Creating Female Seeds Using Colloidal Silver - With High Brix

Wait. What? :straightface: Dilution is for STS and home made CS. Bottled CS should be used in it's bottled form. I did just wake up so maybe I missed something. Have people been diluting bottled CS?
Actually my bottle of that I purchased says guaranteed to be at least 50 ppm. When I tested it the ppm was over 120. So, yes I diluted it down to 60 ppm, had no problems creating lots of male flowers and allowed me to double the amount of CS I purchased.
 
If it was 240 ppm I would think you could, it's no different than making STS really, but maybe that's it. :hmmm: A fresh bottle might be in order even if I am baffled as to why, short of too much dilution. The only other thing I've noticed with extended spraying is it seems like no one gets any flowers until well after they have stopped. Usually a week or two. A few have taken almost four.
Has anyone tested spraying 1 or 2 times and then waiting ?
 
Has anyone tested spraying 1 or 2 times and then waiting ?
I had one girl that I started spraying a couple lower branches for three days. Then I had to leave town for over a week so I stopped and actually forgot about it. Three weeks later she was growing balls. I don't claim this will work every time, but for that strain, in that grow, it did work.
 
It's worked twice here with two different strains now. One done and one starting. Going for a third now. Basically I'm using STS directions of two treatments about a week apart and prior to flip. The flowers come out much nicer than the standard two week treatments at flower sign.

I can't say it will work every time for every strain either, but I do believe the process could be reevaluated. I'm going to keep testing even if I don't take them as far as pollen collection.

:Namaste:
 
It's worked twice here with two different strains now. One done and one starting. Going for a third now. Basically I'm using STS directions of two treatments about a week apart and prior to flip. The flowers come out much nicer than the standard two week treatments at flower sign.

I can't say it will work every time for every strain either, but I do believe the process could be reevaluated. I'm going to keep testing even if I don't take them as far as pollen collection.

:Namaste:
What I was getting at is this, maybe everyone is wasting time spraying for long periods, when it's not necessary. I'm just trying to get a tried and proven strategy, before making the leap. i have the link for making the solution, and just deciding if I should just buy a little ?
 
What I was getting at is this, maybe everyone is wasting time spraying for long periods, when it's not necessary. I'm just trying to get a tried and proven strategy, before making the leap. i have the link for making the solution, and just deciding if I should just buy a little ?
This may very well be true or it could just be strain dependent. I know there have been some strains of autos that just would not reverse with CS. Many people just want results and not willing to experiment follow the 'spray till you see nanners' school of thought. If you can get consistent reversals with just a few sprays of CS, I know many will be pleased to hear about it. So please do experiment and let us know how it works out.
 
Does anyone know how far into flowering (after the flip) that CS or STS can be used to promote pollen formation. Would 3 weeks into flowering be to late to induce male pollen sacks?
 
Does anyone know how far into flowering (after the flip) that CS or STS can be used to promote pollen formation. Would 3 weeks into flowering be to late to induce male pollen sacks?

I don't know about STS but for CS that would be too far along. The pollen needs time to mature inside those sacs before it is viable. Plus your buds would be half formed by that time.
 
This could be where the longer treatments may come into play :hmmm: more towards the end of the window. Maybe it's the earlier the less. Less ethylenes could mean less silver required. Just a thought..

:passitleft:

I've done it as far as 2 weeks post flip with CS. Three may not be that bad. I bet it could still work. Provided it's a lower branch (or two) and isolated with a tag. I've ran several that took longer for the reversed flowers to form and dump pollen than it did to grow the female buds left on the same plant untreated, harvest, trim and dry them. When they get to that point I call it a reversed stump because that's all there is left. A stump with an ugly branch or two sticking out of it. :laughtwo: It's ugly but it can live for another month easily and usually won't give up until it dumps pollen. The method seems to work with several strains here I just can't loose the space that long any more so the earlier pre-flip treatments suit me a little better. In that case the reversed branch comes of first. Easily 3-4 weeks earlier than it takes for the rest of the plant to finish. Earlier also means a chance at S1 seeds with only one plant. :)

:Namaste:
 
tomorrow will be 5 weeks of spraying and not a sac seen. I'm tossing in the towel this round.

I am hoping there might be 2 or 3 hidden that will produce a few seeds, but nothing in sight so far.

and the buds look awesome, i'ts a shame they wont get smoked.
 
tomorrow will be 5 weeks of spraying and not a sac seen. I'm tossing in the towel this round.

I am hoping there might be 2 or 3 hidden that will produce a few seeds, but nothing in sight so far.

and the buds look awesome, i'ts a shame they wont get smoked.


why not?
 
I thought it wasn't OK to smoke the cola sprayed with the silver

did you spray entire plant?

a few things i think about..
I take CS for health.
Very low concentration is used (60-80parts per million)
Are you sure there is silver in your CS?
Are we sure there is any silver, and how much is there in the actual bud and not just on it? You wash your produce, HH, right?
:Namaste:
 
I only sprayed one cola.

yes I wash all my bud.

come to think about it, as much crap as I smoked in the past, including paraquat, :cough:what am I worried about one cola of WW for
 
I only sprayed one cola.

yes I wash all my bud.

come to think about it, as much crap as I smoked in the past, including paraquat, :cough:what am I worried about one cola of WW for
The worry is that there is something worse than insecticide and it's called heavy metals. While it might be safe to drink Silver, smoking it can be a different story. Which is why I reverse ladies in solo cups so there is minimal loss of smokable material.
 
You won't be able to smoke anything it has come in contact with. Washed or not. It's beyond horrible. My concern is that it may telegraph through the plant to a degree. I also did a little more research on melting point. It's about 1700 deg. F for silver so it depends on the flame source for us. Butane lighters can get to around 3500 deg F while a hemp wick likely falls bellow the 1700 deg mark. I can't find a real temp for one though.
Silver is a Noble Metal so it's not toxic like a Heavy Metal. Regardless, too much of anything is usually not good so I would not make a continual practice of smoking treated plants whether it can be tasted or not. I like the idea of solo cups. I've more or less moved all my breeding and seeding projects to small pots for less waste in the end. With early treatments and S1 seeds on the same plant it renders it useless for anything but edibles. This will be my normal approach from now on. Late treatments will likely be kept in reserve for emergency measures. I feel safer whether it is or not :laughtwo:

:Namaste:
 
Good info there. I too believe it telegraphes thru the plant to a certain degree. When I use to reverse just one branch of a plant, no matter how careful I was there would be multiple branches affected by the CS. Usually in the general vicinity of the treated branch but once I had one reverse on the other side of the plant. I'm sticking to reversing entire mini plants.

You won't be able to smoke anything it has come in contact with. Washed or not. It's beyond horrible. My concern is that it may telegraph through the plant to a degree. I also did a little more research on melting point. It's about 1700 deg. F for silver so it depends on the flame source for us. Butane lighters can get to around 3500 deg F while a hemp wick likely falls bellow the 1700 deg mark. I can't find a real temp for one though.
Silver is a Noble Metal so it's not toxic like a Heavy Metal. Regardless, too much of anything is usually not good so I would not make a continual practice of smoking treated plants whether it can be tasted or not. I like the idea of solo cups. I've more or less moved all my breeding and seeding projects to small pots for less waste in the end. With early treatments and S1 seeds on the same plant it renders it useless for anything but edibles. This will be my normal approach from now on. Late treatments will likely be kept in reserve for emergency measures. I feel safer whether it is or not :laughtwo:

:Namaste:
 
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