Cottage 420's Organic Perpetual Indoor Garden

hello bob :circle-of-love: great to see the updation and know they are awesome!:thumb:

Hey there Sara - yea plants are liking the reflector 5w series mixed with the MarsII lamp - I'm getting good results.
 
BB, I'm really impressed with my third run no-till. They're like little powerhouses, aren't they? I'm considering up canning my 7 gallon to a 15. With that established core it should take little time to incorporate the new soil into the community. Then I can run two plants in the pot in tandem.

That tall girl? I'd hang some CFLs around her top. That should be the easiest way to get her through the short time she has left. She's a beast!
 
Hello bobrown. I enjoyed your entire journal in one sitting...easy to do with your detailed info, great photos, organic style, & a Thai strain. You are a fine grower. :Namaste:

Thank you sooo much for that. :passitleft: pass pass... take a puff.

The Thai is very good - I'm digging it but the buds are not as dense as I'm used to but the smoke it 100% top shelf, get you going and then some.

I'll have another report here shortly but a teaser pic of my monster lady - she's taking it for the team, bending her over after 3 weeks in flower. Burnt spots are where the plant was actually in contact physically with the LED chips. No shit, the plant was into the fixture when we got home from vacation.

Here she is:

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Hard to see but I've got the top bent over and tied

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more bending

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More bending

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This mother has a few children - in soil on 08-01-15 full moon - in cloning bucket on 07-15-15 new moon
roots were 12"-18" long when I planted them the other day. That is pretty good. Those pots are no-til round 2 & 3 for them. Dust on top is:

rock dust - 3 tbs
Azomite - 2 tbs
Neem cake meal - 2 handfuls
Crab shell meal - I handful

^^^ thats for all 4 pots - not much is needed the only reason I did amendments this round is I saw a few critters running amok, was going to do just add neem but WTF added in a few more goodies. These pots have a lot of our EWC in the mix which is really enough to get them thru to the other side and harvest.


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Here's a mini update... Harvested the last Blue Thai I had going. Looks like I needed to let the others go longer. I was under whelmed with the yield, so I let the last one go all the way until she practically died in the pot around 85 days. Sugar leaves were turning brown... when I pulled her she's got some weight to her and I should get around 5 zips is my guess.

What I've got left in flower is:

Krystalica 4 clones - this is round 4 with this strain in clones now most all are Pheno type "C" - tell tail on that is the huge main cola with a lot of lower down side branches when let go natural. This is a good Pheno type for me as it (usually) takes up less space but I've got a monster that got away from me this round and is hogging up the grow room. I'm practicing LST on her - she's bending over.

I have 1 Cream of the Crop - (C)ash Crop (strain name - not my strain name either). This one is as fat around as a baseball bat the fat end and DENSE. I cannot even see the main meri-stem anywhere on the plant is sooo thick but its not as frosty as the Blue Thai..

round 5 is in the veg room, they will be the next ladies and are growing pretty fast, my soil is strong, no-til pots that ran 3 times already and the clones are looking a little like they have too much of something... I have a pic of the veg room.

I just put some more seeds in jiffy plugs so there will be more to come on how that turns out.

I'm going blue, red and green for the fall!! i think they will be nice fall colors!:rasta:



Bud shots:

SOG Krystalica Pheno "C" - all are 40 - 50 days from flip, this is not too shabby considering we were away on vacation for 17 days - just goes to show in no-til Coots/BJ mix anything is possible and leaving it the fuck alone definitely works, eh?

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SOG Krystalica Pheno "C"

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SOG Krystalica Pheno "C"

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SOG Krystalica Pheno "C"

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Cream of the crop C.C. - in the backround next to a Krystalica clone that is getting a little too yellow. I need to add in some kelp meal tea - it's in the works.

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Cream of the Crop C.C.

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Thanks SweetSue for mentioning this.
Subbed! That Krystalica looks like little wookie heads they're so furry...! Awesome!
 
Thanks SweetSue for mentioning this.
Subbed! That Krystalica looks like little wookie heads they're so furry...! Awesome!

Welcome to my little corner of:420: SB - that's a classic Pheno type "C" Krystalica they all look like that as some point in flower and this is when they get photogenic. I've ran this 5 cycles and collected clones of the Pheno C - I like that one cause of the space and yield. Although I have one now that is bent over cause I couldn't get my light up high enough. She's easily 6' tall and getting bushy too. I let her VEG too long, 8 weeks instead of the usual 6 weeks.

They definitely get some star wars look to them, those girls sure are pretty. I've got 4 more clones going again for next round. I just love this strain. Soooo easy to grow, water and get out of the way. I'm in the grow room MAYBE 15 minutes a day if that.

