Congrats! I Have Twins! Two Plants From One Seed, Part One

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Nevermind, can't edit that one now for some reason, must be a cutoff after a reply or certain amount of time...
 
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I am gonna try and get down to that twin gene and make it more stable and occur more often. Genetics are basically alot of math with a little biology/botany thrown in, so it is possible to create a "twin" producing strain. Maybe we can do that here. I am open to suggestions and any help I can get, hopefully someone with a lab will see this and offer to run some tests on a more molecular level....Thanks again Cap'n!!!!
 
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GodsTrichome said:
Just entered POTM contest, and NOTM contest! Please vote, very hard competition for me!!!
Entered Twins for POTM!!!
420 Magazine's Plant of the Month - June 2011
420 Magazine's Nug of the Month - June 2011

Also, nominated OldMedMan as member of the month, vote for him please, BEFORE ME!!!
420 Magazine's Nug of the Month - June 2011
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Hi Buddy...no more Siamese twins Huh? Good idea! :high-five:

My friend, Thanks for the nomination. Very kind of you. :)

Wait a minute! Are you just doing this because you you want my vote for Nug and plant of the month. Just Kidding !!! Thank You my friend. May we both win!:bravo:
 
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OldMedMan said:
Hi Buddy...no more Siamese twins Huh? Good idea! :high-five:

My friend, Thanks for the nomination. Very kind of you. :)

Wait a minute! Are you just doing this because you you want my vote for Nug and plant of the month. Just Kidding !!! Thank You my friend. May we both win!:bravo:
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Yes sir, and they are doing GREAT!! And you are most welcome, well deserved in my book my friend. Daggumit, caught me politic'n, LOL!!! And Thank you kindly, I hope so too, I never win stuff like that, pretty accustomed to counting other's wellbeing as a prize, my wife adores me for that she says..On that note, how is Mrs. Jo doing? I am hoping and praying for you guys, both of you. I'm here if and when ya need me my friend, just a PM or post away. :allgood: and :namaste:
 
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GodsTrichome said:
Yes sir, and they are doing GREAT!! And you are most welcome, well deserved in my book my friend. Daggumit, caught me politic'n, LOL!!! And Thank you kindly, I hope so too, I never win stuff like that, pretty accustomed to counting other's wellbeing as a prize, my wife adores me for that she says..On that note, how is Mrs. Jo doing? I am hoping and praying for you guys, both of you. I'm here if and when ya need me my friend, just a PM or post away. :allgood: and :namaste:
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Yep, caught you! :)
Your wife is right about you. You've already proved it to me. Sure glad you joined 420...you fit in like a glove.. nothing but good things to say, no matter what. Jo thanks you my friend.....so do I. :yahoo:
 
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GodsTrichome said:
I am gonna try and get down to that twin gene and make it more stable and occur more often. Genetics are basically alot of math with a little biology/botany thrown in, so it is possible to create a "twin" producing strain. Maybe we can do that here. I am open to suggestions and any help I can get, hopefully someone with a lab will see this and offer to run some tests on a more molecular level....Thanks again Cap'n!!!!
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GT, you should talk to McCrackin about how to best accomplish this.

I've been following his journal and he knows as much or more about genetics than just about any grower I've ever met and he's a good guy who's happy to anwer questions.

His journal is here:

McCrackin's - O/Berry - Afgoo/Kush - Soil - Heavy Defoliation - 400HPS - Stealth
 
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Mr. Krip said:
GT, you should talk to McCrackin about how to best accomplish this.

I've been following his journal and he knows as much or more about genetics than just about any grower I've ever met and he's a good guy who's happy to anwer questions.

His journal is here:

