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Your garden is looking great as usual, Emilya. And, although I haven't tried SIPs yet, I think top watering through the transition makes sense to me.

I have a couple questions about a perpetual grow. As you know, I'm trying to implement one myself.

  1. How long do you give a seed to germinate? Do you try again with new seeds or just start your grow with the plants that did germinate?
  2. What about long-flowering strains? Does it affect the perpetuity of the grow? For example, I'm planning on planting a few strains that can go from 12 to 15 weeks.
 
Your garden is looking great as usual, Emilya. And, although I haven't tried SIPs yet, I think top watering through the transition makes sense to me.

I have a couple questions about a perpetual grow. As you know, I'm trying to implement one myself.

  1. How long do you give a seed to germinate? Do you try again with new seeds or just start your grow with the plants that did germinate?
  2. What about long-flowering strains? Does it affect the perpetuity of the grow? For example, I'm planning on planting a few strains that can go from 12 to 15 weeks.
Thank you Sweetie... and yes, you can see the results of the phasing into SIP by looking at my plants in Veg #2 and realizing their age. They got the best of both worlds; wet/dry during veg to entice root growth, and now SIP to take full advantage of those roots.

I don't give seeds more than a week out of my sight before I am actively trying to replace them. 2 weeks delay in a perpetual can really throw things off. Starting out, my rule is that I need to take at least 4 into bloom with each round, and 6 was optimal. So if only 3 came up, I am planting more... if 4,5 or 6 come up, I'm good, and that is what I send into bloom.

Long flowering strains have so far been dealt with by extending veg time on the next ones due into bloom so that the late bloomers had time to finish out. This worked until the time that my late veg girls blew up and took over the late veg room so badly that I was forced to make moves. I ended up moving some over to my bloom room already in progress, culling a few and making do as best I could. It was not pretty and I don't want to do that again. The next time I want to run a 10-14 week long plant, I am going to skip starting a round as they are entering late veg, so that there will be a one month gap in there to accommodate the long running plants. I also learned that there are few plants that you are over and done with after 8 weeks (the perfect bloom interval for perpetuals) so I stopped trying to hurry things at the seedling/clone stage. If start time is a week or 2 or 3 late... it can be helpful 2 months later when the system is clogging up on you.

Hope that helps a bit... as they say, live and learn! Good luck with yours! :love:
 
The 818 Headbands are now at Day 13 of bloom, and I think almost done stretching. The buds are looking great, and look at the frost already forming on these leaves!
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This is the day after feeding new microbes and raw nutrient, and the perfect time to make a point. I have for years used the adage that if you are not at least burning the tips, you aren't trying hard enough. I have had an ag professor explain to me why an organically grown plant, one that makes its own decisions regarding feeding, would burn its own tips. This plant is clearly sending messages to the roots, and the leaf tips, that we have enough food for now and things are perfect. A leaf tip burn is not always a burn.
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The color is perfect in here, and the plants are all deficiency and pest free. If stretch is indeed over, we are in good shape.
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The 818 Headbands are now at Day 13 of bloom, and I think almost done stretching. The buds are looking great, and look at the frost already forming on these leaves!
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This is the day after feeding new microbes and raw nutrient, and the perfect time to make a point. I have for years used the adage that if you are not at least burning the tips, you aren't trying hard enough. I have had an ag professor explain to me why an organically grown plant, one that makes its own decisions regarding feeding, would burn its own tips. This plant is clearly sending messages to the roots, and the leaf tips, that we have enough food for now and things are perfect. A leaf tip burn is not always a burn.
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The color is perfect in here, and the plants are all deficiency and pest free. If stretch is indeed over, we are in good shape.
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Lookin great in there 🙂
 
The 818 Headbands are now at Day 13 of bloom, and I think almost done stretching. The buds are looking great, and look at the frost already forming on these leaves!
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This is the day after feeding new microbes and raw nutrient, and the perfect time to make a point. I have for years used the adage that if you are not at least burning the tips, you aren't trying hard enough. I have had an ag professor explain to me why an organically grown plant, one that makes its own decisions regarding feeding, would burn its own tips. This plant is clearly sending messages to the roots, and the leaf tips, that we have enough food for now and things are perfect. A leaf tip burn is not always a burn.
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The color is perfect in here, and the plants are all deficiency and pest free. If stretch is indeed over, we are in good shape.
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Excellent point on the leaf tips. I couldn’t agree more.
 
