Cherries DubeLee In A S.I.P. - An LOS Grow

lootznbootz said:
Same I was looking for info on possibly building my own smaller 3Gal Sips I love a good DIY
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I do them in 2G buckets and shared my design on page 2 of the #SIP Club thread.
 
Azimuth said:
Ummm, probably not. With the SIPs I find there is a 2-3 week transition period at the beginning for the roots to morph over to the ones they'll need during which time the plant appears to be not doing much, at least in above the ground terms. That time needs to be factored in as well if you're on any kind of schedule like a perpetual harvest like I do.

But once you're thru that period growth will explode. In my cabinet I plan on 2 weeks of initial transition plus 4 full weeks of veg and then flip. In @Buds Buddy 's tent grows he vegges longer for bigger plants.

So I wouldn't count on time savings in veg unfortunately.
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Being a dreamer that seemed the path. Thanks for the facts!
smokesbetter said:
I popped in to the SIPs Club and looks very interesting form the results i seen skimming through .
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Yeah they were having so much fun I figured I'd give it a try.
lootznbootz said:
Same I was looking for info on possibly building my own smaller 3Gal Sips I love a good DIY
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DIY is in my blood! I just didn't have it in me this time.
 
Azimuth said:
Hey Stone/Bode, those are some pretty good reasons, though, no?

I'll give Bode my standard invitation to come check out #SIP Club if he has any interest in a deeper dive, but I think you hit some of the biggest advantages. Plants grow bigger with less effort simply because of the way the pots are constructed. There is a built in air gap between the water reservoir and the soil which provides a constant air source to the the bottom inner roots. And, because of the reservoir, the plant has constant access to water and nutrients so there is no pause in growth like you'd get from the wet/dry cycle.

The roots are essentially entirely the very fine feeder roots since the plant doesn't have to go searching for water. And, as Stone said, watering times are essentially non-existant. The total time you'll spend watering is however long it takes you to pour a gallon or so of water down a 1" tube.

Growing with them has some quirks, like I find it generally takes 2-3 weeks for the plant to convert its roots over to the roots it will use from the water seeking ones most of us start with, and if not done well can lead to droopy plants for a bit, but really no harm done.

I think I've also seen a dramatic reduction in the time for the flip to flower but I need more reps to be sure. I'm growing a new to me CBG strain that showed pistils on day 3 after flip when normally it takes me more like 7-10 days. Could totally have been the strain though. Emilya mentioned she thought she noticed some speed up in the plants she grows in SIPs as well. That is something we'll all have to pay closer attention to on subsequent rounds.

So, basically coco or hydro type results, but done in soil, and works with all kinds of media and nutrients. Like Stone, I grow using organic methods, but plenty of growers use bottled nutes, so it's a very flexible platform. And I think it is the ideal platform to use for growing auto's for most growers as improper watering is the most common cause of stunting those types of plants.

They are great for new growers because they take the learning curve away for proper watering, but benefit experienced growers as well. They're not for everyone I suppose, but I have yet to hear of anyone who's tried them that regretted the decision. I'll likely never not grow in them again and am converting most of my houseplants over to them as well.
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Do you find you have to water more often with SIPs? I'm usually on a 3 day schedule in soil but they will take 2gals or more each time (8gal grow bags). I'd imagine with 1 gal SIPs you water more often?
 
Timhomegrow said:
Do you find you have to water more often with SIPs? I'm usually on a 3 day schedule in soil but they will take 2gals or more each time (8gal grow bags). I'd imagine with 1 gal SIPs you water more often?
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Yes, once they get established it's everyday.

But there's really no time involved like normal watering in a soil pot. For these we literally just pour the water down a 1" tube until it comes out the drainage hole, and it won't take too many tries before you learn how much that is.
 
smokesbetter said:
I think main thing is they don't slow from waiting on water .
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Correct. @Buds Buddy has taken to watering his 5 Gallon bucket SIPs twice a day. He's doing an experiment with some he does once a day and others twice. The twice a days are bigger plants.

Of course his are large plants and produce more than a pound in those 5G buckets.
 
