She’s a good looking plant beez! Can’t wait to see the colas she forms up!
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Me too Dutch. I'm playing it safe and waiting for the cuttings to have roots before I go any further with these clones.
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The first of my cuttings to show roots was the Chemdawg from Humboldt Seed Organization. It took the cutting 11 days to show visible roots in the clear solo cup in Pro Mix BX. Believe it or not these roots were not visible yesterday morning when I checked. So in about 24 hours they not only appeared but appeared with gusto.
It kind of figures that this cutting would be the first to grow out roots as the clone from which I harvested two cuttings has been growing like crazy since I up-potted her into a 1 gallon plastic pot. She had gotten so long I could no longer tie down her branches as the diameter of the pot was just too small. SO...…...today I up potted her once again, this time into a 5 gallon fabric pot. This will be my first grow in a fabric pot so I look forward to seeing how it works out. I got her gently transplanted and first dusted the hole with Great White Mycorrhizae which really seems to increase plant vigor. I know the 1 gallon pot was beautifully filled with healthy white roots. Not quite root bound but getting close.
Anyway, I got her transplanted and proceeded to tie her down. This is I think the weakest part of my growing skills. I mean I understand the principles and why it's done. I'm just not sure what to pull down, how far to pull it down, and where to pull it down. I imagine winging it like I do will to some degree allow the plant to create more vertical branches and a more even canopy. I took a few photos when I was finished just not sure how much you'll be able to tell from them. With all the branches tied down she is now filling my 2x2 tent. Anyone know how much a Humboldt Chemdawg will stretch when put into flowering?
It kind of figures that this cutting would be the first to grow out roots as the clone from which I harvested two cuttings has been growing like crazy since I up-potted her into a 1 gallon plastic pot. She had gotten so long I could no longer tie down her branches as the diameter of the pot was just too small. SO...…...today I up potted her once again, this time into a 5 gallon fabric pot. This will be my first grow in a fabric pot so I look forward to seeing how it works out. I got her gently transplanted and first dusted the hole with Great White Mycorrhizae which really seems to increase plant vigor. I know the 1 gallon pot was beautifully filled with healthy white roots. Not quite root bound but getting close.
Anyway, I got her transplanted and proceeded to tie her down. This is I think the weakest part of my growing skills. I mean I understand the principles and why it's done. I'm just not sure what to pull down, how far to pull it down, and where to pull it down. I imagine winging it like I do will to some degree allow the plant to create more vertical branches and a more even canopy. I took a few photos when I was finished just not sure how much you'll be able to tell from them. With all the branches tied down she is now filling my 2x2 tent. Anyone know how much a Humboldt Chemdawg will stretch when put into flowering?
Selling yourself short beez. Looks well tied down to me!
Nice roots. Can you explain your cloning method?
Joking! Newcomers please go here for the explanation. It works!
Nice roots. Can you explain your cloning method?
Joking! Newcomers please go here for the explanation. It works!
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How come my landscape photo turned itself back up again?
@InTheShed I'm thinking there has to be more to it then just tying down every branch long enough to reach the side of the pot. I am pretty sure I don't want to get into anything fancy schmantzy like those manifolds. I do want to try to have a more even canopy so the plant can produce more vertical branches that are similar in size.
My plant is to let her grow out some roots for about 2 weeks. Then start applying the colloidal silver to one of the branches and do this for 7 days. After 7 days of treating the single branch I'll flip her to 11/13 lighting. I will of course continue to apply the CS at lights on in the morning and again right before lights out in the evening.
I can't see not trying to make some seeds of a top quality strain such as this Chemdawg. I've never grown or smoked it but everyone I see talking about it says only great things.
@InTheShed I'm thinking there has to be more to it then just tying down every branch long enough to reach the side of the pot. I am pretty sure I don't want to get into anything fancy schmantzy like those manifolds. I do want to try to have a more even canopy so the plant can produce more vertical branches that are similar in size.
My plant is to let her grow out some roots for about 2 weeks. Then start applying the colloidal silver to one of the branches and do this for 7 days. After 7 days of treating the single branch I'll flip her to 11/13 lighting. I will of course continue to apply the CS at lights on in the morning and again right before lights out in the evening.
I can't see not trying to make some seeds of a top quality strain such as this Chemdawg. I've never grown or smoked it but everyone I see talking about it says only great things.
Maybe a chemdawg and royal gorilla cross!
The idea is that all your lowers become tops. Keep the outsides down (which tells the plant it no longer has any apical stems) and it will spread the growth auxins across the whole plant.
Once the middles fill in you let everything grow up together...all tops!
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But you keep everything tied down through harvest correct? I've seen some people who take the tie downs off after the plant stretches. Others keep the tie downs on till harvest.
If I take mine off the branches don't move anyway. The plant changes shape based on the ties. Whether yours stays will depend on how long before you flip. But once they're growing up, the ties are just there to keep the canopy even.
And open sometimes too. I untied an auto that is late in flower (that I am practising Shed’s LST method with) and over about a week, it has kind of lifted a bit so that there’s less spacer between some of the branches. I’ve pulled it back down to open things up again. So it probably depends on the plant and how its trained in the first place as to whether untying it would make a difference or have any undesirable effect.
The training looks tops to me
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I believe I am starting to see some purple color starting to show in my 2 liter bottle plants. I guess I just assumed they would all be like the first one I grew out and have a lot of purple on the buds and sugar leaves. They all have a nice fragrance and are looking good. Starting to fill out some now. Here are a couple photos.
