastic pots filled with mostly FFOF soil, baking under 600w (320wall-watts) Kind led light, later I added a few minor (12-18w) side spot-light type leds. I ran my lights at about 19hr on 5hr off in what eventually became a cramped 2'x4'x7' tent. Both plants had some odd looking leaves early on (wrinkles and stuff I just couldn't explain), but most of that was caused by my environment and getting it dialed in the first couple weeks, wind,heat,humidity etc.
Things went well for awhile, both turned out female like they were supposed too, both were autos like they were supposed to be. Then around flower time my soil ph got low (I think) and both the candy and ww starting having different yellowing problems. Some flushing and dolomite lime to up the soil ph seemed to fix CC, and help but not 'fix' WW, who continued to drop all larger leaves over time and eventually nearly all smaller ones too. I never figured out yet wtf I did wrong with the WW... combo of initially low ph, with then maybe not feeding her veg-nutes the first 2 weeks of her flower mode (which came well after CC's flower mode - part of my mistake was assuming they would basically both be on nearly the same schedule), and then I think for bit I was under-feeding ww, then over feeding, and I think I long under-fed CC. The smell management went fine, I had an exit filter and decent negative pressure for the first 1/3rd of the grow and smells were fine, around day 30 they both started to smell like weed, by day 45 they both clearly had distinct smells. None of it was getting outside the tent unless I opened it... which produced a nice wiff, but not overpowering, not till toward the end anyway, and even then it wasn't that bad. But about 1/3rd into the grow I also had input air filtering going on (for unrelated reasons - cig smoke) so the outer room between the input and exit filters didn't smell at all - but would have without at least one of them runnning.
Long story short - Both ended up surviving to the end, probably both could have done better than they did, but hey they made it to the end and that's what counts! CC was harvested on day 72 from sprout, and WW on day 100 from sprout, CC was a total of 13" high from soil base, and WW was about 24" high from soil base, both had at least 10 day's 'flushing' at the end if not longer, and WW unlike CC got 30hr of darkness before chop. CC was very frosty at the end, WW while frosty too didn't seem as frosty did seem more sticky. CC was bushy and dense , WW was branchy and not as dense, both (even as auto's) I had to defoil a little, maybe too much, which probably hurt me in the end but I felt it had to be done (too many leaves all ontop one another smashing into each other and causing problems..beyond even blocking light issue, and the ones involed were sadly the largest and seemingly most important looking lol).
Now in the end I got about ~115 grams off CC and ~220 of WW. This is actually kind of what I thought I'd get before I started the grow, NOT the amounts mind you (my goal was 6z's total for success), just that CC would produce less than what ever the higher yielding WW was supposed to. I figured at absolute best case I could do would be about 1/2 of whatever the stated sqmeter yields were (ie I only had 1/2 that room for each), and that was if I did everything perfectly (which I didn't). They both over-delivered on those "1/2" expectations, CC by a little, and WW by alot. CKS says 250g for the WW, and 200g for the CC, and while not explicitly stated on their page I assumed they were using the standard sq meter everyone else seems too.
As for results vs sort of advertised descriptions:
That's what they describe, along with basic stats of the strain.
Fruity it is not in my opinion, not at all fruity, but I'm not gods gift to cannabis taste testings so mileage may vary. But it's no Lemon haze, or strawberry kush in terms of fruity taste, that's for sure, "sour" eh maybe a bit, 'sweet' tasting, yes I agree it is. To me it smells a little like spearmint\peppermint (kind of like...you guessed it a candy cane), it had that distinct smell from about day 30+ onward while growing, and it was I would stay the stronger smelling of the two. Smoking it I would say it tastes similar, earthy spearment, idk taste via bong always seems distorted to me but that's my report.
It IS a 7 week flowering strain though, I harvested on day 72, I could harvested a few days earlier, I probably could have waited another day or two as well. While the non-autos can grow up to like 5ft, mine was 13" - I topped and lst'd her, but she was still BUSHY and DENSE as HELL. After a couple weeks curing she smokes pretty smooth now, and the high is both body and head and it will linger for awhile so long-lasting is probably accurate if you say 2hr is long lasting - I'm basing that off say 3-4 hits from the bong at 8pm, you're good till 10pm. It's a very functional head high though (idk that I would say 'euphoric' but maybe it fits), I can sit and code while medicated on it, or go do yard work. Strength...hmm it's not weak, but it's also not over-powering, it's in my view a little bit of creeper high, I take a hit or two and it could take 5-10 minutes as the high slowly creeps in fully. They say avg around 15-17%thc... kinda feels that's about right when I smoke it, but wtf do I know.
