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just checked my seeds looks like the taproots gonna be long enough in a ew hrs to throw into the plug
theyre both about 1/2 inch as of now
theyre both about 1/2 inch as of now
ChronicHemphog's - DWC - Advanced LEDs - Time to Grow - Grow
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ok theyre in the rooting plug at about 1/2 to 5/8 inch on the taproot
I just didn't wanna leave it and forget it and have the root growing in the paper towel lol
had that before and its not hard to gingerly tear apart the paper towel and get the taproot free lol
I just didn't wanna leave it and forget it and have the root growing in the paper towel lol
had that before and its not hard to gingerly tear apart the paper towel and get the taproot free lol
All these words... eeesh I am feeble, show me the pictures! 
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I usually do one every week on sunday but ill get my camera out for you today
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ok here it comes as requested by Buckshot
I hope this one puts a smile on your face Buck
ok heres the rest that I took
sundays my usual day ill get better pics of the 2 veg plants since I take it down for res change but until then
above is my og kush mom my what a bushy girl
chemdawg then gdp
ok my seed plants and one clone in airpot that is not a seed plant im just letting it grow out in soil keeping it small just so I don't throw rooted clones away
if looking closely notice the pod split open where the seed is
ok next pics on sunday
I hope this one puts a smile on your face Buck
ok heres the rest that I took
sundays my usual day ill get better pics of the 2 veg plants since I take it down for res change but until then
above is my og kush mom my what a bushy girl
chemdawg then gdp
ok my seed plants and one clone in airpot that is not a seed plant im just letting it grow out in soil keeping it small just so I don't throw rooted clones away
if looking closely notice the pod split open where the seed is
ok next pics on sunday
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oh yea that og kush mom that's only on one side of the light
the other side looks like this side also
its growing around the light as the light cant go higher
the other side looks like this side also
its growing around the light as the light cant go higher
That was very cool! Thank you CHH
Ah Cronic, thanxx for the Friday preview. That's got to be the coolest Doggy pic ever; He's posing!- Thread starter
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lol he is a she hehehehe
she was actually in there snooping about I made her come out but her face was still in there
just a quik call and a click of the camera
the best shots are ones no ones ready for
anytime Buck
I still gotta continue on your journal from page 31 lol
she was actually in there snooping about I made her come out but her face was still in there
just a quik call and a click of the camera
the best shots are ones no ones ready for
anytime Buck
I still gotta continue on your journal from page 31 lol
cronic, how much would I expect to pay for a good quality 150 watt led light?
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im not using the cheapest lights available especially since they are made in the usa using quality led's
the 100 watt diamond series lights im using run about 300 a piece
the 150 watt cree xml lights run almost 500 a piece
I would watch the grows using the top led light made in china they are cheaper and since so many people are trying them now it would be good to sit back watch and see how well they produce they might be worth the price
I personally tend to believe you get what you pay for its just my experience but
the top led rep seems to be around a lot on site giving support and that's one of the main things you want from
someone selling their products
I would just watch peoples journals and see what you can use and be happy with
cause in the long run you gotta be happy with what you spend your money on if not itll just be a waste
I myself love these advanced led's but they are a bit pricey
maybe one day after the led's hit their time limit ill look into it again as technology always moves ahead who knows maybe better and better cheaper and cheaper in the future
the 100 watt diamond series lights im using run about 300 a piece
the 150 watt cree xml lights run almost 500 a piece
I would watch the grows using the top led light made in china they are cheaper and since so many people are trying them now it would be good to sit back watch and see how well they produce they might be worth the price
I personally tend to believe you get what you pay for its just my experience but
the top led rep seems to be around a lot on site giving support and that's one of the main things you want from
someone selling their products
I would just watch peoples journals and see what you can use and be happy with
cause in the long run you gotta be happy with what you spend your money on if not itll just be a waste
I myself love these advanced led's but they are a bit pricey
maybe one day after the led's hit their time limit ill look into it again as technology always moves ahead who knows maybe better and better cheaper and cheaper in the future
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ok as far as lumens go this is what they say
Q: What is the Lumen output for your LED grow light?
A: Lumens are a measure of the light seen by the HUMAN eye. Plants do not see the same light that humans see and therefore lumens are irrelevant when it comes to plant lighting. Our LED Grow Lights produce light in the wavelengths that plants need the most. Only a small percentage of the light produce by an HID light is absorbed by plants which means that 80% of the Lumens are wasted.
so if im not mistaken you have to look at in terms of par? not lumens
looking for what they say about that
Q: What is the Lumen output for your LED grow light?
A: Lumens are a measure of the light seen by the HUMAN eye. Plants do not see the same light that humans see and therefore lumens are irrelevant when it comes to plant lighting. Our LED Grow Lights produce light in the wavelengths that plants need the most. Only a small percentage of the light produce by an HID light is absorbed by plants which means that 80% of the Lumens are wasted.
so if im not mistaken you have to look at in terms of par? not lumens
looking for what they say about that
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LED Grow Lights - Lumens vs PAR Test (Ongoing)
Before we begin, please answer the following question:
Which light do you would think is the best for growing plants that fruit or flower?
1. A full spectrum light (warm white) with very high Lumen output.
2. A light with low Lumen output but high PAR output(when compared to light #1).
Although this is a loaded question that is hard to answer, most people would choose 1. For the past twenty years HID(HPS and Metal Halide) lights have been the main workhorse for so many indoor growers and the high Lumen output has been the benchmark for measuring a lights potential. If you are growing plants that fruit or flower you really need high light intensity but not high Lumens, just high PAR. I know this may seem shocking but our latest tests have proven this.
