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I can tell you after I feed the Haze, she needs to be fed now.
She was going to be bumped up.
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She was going to be bumped up.
No, I'm thinking she needs a heafty dose of PK and Ca and Mg. I'm thinking to get her to pump in some BE with a lower dose of MC, around 4g, and some Calmag. The CM will give lots of Ca and Mg, the BE will bring her P and K up, and the reduced MC will be fine with the extra BE in it. The Ca and Mg will also get a boost.
Hold off for a few minutes if you can VG. We may try and change your feed if OK with you.
Maybe just pour some pH'd water on it first to answer Shed's question...
You ran the numbers so it's your call as to amounts. But I'm with you on the theory.
Assuming nothing is crawling on the surface when she waters.
OK, I agree.
VG,
If nothing on the surface, and you're confident that no bugs exist, try this mix. I'll make another post shortly explaining the amounts etc.
All based on 4L. If you are using gallons it's 1.06. It adds up over 12L so your numbers change.
4g MC
2g BE
2g CMP
Mix the CMP first, then the BE, then the MC. pH as usual. Shoot for 6.4-6.5. Give room for that Ca to get in there.
VG,
If nothing on the surface, and you're confident that no bugs exist, try this mix. I'll make another post shortly explaining the amounts etc.
All based on 4L. If you are using gallons it's 1.06. It adds up over 12L so your numbers change.
4g MC
2g BE
2g CMP
Mix the CMP first, then the BE, then the MC. pH as usual. Shoot for 6.4-6.5. Give room for that Ca to get in there.
Ya
I think is a deficiency, can see tip burn so I wouldn't up base nutes too much
I feel ya VG... This Coco shit is kicking my ass
Next grow, if I do, will be DWC and or hempy.....
Soil wasn't my friend either but all I did was ffof
If I did soil is bud one like Vans or something like that, but that's more work than I want
I think is a deficiency, can see tip burn so I wouldn't up base nutes too much
I feel ya VG... This Coco shit is kicking my ass
Next grow, if I do, will be DWC and or hempy.....
Soil wasn't my friend either but all I did was ffof
If I did soil is bud one like Vans or something like that, but that's more work than I want
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See any problems using apple cider vinegar if I need it? I'm out of pH down.
Here's the breakdown.
You were giving them 6g/gal of MC only. That worked out to 9-6-17 obviously, which is a 3-2-5.2 ratio. The actual amounts of N-P-K were the following:
N = 64.8 (Amount used x N value)
P = 43.2
K = 122.4
Now we are reducing the MC to 4g, adding BE and CMP of 2g each. Your new NPK combined value is 7-8-19. More N P and K have been added. This keeps your N load at 185... a little high but I think you'll be fine. You may see some tip burn but nothing severe. I had to go this route based on what you have available. Any less and we wouldn't be hitting the right mix.
This gives you a new NPK ratio of 1.3 - 2 - 4.3.
Your new values are as follows:
N = 74.4
P = 82.76
K = 192.36
So you get a 11% Ca boost, plus 3.5% Mg boost. Your P and K values have gone up greatly and your N load for the tip burn should be OK. It's easy to see on paper, so hopefully it all makes sense to you.
You were giving them 6g/gal of MC only. That worked out to 9-6-17 obviously, which is a 3-2-5.2 ratio. The actual amounts of N-P-K were the following:
N = 64.8 (Amount used x N value)
P = 43.2
K = 122.4
Now we are reducing the MC to 4g, adding BE and CMP of 2g each. Your new NPK combined value is 7-8-19. More N P and K have been added. This keeps your N load at 185... a little high but I think you'll be fine. You may see some tip burn but nothing severe. I had to go this route based on what you have available. Any less and we wouldn't be hitting the right mix.
This gives you a new NPK ratio of 1.3 - 2 - 4.3.
Your new values are as follows:
N = 74.4
P = 82.76
K = 192.36
So you get a 11% Ca boost, plus 3.5% Mg boost. Your P and K values have gone up greatly and your N load for the tip burn should be OK. It's easy to see on paper, so hopefully it all makes sense to you.
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I also have Sweet Candy if it matters.
Wow, yes it does!!!!
Hang on. I don't like BE. We can do better since P is not really an issue.
Hang on. I don't like BE. We can do better since P is not really an issue.
5g MC
4g SC
1g CMP
Mix CMP, SC then MC. pH as required.
You wont get tip burn this way and your K goes up. You also get a healthy dose of Sulfur with the SC.
4g SC
1g CMP
Mix CMP, SC then MC. pH as required.
You wont get tip burn this way and your K goes up. You also get a healthy dose of Sulfur with the SC.
The SC wants to clump, so make sure you mix it well. The PPM of your mix will be high and put you in a range around 1100.
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I sat there for about 10 minutes and saw absolutely no movement.
You are doing yeoman's work MrS. :brilliant:
Go with the new formulation and give it until the weekend to show signs of improvement (which is to say not spreading, as the existing damage is done).
OK the new newer formula is as follows.
NPK quantity of combined products = 6-3-15, which is a ratio of 2-1-5. Normally you want to be around 2-1-3, so we're almost perfect with the increase in K.
Now those new values equal the following:
N = 69.6
P = 36
K = 172.4
N went up slightly, P dropped slightly, and K went up quite a bit. You are giving more Ca, Mg and S as well. Your N load is 169 which is just outside of the 150 recommended range. I do believe if your issues are defs you have to see an improvement.
If not, I was never here
NPK quantity of combined products = 6-3-15, which is a ratio of 2-1-5. Normally you want to be around 2-1-3, so we're almost perfect with the increase in K.
Now those new values equal the following:
N = 69.6
P = 36
K = 172.4
N went up slightly, P dropped slightly, and K went up quite a bit. You are giving more Ca, Mg and S as well. Your N load is 169 which is just outside of the 150 recommended range. I do believe if your issues are defs you have to see an improvement.
If not, I was never here
Where's the laugh/love/thanks emoji?
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Ok. Sounds good.
GZ has all but stopped drinking. Her soil is evenly moist and hasn't been fed in almost a week. The rh was pretty high during that time also. I'd like to get some of this into her. Reluctant to give her any liquids though.
GZ has all but stopped drinking. Her soil is evenly moist and hasn't been fed in almost a week. The rh was pretty high during that time also. I'd like to get some of this into her. Reluctant to give her any liquids though.
Fans at (virgin) ground level should help with fabric pots.
Maybe she locked herself out. I don't think I ever went a week without watering during flower. 3 days max.