Ahh thanks! Like Mel said it must be to give them a bit of a jump start when the roots do appear. ↓
I wonder if anyone really gets iron, zinc, copper, and manganese deficiencies in just-rooted clones, though they're probably just covering their bases. Total amounts of chelated nutes are under 1% of the solution, and that's true in most synthetics like FF, GH, MC, etc.
Me too, about yours!
Yes, if you're going to use that solution for your hydro grow, you would need the correct pH to access all of the nutrients (not just the tiny amount of chelated ones). Of course anyone growing in hydro is going to pH their water!
"soak medium for several hours or add to Aeroponic system."
I used to use the same aeroponic cloner that Otter is using (build here) and never pH'd the water. As has been mentioned, pH only relates to the uptake of nutes by the roots, so until there are roots the pH doesn't matter (within reason of course
). Once there are roots you can move your plants into their final medium, and if that's hydro you would be pH'ing your water at that point as hydro requires.
I will continue to just use RO water and plant them when the roots tell me too.
I use Clonex too.
I think he hit it on the head.
Here's the roots my last time.
Your clone game is on Tra!
One of the best things about growing is that there's so many ways to do things!Interesting conversation about cloning. I dip my cuttings in cloning gel and pop them into perlite. When I see strong roots they get transplanted into a seedling pot (same size as solo cup) and watered carefully sso that their rootss have time to develoop and strengthem (this time I put mine on a swick and that did the watering for me.) I am growing in craft LOS in 20 L cloth bags.
@Azimuth et al, does sub-irrigation work in a similar way delivering ph'd nutes to the roots? And, it's not necessary to PH if you are growing in LOS, ammirite? I certainly don't but I am also aware that our tap water is fine and I leave it to dechlorinate before filling the reseroir.
If my plants look a little untidy it is my ham fistedness.
Beeautifull Sunday friends
And, checking a bottle if the Clonex gel, it does not mention pH like it does on the cloning liquid so it does seem like that step on the liquid versiom is for after the roots form.
Yes, it seems to, at least in a SIP since we have roots down at the water level. I'd imagine it would work the same with a Swick unless the elements of the nutes were somehow too heavy for the wicking action to lift them, but I would be surprised if that were true. @Hash Hound could likely confirm that.
Within reason, True. In an organic grow, the microbes and roots handle moving the pH around as needed.
Hey Nev! Nice thoughts you're having! Warn thoughts back to you!Top of the week to you Stone as your days start lengthening and the Sun returns.
To longer warmer days!
Here is some info on what chelates are and what they're for:
There is no such thing as water pH drift in soil. Water quickly becomes the pH of the soil (yes, even in small closed containers!), not vice versa. However, soil pH can change over many months because of nitrogen type or water with high alkaline content.
As I have stated earlier, Im not a hydro or coco guy and I'm not trying to start an argument, just learning, so without understanding or trying to pick a fight I ask the following question...
It's not incorrect to call them salts at all, though calling them "salt" makes it confusing. Most of the ingredients that make up synthetic nutes are salts.
But when they are wet they are no longer salts as per your links, so its confusing. If they arent salts why would you be flushing salts? Are they letting the medium dry?
If you prefer you can call them ions, but they tend to be referred to as salts, maybe because it looks like there's a salt accumulation on the outside of cloth grow bags!