We tested two lights against each other, the first light was our control light using our 180w Extreme Flower LED grow light, the second was the same as the 180w except the entire light was built from extremely high output white LEDs from Bridgelux. This test light used all 3w LEDs and was tested for both Lumens and PAR against the control light. The tests showed that the test light had 500% more Lumen output(comparable to HIDs) than the control light but the control showed a surprising 130% higher PAR output than the high Lumen test light.
Although light meter tests can be helpful they are nothing compared to a true grow test. In our grow test we used the same wattage, same growing medium, same plant strain, same temperature etc. We started the plants in two different grow tents side-by-side and kept all the conditions the same including light time. During the first few days of the seeds sprouting the high Lumen lights seem to win out over the Extreme Flower LEDs as the sprouts grew taller and began to set leaves slightly faster. Again for the first leaf sets it looked as though the high lumen light might actually beat the control light due to slightly faster vegetative growth and taller plants. At week two the high lumen light was taller than the control light but the number of leaf sets was the same and the internodal spacing was beginning to stretch. At week three it became obvious that the control light plants, although shorter, were much more dense and had a higher growth rate than the high lumen light. The internodal spacing on the control light was tight and the leaf sets were seperating extremely fast with lush vegetation. The high lumen light showed signs of stretching and less branching, with an overall growth rate that seems to be less than the control light so far.
This test is still ongoing with but the Extreme Flower LED Grow Light(control light) is showing fast dense growth. So far the test is showing that higher Lumen output is not a good indicator of plant growth potential. It would seem to indicate that proper color output(high PAR output) mixed with high light intensity leads to the dense plant growth many indoor growers are looking for.
We will update this grow test with flowering data and yields as they become available.
Before we begin, please answer the following question:
Which light do you would think is the best for growing plants that fruit or flower?
1. A full spectrum light (warm white) with very high Lumen output.
2. A light with low Lumen output but high PAR output(when compared to light #1).
Although this is a loaded question that is hard to answer, most people would choose 1. For the past twenty years HID(HPS and Metal Halide) lights have been the main workhorse for so many indoor growers and the high Lumen output has been the benchmark for measuring a lights potential. If you are growing plants that fruit or flower you really need high light intensity but not high Lumens, just high PAR. I know this may seem shocking but our latest tests have proven this.
We tested two lights against each other, the first light was our control light using our 180w Extreme Flower LED grow light, the second was the same as the 180w except the entire light was built from extremely high output white LEDs from Bridgelux. This test light used all 3w LEDs and was tested for both Lumens and PAR against the control light. The tests showed that the test light had 500% more Lumen output(comparable to HIDs) than the control light but the control showed a surprising 130% higher PAR output than the high Lumen test light.
Although light meter tests can be helpful they are nothing compared to a true grow test. In our grow test we used the same wattage, same growing medium, same plant strain, same temperature etc. We started the plants in two different grow tents side-by-side and kept all the conditions the same including light time. During the first few days of the seeds sprouting the high Lumen lights seem to win out over the Extreme Flower LEDs as the sprouts grew taller and began to set leaves slightly faster. Again for the first leaf sets it looked as though the high lumen light might actually beat the control light due to slightly faster vegetative growth and taller plants. At week two the high lumen light was taller than the control light but the number of leaf sets was the same and the internodal spacing was beginning to stretch. At week three it became obvious that the control light plants, although shorter, were much more dense and had a higher growth rate than the high lumen light. The internodal spacing on the control light was tight and the leaf sets were seperating extremely fast with lush vegetation. The high lumen light showed signs of stretching and less branching, with an overall growth rate that seems to be less than the control light so far.
This test is still ongoing with but the Extreme Flower LED Grow Light(control light) is showing fast dense growth. So far the test is showing that higher Lumen output is not a good indicator of plant growth potential. It would seem to indicate that proper color output(high PAR output) mixed with high light intensity leads to the dense plant growth many indoor growers are looking for.
We will update this grow test with flowering data and yields as they become available.
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Cant wait to watch. Got here just in time.
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actually a perpetual grow its why were at page 71 but your in time for the next round
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Glad to have you aboard thanks for stopping by and saying hello
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ok so I had a lot of trim sitting about so I decided to screen it hash making old school style
heres my silk screen
I don't know why they still call it a silk screen they don't use silk anymore lol
first pass got some green in the first pass not much but I know when I press it the colors gonna come out
you can see the darker green on the edges
heres the second pass
and a side by side first pass on the left second on the right press in the middle
you can see its a little more tan brown on the first pass and slight bit more green on the second
im gonna press it tomorrow its almost 1:30 am I gotta sleep lol
heres my silk screen
I don't know why they still call it a silk screen they don't use silk anymore lol
first pass got some green in the first pass not much but I know when I press it the colors gonna come out
you can see the darker green on the edges
heres the second pass
and a side by side first pass on the left second on the right press in the middle
you can see its a little more tan brown on the first pass and slight bit more green on the second
im gonna press it tomorrow its almost 1:30 am I gotta sleep lol
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ok im gonna do some pressing as soon as I can motivate myself to do it lol
Damn Cronic, You're all on top of your game! I love your light theory. Ground breaking research.
Things always seem to be a lot more concrete when researched & reviewed by someone you know & trust their judgement. Reps my little hemphog.
Things always seem to be a lot more concrete when researched & reviewed by someone you know & trust their judgement. Reps my little hemphog.
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ok I gotta be honest with you its not my research but advanced led's research
credit where credit is due
I just do a lot of reading before I jump into things