McCrackin's - O/Berry - Afgoo/Kush - Soil - Heavy Defoliation - 400HPS - Stealth
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Those are nice words buddy, than you...My attention is grabbed...
If you want to preserve the twin, which by the way is WAY COOL. This is what I would do.
The separation was a good Idea if they survive.
First go 24/0 lights on. I would say the intensity of the light should be 4 bulb T-5 or greater. That way you can keep the chemicals low and keep sex off the plant until they are larger... this will also help with cloning....
Grow them up to about 1 foot each veg under 24/0. Then you will take clones of them. 2 per twin, gotta keep track...
Then bud clones to determine sex. IF you get identical twins, then you are going to have the same sex for all 4. If phraternal or something that's called chemical-diopherniensis???? (Sp) in plants, you will get mixed sex... This would be so rare I would be trying to get personally invited to your place to come see...
What I would do is this... Hopefully you get males... When the clones bud out, collect pollen, work the pollen into females collect seeds.
If you get a mix-sex, breed them together.
If you get females, then grow out the 4 clones to bud, but put one in a chamber and run 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off 5 on 6 off, 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off...etc. You will look to hermie one of the clones, then breed them with the 3 other clones... all the while keeping the originals in 24/0 to keep the science clean.
The key to making this work is that you keep the original twins under 24/0 and in straight veg... until you determine what you actually have and then you can formulate how to bring the dominance.
I subscribed to this thread... I will be looking forward to the developments.
Ltr.
 
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man that was a sick post from Mcrackin, will keep that in mind for the fututre!!
FYI
SUBBED!
;)
 
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McCrackin said:
Those are nice words buddy, than you...My attention is grabbed...
If you want to preserve the twin, which by the way is WAY COOL. This is what I would do.
The separation was a good Idea if they survive.
First go 24/0 lights on. I would say the intensity of the light should be 4 bulb T-5 or greater. That way you can keep the chemicals low and keep sex off the plant until they are larger... this will also help with cloning....
Grow them up to about 1 foot each veg under 24/0. Then you will take clones of them. 2 per twin, gotta keep track...
Then bud clones to determine sex. IF you get identical twins, then you are going to have the same sex for all 4. If phraternal or something that's called chemical-diopherniensis???? (Sp) in plants, you will get mixed sex... This would be so rare I would be trying to get personally invited to your place to come see...
What I would do is this... Hopefully you get males... When the clones bud out, collect pollen, work the pollen into females collect seeds.
If you get a mix-sex, breed them together.
If you get females, then grow out the 4 clones to bud, but put one in a chamber and run 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off 5 on 6 off, 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off...etc. You will look to hermie one of the clones, then breed them with the 3 other clones... all the while keeping the originals in 24/0 to keep the science clean.
The key to making this work is that you keep the original twins under 24/0 and in straight veg... until you determine what you actually have and then you can formulate how to bring the dominance.
I subscribed to this thread... I will be looking forward to the developments.
Ltr.
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This is one of those occasions where I am near speechless dude. :high-five::bravo: I must say that humble as I am, I consider myself having a green thumb, but I must say that you my friend, are lightyears ahead. For me, I haven't the knowledge to plan that out as you, dude that's , that's even in terms that I understand and know a little bit about. :yahoo: I gotta stop and thank you Mr. Krip, :high-five::passitleft: Thank you soooo much for your interest in helping me with this matter, +rep for you no hesitation my friend!!!:Namaste: And McCrackin, Thank you again, and the invitation is officially given my friend, just don't be surprised if I picked your brain some more my friend!!!! Well, sorry to go, but daddy duty calls, gotta catch up on :420: LATE tonight.. Peace and My prayers are for you all, Also please head over to OMM's spot and give em some words of encouragement if everyone would, him and his wife are going through some rough times....:peace:
 
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Hi Buddy! :cheertwo:

Don't ya love 420? Help appears when you need it, and great help too.

McCrackin has just helped us all. Will probably use his answer as a guide. :high-five:

Jo's a bit better today. Thanks for your continued concern for us. :peace:
 
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OldMedMan said:
Hi Buddy! :cheertwo:

Don't ya love 420? Help appears when you need it, and great help too.

McCrackin has just helped us all. Will probably use his answer as a guide. :high-five:

Jo's a bit better today. Thanks for your continued concern for us. :peace:
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Hey my friend, :Namaste:

Yes, I love :420: very much as a matter of fact. What a great family and team to be a part of, I wish there was more that I could do to give back!! I would turn my business over and work for these guys in a heartbeat!! Seriously. And McCrackin, that dude is a savant or something, cause that is amazing, once again thank you Mr Krip and McCrackin. I suspect we could all learn something off that one!!
And I am sooooooooo glad Mrs. Jo is doing better, I been praying purdy hard for you and her both. Just keep in mind that we all are here for you guys!!:high-five::party: Much love and respect from me to you my friend, keep it green!!:peace:
 
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Hypo Hippy said:
great journal,i;m subbed

HH
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Thank you HH!!! Respect!! Stay tuned for more updates tonight or tomorrow morning, gonna spend the day on the lake with my son!!!
 
