ChemDawg D BX 3

Thanks everybody :) My soilless mix still isn't in town yet; the online tracking said tomorrow. The 6 mother rejects are keeping in the 6" pots even though they're big. I left the 200 watt blue spectrum CFL in with them until I do the transplant to the 2 gallon pots, which is also helping with height as well as size control. I'll put the 300 watt red spectrum one in later. I fed two of the original clones some aerated compost/manure tea today, and I'll feed the clone closest to chop the same tea tonight. The parents are isolated under a 125 watt red spectrum CFL (Sooperlokker). The smallest clone of the original is alive, but isn't doing anything yet.
 
Gonna have to support a few of these thinner branches (CDDBX3 clone):

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The mother rejects, starting to get buds :)

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I don't think the mess looks all that bad. This isn't too bad for frost as young as they are:

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Notes: The CDDBX3 clone that's second to chop looks Ca deficient. I'm not going to use CaMg+ at normal strength anymore; too many plants seem to show Ca and Mg deficiencies.
It all fell into place for the 6 mother rejects; the plants seemed to have hardened off at a reasonable height (I'm not 100% sure they're done stretching, though) and I put them all in 2 gallon plastic pots of SSM#4 Advanced just now. I used some GWS along with the Calmag to get the roots going, and put the 300 watt red spectrum CFL in the unit also.
The bad news is that both parents were victims of a very touchy timer switch; they have been on continuous light for about a week now. I accidentally bumped the timer and now the father slowed way down in its flowering. The female looks like it's starting to reveg; it's gotten taller too.
I may take my second choice of mothers out of the reject unit and switch it out with the one that's revegging in a day or two to rectify the situation. Post more pics soon.
Oh, and PotChimp gets the shrunken frontal cortex of the year award for that bonehead move>>>>> :scratchinghead:
 
ouch here have a bag :volcano-smiley:
 
Here's a flower from the second choice for this CDDBX3 mother; I switched them last night:

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All the females look alike at this point. I've seen plants change a lot towards the end, though. If I can get bulk from it and decent potency, I can cross it with some of this other stuff I got going on. The nice health of this plant is because I'm using a full nute program (FF).
I decided to use up my Biolink 3 part liquid nute program on these clones I keep doing for that same reason. I need to get liquid kelp; my granular kelp isn't breaking down in these compost/manure teas, and a lot of my plants I'm using it on are suffering from deficiencies in K, Mg, and Ca.
 
Notes: A single cluster of flowers developed ahead of the rest on the father in my breeding project. It dumped right onto a leaf, so I cut the leaf off and rubbed it on one of the top female buds. Both plants are looking healthy. The mother rejects are healthy too, but the first choice of mothers is taller than the rest and looks weird from going back into veg and coming out again; I hope it doesn't hermie.
As for the clones, the shortcomings in my compost/manure tea that are showing slightly at the end of my BID tribute grow are showing more here. All 3 of the flowering clone are showing K, Ca, and Mg deficiencies. The 3 part organic program I bought a while ago to take over these current plants and try to solve this problem with (Biolink) seems to have a septic tank-like smell to it. The last organic bloom formula I used about 2 years ago had the same smell, so if these all go bad I know I have to dump this gallon of nutes down the drain. And if they recover a bit, I know not to panic when I smell the sewer smell.
The small clone I took isn't taking yet but it isn't dying either. :)
 
I gotta adjust this homemade formula some. I'm going to get some liquid kelp as soon as I get paid to correct the K deficiency. Using heavy feedings of CaMg+ right from veg should correct the Mg and Ca deficiencies in future grows. Here's the second to chop CDDBX3 clone:

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that one went South fast on me..... :(
 
Wow I just realized that the clone in the last pic is 8 weeks from the first hairs, so it's not such a bad thing that it looks that far gone. I fed it for the last time tonight because the ones in the past seem to go at 9-1/2 to 10 weeks. I went with my Biolink OMRI certified organic bloom and micros, some GWS, and (an old company that used to be on good standing here's) 3 supplements. I fed the other 2 CDDBX3 clones the same mix. Now on the other hand the parents in the breeding project and the mother rejects are all getting fed with FF, and they're doing good. I don't think the buds are as fat as they should be because of being grown under a CFL. We'll see how that goes :)
 
In my opinion, neither one of those buds look too shabby Chimp.
 
Note: I put the 6 mother rejects under a 400 watt HPS today. I'll get a pic up tomorrow; they look healthy and stable but not too impressive as far as bulk goes; hence the reason for the light intensity increase. Got a few more changes to do over the next few weeks from unit to unit but it's looking good all around :)
 
The mother rejects and the first pick for mother under the 400 watt HPS:

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They look similar, but we'll see how they look in a few weeks. Here are flower pics from different plants:

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I am going to give them all nutes today. The mother and father look about the same; that's going along well. More pics soon :)
 
PotChimp said:
Thanks man but as far as yield, you're getting half as much out of a beverage cup as I get out of a full size growing container :thumb:*

*or maybe not :thumb: for me..... :(
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I know, right Chimp... That Solo Cup harvest shocked the crap out of me. If I could get that same weight "per square inch" of pot size man, forget about it.
Those Mother Rejects are looking pretty nice.
 
Niiiice :thumb:
 
Well here's what I decided on. All the breeding project plants will keep getting FF, and I'm going to go with my AN Iguana and AN plus other supplements for the CDDBX3 clones.
I bought a GO box today for my Skunk #1 grow, and I'm going to compare all the liquids in it to the AN products I have to see what I'm missing in this partial AN nute program I use. So far I see micronutrients, humic and fulvic acids, a K supplement, and a grow formula supplement missing. I have all those things here from other makers to add to the AN Iguana stuff. I'll mix some nutes up tonight for one clone and the first mother pick, which I put in under the 600 watt HPS to give the 5 mother rejects more room under this 400 watt HPS.
I found out the other day that the organic Biolink formula I used on these 3 clones is bad, but I don't think it hurt them much.
 
The bad nutes got the 3 clones worse than I thought, but they'll live. Two of them are really close to chop, and the last isn't that bad (I'll get pics up later). So as a comparison, this is what plants are supposed to look like when kept on a full nute program:

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By the way, here's the mother for generation 5:

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This is what plants wind up looking like when the nutrient program isn't complete and you try to make up for it with a certified organic nutrient program that is complete, but rotted:

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This one has a lot more time left; I'll pull it out easily enough (I have to defoliate all of these plants anyway):

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