They claim it's easy to grow and good for beginners like myself, I would have to agree. I mean threw some minor issues at it and it just kept going, so for most who are still learning I would say it's a stain that will take a bit of abuse and keep marching onward even if yeild is effected.
As for the WW..
They mention that^ as well has some basic stats on strain page.
I don't want to babble on about issues I had during the grow with my WW, I'd bet nothing I ran into had much to do with the strain, but it's worth noting at points in time I wasn't sure she was even going to make it to the end at the rate I was losing leaves, and yet she still managed to give me 220grams. So... easy\resilient strain I would have to say - oh hell yeah! Known for "white tri's and orange hairs"... well the orange hair thing is certainly true, def a little more colorful in that regard than CC, but CC to my eyes showed far more frost, at least outwardly, though I have to say at harvest time WW showed more frost than I really had noticed prior to then.
The high... oh yeah the high is completely different.
Now mind you none of the WW is ready to smoke, having just jarred it, but from the samples right after harvest and a larger sampling from jar day fluff and crumbs...woah. First off the smell is much like when it was growing, more muted than CC in my opinion (unless you shook her or something), and again I don't have a good nose, but I would say sort of pine'y imho. It tastes...idk wtf it tastes like to be honest, part of this is I was smoking uncured stuff, maybe I could better describe it in two weeks. What I can say is, it's a no-joke strain, it's a heavy head high, and bit couch-locky, and it comes on with in a minute of smoking. Now some of that may be cause I let it go about as long as I thought the plant could (I mean even my sugars were yellowing when I chopped her), I tried to get 20% amber for a good knock me out\ smoke before bed type product, some of it may just be not-cured yet. I think I succeeded in what I wanted with it though, no matter what though it's definitely not something I would smoke a bowl and then go get in the car and do my grocery shopping like Candy. Also I get a little bit of a hang-over-haze from WW, ie many hours later unlike cc, I don't feel clear headed, it's for me, a de-motivating smoke - but that's what I desired, something to knock me out and help when my back pain comes. It's duration..That's interesting question.
The first night I tried a little fuffy popcorn from some stuff that fell off during harvest... it had me on my ass for 2+hr. A week later when smoking a ton of stuff from the trim and fluff tray which I have to imagine what covered like crazy in tris ... i would say it was slightly more potent than a week before, but not quite as long lasting, ~hr per bowl, though a cloudy mental haze does linger for hours after that.
I hope that answers some of your questions, without rewriting 107 days of journals lol, but if I missed something feel free to ask. I feel like for the most part each the seeds from the stain delivered mostly as advertised...taste is always a little subjective, highs can be slightly different due to one's choice in harvesting time frame, but the only thing I would disagree with really is "fruity" for candy cane.
If you really want something clearly fruity it's not the strain for you. I love fruity stuff (and I have real fruity seeds to chose from), but they're almost all sativa or sativa dominate and grow big (bigger than I was prepared to risk this first grow), and this was not one of those, nor did I think it would be. WW as I said is hard for me to describe when it comes to taste, I wanted knock-out type of smoke along with a good yield and I got it, not the most potent stuff I've ever smoked in my life, but it's definitely 20% or more thc range and comes on heavy.
Thank you for doing so!
BtW... Do you think I'd notice verbosity? (Have you seen some of my posts?
)It was pretty comprehensive, thanks again.
Was there much variation in between individual White Widow Auto plants?
Pretty important.
knighthawktfc
New Member
I only grew a single White Widow and Candy Cane seed this grow, so I can't speak to variance between seeds of the same strain\batch, not yet anyway, I have 5 left of each still since I got a free one included in both CC and WW seed bags.
flytier
Well-Known Member
I'm going to try some CC for my next grow. For variance I find that one per pack is common.
Eeko
Well-Known Member
After reading all 8 pages of this thread and seeing the absence of CKS in regards to responding to anything, they will not ever see my business. Not answering on line complaints and being an online business.....I dunno, I guess it works for others just not me. Along the same lines, the "new ownership" seems to deliver the same as the old if there was actually any change in ownership.