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Mr Smith said:
subscribed. Thankyou for sharing the grow.
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Thank you Mr. Smith, you have been an inspiration to me. It is an honor.:Namaste: Maybe one day I could venture to your "Wall of Bud"....Been planning to do something similar when I get the space. Pvc and 22.5's or 45's? Awesome. Simply Awesome. Peace:peace:
 
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McCrackin said:
Those are nice words buddy, than you...My attention is grabbed…
If you want to preserve the twin, which by the way is WAY COOL. This is what I would do.
The separation was a good Idea if they survive.
First go 24/0 lights on. I would say the intensity of the light should be 4 bulb T-5 or greater. That way you can keep the chemicals low and keep sex off the plant until they are larger… this will also help with cloning….
Grow them up to about 1 foot each veg under 24/0. Then you will take clones of them. 2 per twin, gotta keep track…
Then bud clones to determine sex. IF you get identical twins, then you are going to have the same sex for all 4. If phraternal or something that’s called chemical-diopherniensis???? (Sp) in plants, you will get mixed sex… This would be so rare I would be trying to get personally invited to your place to come see…
What I would do is this… Hopefully you get males… When the clones bud out, collect pollen, work the pollen into females collect seeds.
If you get a mix-sex, breed them together.
If you get females, then grow out the 4 clones to bud, but put one in a chamber and run 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off 5 on 6 off, 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off…etc. You will look to hermie one of the clones, then breed them with the 3 other clones… all the while keeping the originals in 24/0 to keep the science clean.
The key to making this work is that you keep the original twins under 24/0 and in straight veg… until you determine what you actually have and then you can formulate how to bring the dominance.
I subscribed to this thread… I will be looking forward to the developments.
Ltr.
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That's fantastic advice McC! You don't have to thank me...thank YOU! We all learn from posts like that! +reps! :thankyou:
 
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McCrackin said:
Those are nice words buddy, than you...My attention is grabbed...
If you want to preserve the twin, which by the way is WAY COOL. This is what I would do.
The separation was a good Idea if they survive.
First go 24/0 lights on. I would say the intensity of the light should be 4 bulb T-5 or greater. That way you can keep the chemicals low and keep sex off the plant until they are larger... this will also help with cloning....
Grow them up to about 1 foot each veg under 24/0. Then you will take clones of them. 2 per twin, gotta keep track...
Then bud clones to determine sex. IF you get identical twins, then you are going to have the same sex for all 4. If phraternal or something that's called chemical-diopherniensis???? (Sp) in plants, you will get mixed sex... This would be so rare I would be trying to get personally invited to your place to come see...
What I would do is this... Hopefully you get males... When the clones bud out, collect pollen, work the pollen into females collect seeds.
If you get a mix-sex, breed them together.
If you get females, then grow out the 4 clones to bud, but put one in a chamber and run 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off 5 on 6 off, 1 on 2 off 3 on 4 off...etc. You will look to hermie one of the clones, then breed them with the 3 other clones... all the while keeping the originals in 24/0 to keep the science clean.
The key to making this work is that you keep the original twins under 24/0 and in straight veg... until you determine what you actually have and then you can formulate how to bring the dominance.
I subscribed to this thread... I will be looking forward to the developments.
Ltr.
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McCracken's posts are always pretty enlightening, huh? I sometimes have to wait til I'm less high to read them, though, or I get stuck re-reading them over and over again because of my highness and inability to follow along and remember how it all connects. ;)

Glad to see you around, McC :high-five:!
 
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Mr Smith said:
subscribed. Thankyou for sharing the grow.
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GodsTrichome said:
Thank you Mr. Smith, you have been an inspiration to me. It is an honor.:Namaste: Maybe one day I could venture to your "Wall of Bud"....Been planning to do something similar when I get the space. Pvc and 22.5's or 45's? Awesome. Simply Awesome. Peace:peace:
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Hell yeah, Mr. Smith - that new set-up you have with the PVC is freakin' insane. Super mad props for that - hope you hit your gram a watt!
 
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