I've been testing out using BluMat watering system this round to see if I can cut down all that time I have to spend in the flower room!! hahaha. We were away for 17 days out of country came back and not much was different. A few plants were thirsty but it ended up being fine as I didn't have to trim the btm branches and leaves for air flow, most of the lower popcorn dried up and fell off leaving the buds. So I would say that saved me time. I'm getting a little more yellowing of fan leaves on those plants but its nothing I'm stressing over.
 
BB, you should have stepped out and smacked me. I understand that everyone was respectful of my newly-widowed status, but give me your word you won't let me do something like mess with this soil mix again. In the end, once it's re-amended, it means that I end up with enough soil to run a 15 gallon no-till, so I guess I shouldn't be so hard on myself, eh? It also gives me the chance to add more malted barley grain and more neem meal.

OK, I guess that will work out fine, huh? :laughtwo:

This soil is the gold standard, and my chief goal here was to champion this soil mix. Grief sucks! Don't worry. I'm back. :battingeyelashes:

I'll take every opportunity to promote your journal. You and 36 are knocking it out of the park. The LOS work that MassMedMan does is superb too. And SoilGirl, and Mr Teddy, and Conradino, and... You get the picture. :blushsmile: So many talented LOS growers. We're very blessed in that respect.

You keep it up buckaroo. :high-five:
 
You are knocking out of the park without knocking yourself out.
I'm with you on the 15 minutes a day in the garden. I sit there longer, but it's just for fun :)

My CC mix is performing well on just water. My plants - more hit and miss. (I blame it on my skills as a gardener.)

I'm hoping to find more genetics that like my style of care - The Hawaiian Skunk and AK47 are the most compatible based on the 5 strains harvested so far.
 
You are knocking out of the park without knocking yourself out.
I'm with you on the 15 minutes a day in the garden. I sit there longer, but it's just for fun :)

My CC mix is performing well on just water. My plants - more hit and miss. (I blame it on my skills as a gardener.)

I'm hoping to find more genetics that like my style of care - The Hawaiian Skunk and AK47 are the most compatible based on the 5 strains harvested so far.

I love that you seek strains that you a can make thrive. Haha! Actually a good determinate, isn't it? :laughtwo: I'm searching for the favored buzz, and so far it's definitely that zippy, mildly hallucinogenic Dark Devil Auto. Right now I have 10 of those seeds winging their way across the Atlantic headed for my garden. I have a feeling Carnival's going to be a keeper. I'd like to try BB's Kristelica and one of ...... Oh I could go on and on. :laughtwo:
 
BB, you should have stepped out and smacked me. I understand that everyone was respectful of my newly-widowed status, but give me your word you won't let me do something like mess with this soil mix again. In the end, once it's re-amended, it means that I end up with enough soil to run a 15 gallon no-till, so I guess I shouldn't be so hard on myself, eh? It also gives me the chance to add more malted barley grain and more neem meal.

OK, I guess that will work out fine, huh? :laughtwo:

This soil is the gold standard, and my chief goal here was to champion this soil mix. Grief sucks! Don't worry. I'm back. :battingeyelashes:

I'll take every opportunity to promote your journal. You and 36 are knocking it out of the park. The LOS work that MassMedMan does is superb too. And SoilGirl, and Mr Teddy, and Conradino, and... You get the picture. :blushsmile: So many talented LOS growers. We're very blessed in that respect.

You keep it up buckaroo. :high-five:

Hey there SS, what did you do to your soil??

This is the 5th round with this soil. It's time to put it all back into the tub and do a total re-mix and treat the old soil like the hummus portion and re-do it. Whats happening is the aeration part of my mix has broken down and it needs to be added back in, at least I think so... I'm probably over thinking it. Other folks running no-til are having compaction issues with the soil with too much rock dust and aeration portion breaking down. I never used the amount of rock dust CC recommended as I didn't have it all on hand (I do now). I'm not going to use all that rock dust, I don't think its needed in no-til. Just top dress between runs with a cup per container with other amendments and let it rock.
 
Ok a little update here. I for some reason got my userid locked up and couldn't post for a few days. Thats been cleared up for now so ......
I'm baaaack!

Ok where was I?

We are 45-50 days into flower and the ladies are all grown up now and looking like they wanna be mamma's! Getting fat and happy.
I brewed a non-gmo organic popcorn SST for the last week.

What I did was grow the sprouts, grind them up and into a large pot of water. Let that sit out over night room temps (90F) and then into the fridge the next morning. The corn SST or any SST at 90F will start to ferment pretty fast and that makes vinegar so not good, which is why I put the SST in the fridge to keep it for a few days while I use it to top drench the ladies.

What I do is the usual. 1 gallon of RO water and 1-2 cups of the SST - so basically I dilute it a fair amount and water in every or every other watering which with temps in the 80s-90s that's every day. At this stage of the cycle 40-50 days they are drinking a lot of water. The corn SST gives me some extra growth hormones. You may ask why I would add in growth hormones at this time.