CKS is crap. I recently won the September nug of the month competition and one of the prizes was a $100 gift certificate from cks. Too bad the prize code they gave me is invalid lol. I have sent these idiots many many emails telling them that the code does not work. All i get in return is silence. They dont care. Not that i would grow anything from cks anyways but still, if you say you will give a prize to the winner then keep your word. I had zero issues with the other companies offering prizes. BTW thanks Gorilla. And believe me there are tons of people around here with stories similar to mine. IMO shady people running a shady company selling knockoff seeds at high prices. Dont waste your time or money 
I was sent a code for a $100 store credit. I farted around a bit, but finally attempted to use the credit a week or so later. I attempted to place an order - using the code - and received the same "invalid code" notification. I sent them a query about this, and included a direct copy of the code I received. Someone from the company replied reasonably quickly (it was the same day and, if I'm not mistaken, within a couple hours or less). Their reply included the correct code. I immediately attempted to use the correct code...
...and my order went through. It was late in the day at that point. (Again, if I am remembering correctly,) my order was filled/sent two days later. From that point to my door, well... I suppose it could have arrived faster - if a company representative had chartered a plane and hand-delivered it
.I rarely order from seedbanks/breeders. Over the years, I have only dealt with entities in four, possibly five, different countries (none of which were my own). Even with the little code <OOPS!>, the entire ordering process was about average, possibly slightly above. Discounting what - from comparing the incorrect code with the correct one - appears to be simple human error, I'd have to bump my informal rating up a notch.
I've had both bad things and good things to say about this seedbank. <SHRUGS> I cannot, at this time, remember a company for which the same hasn't been true.
I am not bothered by the relatively small amount of strain choices.
I do wish that they'd list the breeder / producer of seeds for each strain that they sell, regardless of whether it is "in-house by our own employees," some individual they contract with, or an established breeder who does seed-production work for other companies. But I can think of reasons why a business would not do so. One of which is the possibility that an established breeder - who sells his/her own seeds, himself/herself - might have required that CKS sign a non-disclosure agreement. I do NOT know if this is the case - but if a breeder produces and sells 10 seeds of Acme Indica for $130, and also wholesales them to other entities (for resale) at a bulk price that the other entity can then resell them for $100/10 while still making a profit... Well, if that entity stated "These are the same seeds that Breeder X sells for $30 more - and we know this because we buy them directly from him!" then I would not expect a great many people to continue to purchase the - identical - seeds for $130. I've read that this kind of thing isn't terribly uncommon in the food (grocery) industry. I have also read a few general statements by breeders where they stated that they produced seeds for other companies. So, again, IDK if this is the case here... but it wouldn't surprise me.
I got a kick out of... When I was looking for more information (from people who've grown/smoked them) about CKS' strains, I looked for a link to the company's forum - and saw that said link was to THIS forum, lol. I'll give them a bonus point or two for this; it has probably netted the forum several new users that it might not have gotten, otherwise. No, this wouldn't be enough to convince me to buy seeds when I wouldn't normally do so - but it's enough for me to type:
Thank you for supporting this forum, Crop King Seeds.
Regarding the little code SNAFU, my suggestions are to make sure that CKS knows you are the actually winner instead of someone else who's just trying to use your code before you do, and check to make sure your email provider's spam filter hasn't either blocked their email or sent it into a "Spam" email folder (which might get automatically purged over time, IDK). Maybe try sending them a new email, stating the issue - and then sending a PM to the company's forum representative in which you mention the subject of said email and that it came from you. People have their identities "stolen" and huge bills run up in their name, so maybe the company has had an issue in the past with some scammer trying to get other people's seeds.
I have been contacted by most of the companies (where applicable) and have received most of the prizes. As I am a little paranoid, I might have been a minor PitA, but it appears that these entities are not unfamiliar with paranoids :rolleyes3 .
I cannot give a review on the quality of the merchandise I received, as I have not planted any of it yet. But the ordering process was good (aside from the aforementioned code SNAFU, and paying customers wouldn't have encountered that issue), and the shipping was quick. Obviously, the shipper controls the latter - but CKS appears to have done what they could to minimize any delays on their end.
BtW, Nicholas Flamel, I will PM you a suggestion to try, based on the differences between the (incorrect) code I was originally sent and the correct one I received after contacting CKS. Please let me know if it takes care of your issue.