Kismet
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Some say add some far red lights but i would ask the Sativa growers here at
Landrace Genetics 101
and the Ace plant pics thread
ACE Seeds Plant Pics
Ganjagrowergu
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The fluffy buds are very common when dealing with proper landrace sativas. I take it as a good sign that you are working with pure genetics.
I added a far Red fixture to my tent a couple weeks ago, no results to report yet as most of my brood is under 4 weeks old. Equatorial sativas really love light and can handle a bit more intensity than other genotypes, but it still may not tighten the buds up to today's standards. I will know more after this spring/summer's big sativa breeding project.
I added a far Red fixture to my tent a couple weeks ago, no results to report yet as most of my brood is under 4 weeks old. Equatorial sativas really love light and can handle a bit more intensity than other genotypes, but it still may not tighten the buds up to today's standards. I will know more after this spring/summer's big sativa breeding project.
Kismet
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The tops dense up a bit they seem to benefit from a staggered harvest regardless the sats.
BigBearNTexas
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@beez0404 Do you have any issues with pollen getting on the buds of plants you aren’t intending to seed? I worry a little bit about the pollen lingering in the tent and making babies after I’m done with the experiment.
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Hey @BigBearNTexas If you're careful you can reduce unwanted pregnancy to just about zero. It requires you to first segregate the female you want to pollinate away from your other flowering females. Then what I do is use those plastic French bread bags to slide over the branch or branches I wish to pollinate. When they are secured inside the bags I take my misting bottle and lightly mist the rest of the plant with water. In a few minutes when there is no more dripping I remove the bread bags and pollinate the buds on the still dry branches. Should any pollen accidently (and it will) land on buds you did not wish to pollinate the water will render that pollen useless leaving your bud seed free. For me I have a 2x2 tent I can put the pollinated female into for three or four days at which time I mist the branches I pollinated which will ruin any remaining viable pollen. At that point I feel comfortable putting the female back in the general population with the other flowering girls.
Now a practice I use is to only have a single source of pollen at a time. Let's say I was pollinating a Blue Dream female with pollen from a Blue Dream male and was very careful. I destroyed the male once the female was pollinated using the steps above. The female is now back in with the other girls. If when harvesting I happen to find 6-10 seeds on my White Widow plant I am extremely confident that those seeds are a cross of Blue Dream X White Widow. It's real hard with limited space to be 100% perfect but you can greatly minimize unwanted seeds if you segregate the female and mist the plant prior to pollination.
I'm just not a huge fan of mystery seeds hence just one pollen source for a run. Hope that's helpful.
Now a practice I use is to only have a single source of pollen at a time. Let's say I was pollinating a Blue Dream female with pollen from a Blue Dream male and was very careful. I destroyed the male once the female was pollinated using the steps above. The female is now back in with the other girls. If when harvesting I happen to find 6-10 seeds on my White Widow plant I am extremely confident that those seeds are a cross of Blue Dream X White Widow. It's real hard with limited space to be 100% perfect but you can greatly minimize unwanted seeds if you segregate the female and mist the plant prior to pollination.
I'm just not a huge fan of mystery seeds hence just one pollen source for a run. Hope that's helpful.
Ganjagrowergu
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Absolutely. I use staggered harvest on most of my bigger plants. No need to stagger harvest a plant that finishes at 8 inches tall, lol. But I find even a 2ft tall sativa (starting to blame the 4000k QBs for these anomalies) benefits from this.
BigBearNTexas
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Gotcha. Yeah, I read through the thread and got caught up. Sounds like the answer is yes, you do sometimes get some unplanned for seeds, but it’s minor.
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I decided to do a little sampling of some of the autoflower buds I grew recently. I was feeling old and lazy and maybe a little grumpy too. I decided to try the Tangerine Dream auto from Barney's Farm via our good sponsor @SeedsMan . I typically don't smoke many sativas as many give me that racy feeling with a rapid heartbeat for up to 30 minutes and that's not all that pleasant. This is a 60/40 sativa dominant strain. The flowers have an aroma just as described by the breeder. A little bit lemony with a dash of spice. It had a really nice flavor on the inhale and even nicer on the exhale. It was a bit harsh but I expected that as it's only been curing for a week. I slowly smoked a small bowl and have to say I'm very pleased with the results. After the 3rd or 4th hit I was feeling it in my forehead, but it was a clear high. I also noticed that I was relaxing something I don't associate with a sativa. And although relaxed I was no longer feeling lazy, hence this post and those that follow. I will be excited to sample buds off one of the Quarter Pounder auto X Tangerine Dream auto plants.
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So now that the Tangerine Dream has me feeling a little peppy I decided to do a brief update on two of the clones I was gifted. The first is the Royal Gorilla from Royal Queen Seeds found on our sponsor's @SeedsMan site. She is an absolutely beautiful plant and so agreeable to everything. She drinks a lot but so far hasn't needed more nutrients then I'm feeding her. Her color is a deep rich green. If I didn't know what she was eating I might suspect she was getting a little too much nitrogen but she's not. Her color is just darker then most plants I've grown. Right now she is in a 1 gallon pot and boy does she want to be up-potted. But I pretty much have to keep her in this pot for about 2 more weeks. I did take a cutting off of her and hope to see roots on it in the next few days. Here are a few photos of her taken today. She will be receiving a trim job sometime the beginning of this coming week.