Here's a quote from Coots on the corn SST subject, quoted from BAS website:

"The other big one is corn and this seed produces a wide range of Cytokinins on par with coconut water. With the international market demand for coconut water is pushing the price higher and higher and it’s only going to get worse. By using sprouted corn teas you will get the benefits from the Cytokinins without the expense. You don’t need to order organic corn seeds online or jump through hoops – just head over to your favorite supermarket and go to the popcorn section and buy an organic popcorn. Even Wallmart carries 3 or 4 brands of organic popcorn.

One thing about using corn is that I found it easier to puree these seeds once the tap roots grew out to 1" or so which softened the original corn seed.

I switch between alfalfa and corn seeds during the vegetative for the compounds I mentioned. Cytokinins will increase the girth and tinsel strength of the side branches and stronger branches will produce larger and heavier flowers."

I use coconut water too - I was out when I started the corn SST but I will use coconut water all grow and sub corn sprouts when I am out of coconut water. My wife and I both drink the coconut water so sometimes its just not available - it's as good for us as it is for the plants. Try it on you and your plants trust me it's VERY healthy.

I've got 5 Krystalica Pheno "C" clones going in the veg room and they are growing pretty fast. They were just little bitty plants earlier in the week.

I've also popped a few seeds as well so more on that next post.

Fall is coming and is my favorite time to work the indoor garden as the outdoor gardens start winding down.
Our outdoor gardens right now are freaking crazy - we have all kinds of things going on and it's now become a favorite for dog walkers checking out what we have going on. We live in a urban setting so lots of folks checking things out. I'd post pics but that would be against rules here in this canna journal.

We love flowers - my wife is getting close with some that flower almost as long as my canna plants!! I challenged her and she's kicking it! WOW

Anyways here's some bud porn but noting really new just bigger and fatter buds! All good.

First the kinda bad - yellowing leaves here, soil I think is loosing its vigor and in need of some amendments. I added a few teaspoons of full power watering in yesterday and it's already improved from this. I have some rabbit berries on order to kick it up a notch or 3.

Also you can see the BluMat system I've got going - It's only connected to half the plants. I'm trying to see if I can work with it and improve my setup along the way. I'm thinking to tie the watering system to the tent frame so I have better flexibility.

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Same yellowing plant - she's better now. More pics to come also Big Girl there on the right tied down a little

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There's Big Girl - it's hard to show her in context she's sooo big - 7' tall bent over and buds EVERYWHERE and they are packing on the weight. I will be staking up every cola eventually. They are getting fat. She's taking up 4'x4' space in my flower room - wow, 3rd run no-til in that pot too!

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Big Girl buds again... its soo sticky I have to wash my hands off with rubbing alcohol
Baseball players should use canna resin on the bats - I bet it works just as good as pine resin and probably smells even better!

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Cream of the crop Cash Crop - big around as my for-arm and maybe even fatter - completely all one bud tip to soil, she's looking fantastic. I can't wait to try her out. I wish I would have put her in a 10gal no-til .... ah well, I didn't want her to get too big.

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More Big Girl buds - she's just soooo impressive. I would love to grow this one outdoors. I bet she would get 15' tall easy.

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BGB = Big Girl Buds ... I just love to walk into the room and smell the danky dank. I can't wait until the weather starts to cool off and I can open all the windows and doors and smell the sweet sweet smell of my ladies when I get home from work and walk it the door and say "hello ladies" yum yum yum

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This is the clones from last week - I will post a pic of them tomorrow - they are 4x larger already - all no-til 4th and 5th runs in those pots. I will be adding in some rabbit berries in a few days for a nitrogen kick. I'm not an NPK gardener so TIFWIW. The big dead leaves for mulch are Comfrey leaves. They are lighting up the outdoor gardens too. Soon I will cut the comfrey plants down to the crowns and throw all the greens into the worm bin. Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah is right. You're my no-till hero BB.

After Dale died I was in a panic about not being able to germinate and let PeeJay convince me to lighten my soil to half strength. I've since recovered my senses and will be re-amending it and even improving it. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I only used a couple gallons of the lightened soil.

Cannabelle made a strong argument for companion planting scallions with the cannabis. Following her lead I added some to all my LOS pots. This was the first time I'd dug into my no-till and I was so impressed with the quality of the soil matrix. So beautiful! These no-tills are powerhouses. I'm adding a 15 gallon to my tent. BAR inspired me to do a double planting in it.

Good times BB. Your tent is slamming it. Geez.
 