That's a good theory about the electric and one that wouldn't surprise me out here in the country.

Someone, I think it was @ReservoirDog , got the thought into my head about how the wet/dry cycle in bloom was less than optimal. Ever since writing my watering addendum for bloom, I knew that more water was key, but I didn't consider changing over to 24/7 reservoir access. SIP has been a real eye opener and has changed how I think about watering in bloom.
I think you had it for bloom but couldn't break away from the wet/dry cycle commitment. We all gained just as well far as I can see in relation to the then knowledge base. The words you use, build roots in veg and work them like mules in flower, well something like that, really say it! It was a natural progression in afterthought. It's difficult to see out of the box when you're thinking is already out of it! 👁️👁️ Yeah I'm looking at you! Have a fine Sunday!
 
Thank you Sweetie... and yes, you can see the results of the phasing into SIP by looking at my plants in Veg #2 and realizing their age. They got the best of both worlds; wet/dry during veg to entice root growth, and now SIP to take full advantage of those roots.

I don't give seeds more than a week out of my sight before I am actively trying to replace them. 2 weeks delay in a perpetual can really throw things off. Starting out, my rule is that I need to take at least 4 into bloom with each round, and 6 was optimal. So if only 3 came up, I am planting more... if 4,5 or 6 come up, I'm good, and that is what I send into bloom.

Long flowering strains have so far been dealt with by extending veg time on the next ones due into bloom so that the late bloomers had time to finish out. This worked until the time that my late veg girls blew up and took over the late veg room so badly that I was forced to make moves. I ended up moving some over to my bloom room already in progress, culling a few and making do as best I could. It was not pretty and I don't want to do that again. The next time I want to run a 10-14 week long plant, I am going to skip starting a round as they are entering late veg, so that there will be a one month gap in there to accommodate the long running plants. I also learned that there are few plants that you are over and done with after 8 weeks (the perfect bloom interval for perpetuals) so I stopped trying to hurry things at the seedling/clone stage. If start time is a week or 2 or 3 late... it can be helpful 2 months later when the system is clogging up on you.

Hope that helps a bit... as they say, live and learn! Good luck with yours! :love:

This advice is perfect. Thank you so much for your thoughts on this. I have updated my seed planting list to skip putting seeds into water in April for the indoor plants. It's been 9 days since I planted my seeds so I've put 2 new seeds into water.

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Just as I was looking at my SIP saying to myself, these branches are so thick they won't need support in flower you write this. Your branches look girthy like mine. Sounds like SIPs make massive buds too! Sweet!
rrrrrriiiiiight.... because you thought all the SIP excitement was over.... thick branches? ..... oh, and big leaves too.... yeah I could see how that could be exciting.... to a lettuce grower. Just yankin you Otter!

Emily its great to see SIPS worked for you, plants look great. Nice work. Please keep those new strains from great sponsor seed houses rolling through your rooms and threads so we can get such a good look at the genetic potential on the market these days, it's a service of great value to customers. Just window shopping today, but soon....
 
A quick update...
All I needed to do today was to spray SNS-203 in the back corner of Bloom #1to keep after the spidermites. So far, they are below mid plant and not getting into the main colas. They have slowed down again and I am winning. I just need to keep after it on this one plant.

The rest of the buds in Bloom #1 look great as we near the end. The 5 day harvest window on the Gelatos opens up on the 18th and the Critical Kush are due on the 26th. They all appear to be right where they need to be.

Bloom #2 is looking amazing. These plants are at day #17 of bloom, and seem to be very happy.

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Bud porn from Bloom #1:
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@Buds Buddy
 
Today in both rooms was watering from the top day, feeding day or whatever we are going to call it... each plant got watered from the top with about 2/3 of what it would take to produce runoff. When I water like this, re-wetting the @GeoFlora Nutrients sitting on the surface, I can see a deeply colored liquid seeping down into the soil. There is more that breaks down to replenish this system than we realize when doing a top watering like this.