Timhomegrow said:
Do you find you have to water more often with SIPs? I'm usually on a 3 day schedule in soil but they will take 2gals or more each time (8gal grow bags). I'd imagine with 1 gal SIPs you water more often?
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I'm not on line yet. Soon!
 
GETTING IN THE GROOVE, THE WATERING GROOVE BABY, UPDATE

Hello to you all, and the best to you on this fine day! Looking in on these today I can see they have picked up well and have begun to strengthen! This week we should see some nice growth! Here's what's happening in tent B today. Let's hope the B stands for BODACIOUS at some point! Tent A has some big bright and welcome changes coming I'll tell you about soon! 🥳
So these little darlings are 11 days old I'll say, give or take a day. Here's the history of all that's been done. Water only so far. I have the light emitting 420 PAR now. I need a better pen.
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After water on the 4th day they should make a big push!
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Just an inch and a half tall
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Go make the best day ever! Peace! :woohoo:
 
It's so nice when all the little ones are about the same height Stone.

Looking forward! :Rasta:
 
StoneOtter said:
GETTING IN THE GROOVE, THE WATERING GROOVE BABY, UPDATE

Hello to you all, and the best to you on this fine day! Looking in on these today I can see they have picked up well and have begun to strengthen! This week we should see some nice growth! Here's what's happening in tent B today. Let's hope the B stands for BODACIOUS at some point! Tent A has some big bright and welcome changes coming I'll tell you about soon! 🥳
So these little darlings are 11 days old I'll say, give or take a day. Here's the history of all that's been done. Water only so far. I have the light emitting 420 PAR now. I need a better pen.
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Go make the best day ever! Peace! :woohoo:
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Perfect little Angels. :love:
Morning Stone.:ciao:
I had everything in note books aswell.
But you know what happened there.
I'm glad Rob keeps all our info for us.
Wish I transferred those notes to one of my threads. :rolleyes:
Your girls are so cute, going to be fun seeing them become great big Ladies. :yahoo:
Great things to come. :thumb:
Take care my friend.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 :cool:
 
smokesbetter said:
They look good for 1.5 " , Nice spread !
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Thanks Smokes! They're starting to enjoy themselves I think.
Grand Daddy Black said:
It's so nice when all the little ones are about the same height Stone.

Looking forward! :Rasta:
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It is, too bad these won't be competing for canopy space. 3 seedlings in and only one will survive! Two, two will survive. My Niece says she'd like one if I get a second lady.
Bill284 said:
Perfect little Angels. :love:
Morning Stone.:ciao:
I had everything in note books aswell.
But you know what happened there.
I'm glad Rob keeps all our info for us.
Wish I transferred those notes to one of my threads. :rolleyes:
Your girls are so cute, going to be fun seeing them become great big Ladies. :yahoo:
Great things to come. :thumb:
Take care my friend.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 :cool:
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Notes are life!, and yes Rob is doing us a great service storing our gro info! I still feel the need to double up on the things I feel necessary in case of emergency. Like no satellites working for a while, or maybe a weird law change.
I do believe great things are about to come though!
 
7Dust2 said:
Gotcha . Found ur new journal for like third time now. Lmao. Good deal bro u got babies and I just popped mine for next year's grow
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Let's not run out! EVER!
 
Trala said:
Hi Mr O

Our little girl is just the cutest!

🌸🤍🌸🤍🌸🤍
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Hi Tra, thanks, welcome home! All charged up again? it's a blessing to visit the coast like that!
Big Sparks said:
Looking good so far ! Just doing a drive by to check in things.
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If you see smoke, stop by later for some brisket Sparks!
 
LUCKY DAY 13 UPDATE

Good day all! These babies are so cute I want to pinch their little fat cheeks! So far so good on day 13 of establishing a wet/dry cycle for max roots. I still haven't really gone to runoff by more than a drop or two. Next time, then BOOM they should come on strong.
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Got the tent all cleaned for the @Herbies Seeds run! Probably next week, maybe sooner! Cha cha cha changes coming! I'm psyched! I'm off to pick out seeds, brb.
 
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