Hello bo. Sounds like you prefer to keep all leaves green as opposed to letting the N fade out as the plant finishes? I like letting them fade to yellow that can aid bud taste & appearance. Makes trimming easier too. But I see many good growers here who like to keep them green all the way to the end. The "fade out" seems to be favored by growers who are old timers (age). That was a very good update!:Namaste:
 
Hello bo. Sounds like you prefer to keep all leaves green as opposed to letting the N fade out as the plant finishes? I like letting them fade to yellow that can aid bud taste & appearance. Makes trimming easier too. But I see many good growers here who like to keep them green all the way to the end. The "fade out" seems to be favored by growers who are old timers (age). That was a very good update!:Namaste:

Hey there BL thanks for stopping by - I'm an old timer for sure but that has nothing to do with canna!! hahaha

This strain I've been growing for the last year or so, Krystalica likes to yellow WAY early like 3 weeks into flower the big leaves start to turn. It's all good as long as the buds don't turn yellow right? Not this strain anyways. Old timer me sometimes remembers Acapulco Gold among others from back in the day. I like the term "sometimer" - sometimes I remember and sometimes ... what was I talking about?? whatever!

Some folks think they are doing something wrong when they see the yellow - not me, I can of course slow it down which I like to do but that only extends the chop date with the bonus of bigger fatter buds. Corn SST and Alfalfa SST will help with that.

It's very difficult to try and keep the green AND do perpetual grow, so yeah I'm with you bro 100%. I do like to keep it green. Yeah buddy!
 
Here's a little update... coming down the back stretch and wow very close to the finish line with 3 of the 5 and maybe even 4 of 5 plants ready to chop.

Most of these ladies are getting close to 90 days in the flower tent. This strain is a 75-80 day strain (strain info says 65-72 days). I've chopped at 75 days but I feel they are not quite done and I like to let the ladies mature a little more.

The 3 plants that have a lot of yellow are close to 90 days and we can see they are finished even tho there are lots of new white pistols, looking at the leaves curling down, the plants are getting ready to give up. Time to hang them - not sure when I'm going to chop they are actually still drinking water which stopping water up take is my sign they are finished. I'm definitely going to chop at least one of them today or tomorrow. The buds are FAT AND HEAVY still lots of new white pistols but I found one seed pod on one of the ladies, thats a sure sign they are ready ..

Here's some pics of the ladies and my next round and my next round after that!! I started a bunch of seeds and have another round of clones going. Fall is coming and is my favorite time to do indoor gardening as the outdoor gardens wind down the indoor garden fires back up.


Here's a cool pic of the Big Mother side bud. She's a very homely looking lady but this pic is pretty nice, its a side branch off the main cola that we have bent over.

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Main cola of Mother bent over - easily fist sized and she's got at least a few more weeks to go

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More side branches - they are literally laying down horizontal they are heavy nugs

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another pic of Mother's big top bent over in my hand!

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close up nug shot of another lady

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top shot of cash crop - these are the densest buds I've ever grown and are Indica, this was supposed to be an auto strain but I put it in with the other ladies on a 12/12 light schedule and she's been going for quite some time well over 70 days in flower and some of that was 20/4 in the beginning of VEG.


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more Cash Crop nug shots

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more Cash Crop nug shots

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Another shot of the Big Mother side colas laying down, I've got them propped up a little. They'd have broken off by now if I didn't support them.


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Another krystalica lady

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Krystalica that is ready to harvest nug shot still white pistols but its time!

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same Krystalica that is ready to harvest nug shot still white pistols but its time!

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Big Mothers main cola bent over - very heavy and its going to be a wopper.

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more Cash Crop buds

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Cash Crop buds

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Cash Crop in her glory - main and side colas she's also ready so going to be harvest day here real soon

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Krystalica ladies plant view = lots of yellow it looks very fall like in the flower room these days

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This is the VEG room with 28 day old from up potting clones (took the cuttings at 07/15

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This is the pediatric nursery -
from upper left to upper right right - CBD Lavender (having trouble getting started),
upper right 3 in dish are - Mataro Blue
lower left - Auto Blackberry Kush (love the black buds!!)
lower right - Auto Blackberry Kush

The autos will stay in the VEG room for the duration till chop at 20/4 - right now they are 24/0 CFL nursery lamp

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And finally the Krystalica Clones at just under 30 days in veg. These will be going into the Flower room in a few more weeks. After chopping down the big ladies its time for a flower room complete tear down and clean and set back up, after 9 months of growing it's a little dirty and dirty flower room is a problem waiting to happen. Cleanliness next to Godliness as one of wise man used to tell me.

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I agree with bright light, bud color is a strong pull for me as well. Excellent update BB. So my take is you have to know your plants well enough to be able to hear them when they decide it's enough? And don't be afraid to take plants growing in LOS later?

I'm going to do a rolling harvest on my Cheese a Candy in the no-till, drop another Dark Devil seed in there and let the cheese go until I get some amber trichomes. Just a little experiment.

I was just looking at my schedules and thinking a deep cleaning would need to be scheduled at some point. Thanks for reminding me. About how often do you think you do that?
 
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