I think I have figured out part of the bug problem. I think I have mostly wiped out the spider mites again, but now there are thrips emerging from the soil and getting into the leaves on that one plant. I probably should have done a soil drench at some point here to get rid of larvae, or like I mentioned above, maybe a preventative application of nematodes is called for when I move to my final container. I will eventually solve this bug problem and have a grow that is bug free, or I won't quit trying.

At any rate, this problem so far is only really affecting the one plant in Bloom #1, but as I move about the rooms doing what I need to do, I know there is a possibility of passing the problem along. Today I sprayed the affected plant to the point of dripping and the areas of the other plants surrounding here that were closest and most likely to be infected. We are going to get to this harvest without loss.

Today is day 19 of Bloom in the room with the Candy Dawg and the 818 Headbands. They have definitely stopped stretching and the light is anywhere from 6 inches to 18 inches away from the top colas of the plants.

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In the other room, we are at day 47 of Bloom, with about a week to a week and a half predicted to be left in the O. Gelatos grow period. They are all showing us some dramatic leaf colors and the organic feeding is allowing the buds to express their full potential as far as colors go, and I hope also the THC level and terpene levels are very elevated.

The Critical Kush plants are starting to look very white and Kushy, and just loaded with Trichomes. They are still predicted to have about 2 weeks to go.

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The O. Gelatos are the ones showing the most color and will be the first to finish out. There is still no amber of any significance, but I assume it will be starting to show up by this time next week.

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In the other room, we are at day 47 of Bloom, with about a week to a week and a half predicted to be left in the O. Gelatos grow period. They are all showing us some dramatic leaf colors and the organic feeding is allowing the buds to express their full potential as far as colors go, and I hope also the THC level and terpene levels are very elevated.

The Critical Kush plants are starting to look very white and Kushy, and just loaded with Trichomes. They are still predicted to have about 2 weeks to go.

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The O. Gelatos are the ones showing the most color and will be the first to finish out. There is still no amber of any significance, but I assume it will be starting to show up by this time next week.

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Those are some Yummy looking 47 day blooms there!
 
Today I give you close up bud shots from both rooms. This first post will cover Bloom Room #1. First harvest of O.Gelato is due in 4 days. Looking at the amber starting to show up right on time confirms that the breeder's estimate of bloom time was accurate, as long as you start the clock when the plants actually start blooming. Tonight I took a test branch to start drying.

The plan for a new way of drying, trimming and curing is in place. New sealed stainless steel containers arrived today to cure in. I will be using turkey bags while getting the buds into the curing range.

Critical Kush (51 days)

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O. Gelato (51 days)

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Today I give you close up bud shots from both rooms. This first post will cover Bloom Room #1. First harvest of O.Gelato is due in 4 days. Looking at the amber starting to show up right on time confirms that the breeder's estimate of bloom time was accurate, as long as you start the clock when the plants actually start blooming. Tonight I took a test branch to start drying.

The plan for a new way of drying, trimming and curing is in place. New sealed stainless steel containers arrived today to cure in. I will be using turkey bags while getting the buds into the curing range.

Critical Kush (51 days)

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O. Gelato (51 days)

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Looking fantastic!
 
I will be using turkey bags while getting the buds into the curing range.
Scratch that. I ordered a large 12L airtight sealed stainless steel container to match the smaller ones. I will get more of all of these if I need them, but I think I have what I need for a couple of staggered harvests of 3 plants each.
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The plan is to hang the plants intact in a 65% humidity room after stripping the fan leaves. I intend to dry them so that the leaves fold over the buds and then I will run them through the roto trimmer with its serrated blade. Then the buds go in the lab clean stainless container until we burp them down to 65% RH, and then they will go to 5-6 oz containers with a Bovida 63. The goal is to not reuse any of my old mason and larger sized jars this time... we are going for a laboratory clean cure.
 
Today I give you close up bud shots from both rooms. This first post will cover Bloom Room #1. First harvest of O.Gelato is due in 4 days. Looking at the amber starting to show up right on time confirms that the breeder's estimate of bloom time was accurate, as long as you start the clock when the plants actually start blooming. Tonight I took a test branch to start drying.

The plan for a new way of drying, trimming and curing is in place. New sealed stainless steel containers arrived today to cure in. I will be using turkey bags while getting the buds into the curing range.

Critical Kush (51 days)

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O. Gelato (51 days)

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Critical Kush looks like a party on a stick Em!
 
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