CFL Light Tutorial

Zip ties are like premolded silicon...gj :thumb:

:bigtoke:

Zip ties....cable ties....oh yes...i have used them as a belt, to hold a distributer cap on in a race situation, for tying down females, for tying down female plants, as hair clips, and the list goes on.

Here is what I do to avoid the dreaded "meat hook" when cutting the tails off.

1. I do not cut them off. I take my "lineman" which are a pair of pliers that electricians use. a small pair of pliers will do. Small vise-grips also work.
Grasp the plastic as close to the lock as possible....and twist. Twist a few times and the tail should come off. With no sharp edges.

or

2. Take a razor knife. A good one with a sharp blade....and cut the tail directly outside of the lock....this is the best way to make a clean cut.

and when you want to take them off.....carefull if you use them to tie plants down...especially when taking them off. Because you may slip and do something that you will not want to share with the group.

grab the lock with your pliers/lineman/tooth/teeth/and twist....should break them right off.

I have found this method for bending a plant down.
Make a small loop with the tie around the branch in question....then tie a weight to another tie and loop to the first.

This way I can cut the weight and not the plant if/when I need to.

AND always remember that you can Daisey chain the ties to make a longer one. This is the secret to my "New Age Jethro" rope belt. But stay frosty as someone will walk up from behind to give your new belt a little tug....and before you know it....you will look like you are smuggling grapes.


After wire nuts, grounding pigtails, good electrical tape, and GFCI recepticles....cable ties are next on the scrounge list.
 
Thats ok! You can't take up too much space for other things or else you wouldn't be MostlyCrazy! Sorry I couldn't resist.


Hey can any one throw out some temps on reflectors for comparison. Such as 400 HPS reaches ?F. Adding the additional bulbs slightly increased temps. I can hold my hand on it without moving but it is nice & warm.

I ran the new 6x since yesterday and all seems well. The good thing is with the lights floating about 5-6 inches from tops, it is maintaining at about 76F. No fan yet but there is a passive venting setup.

THE VERY BEST INFORMATION I HAVE READ (PICTURES TOO) on reflectors is by Jorge Cervantes in The Medical Marijuana Bible.

I was given this book along with my fist clones and it is a wealth of information. And the electrical section was so good I had to give him props so I emailed him. And the man emailed me back a week later.

Anyway..the book is well beyond the 25 or 30 bucks....

He actually did a test with all the popular reflectors in a 10x10x10 cube room he built with 12" x 12" grid markings on the floor and walls. And he measured. Too much to list here...but check it out.
 
Here it is, finally!!!

My FPF/Matagrowa inspired CFL PVC light setup is finished! I have a 200 watt cfl with reflector, incorporated into the PVC frame, which has four sockets. I have two 85 watt(5000K) and two 42 watt(2700K), in for the test. I plan to use all four 85 watt in the future, to make a 370 watt, mega CFL veg light. Here are some pics.

I didn't tidy up the zip-ties yet in this pic!
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This is SICK
 
This is SICK

TheAnswer,

that is awesome! Really Awesome! 370 watts! WOW, all in one tidy hood! GREAT!

I agree, excellent DIY light!

+rep

Thanks gentlemen! I was pleased with the results, now I gotta get something ready to try it out!

Awesome indeed!

I would switch the bulbs around a bit and give myself 1 blue and 1 red per side. Otherwise you may have strong vegatative growth on the side with the most blue.

Good point MC, I have a multitude of different bulbs, so I will try all kinds of different combos.
 
Here goes a stupid question but let me explain why i am asking it. From reading the CFL section here ( GROW LIGHT SELECTION - Hydroponic Gardening-Hydroponic Systems ) when adding the watts do we use the Watt the bulb is rated or the watts that the bulb is equivilant to out putting? Because I have been adding up the regular CFL watt rating not its equivilant wattage in incandescent form to figure out how many bulbs I need. wish i was nice right now so i could blame it on:grinjoint:
 
The actual wattage is what you use Myzz. No question is a stupid question. we are all learning together. :peace:
 
Hey myzz, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask bro. You use the actual watts not the equivalent. You have been doing it right. :peace:
 
The actual wattage is what you use Myzz. No question is a stupid question. we are all learning together. :peace:

Lol then maybe a silly question. Think I might be reading too much about one topic sometimes. So if i use 12 42w bulbs I have 504w total right? I do not use its incandescent equivalent to figure out my total watts are correct?

NVM cool thax 420 warrior.
 
FryingPanFlyer -- Many thanks to you for sharing that great bit of everyday engineering and having expanded upon Matagrowa's already ingenious design. Between this thread and your contribution I have really been set on my side about lighting. Years ago I grew outside and soon I will be entering the realm of Hydro/cab growing. My intention was to alternate two BCNL producers while maintaining moms and clones in a cab of my own design. After having seen your application of common sense and practicality, I thought I'd be foolish for not rethinking my approach... notwithstanding the economic commitment of prefab systems such as those mentioned. To perhaps expand on your innovative design, I'm now wondering what the value would be in enlarging your clever use of materials into a squared-out double "M" shape lighting frame wherein the lights would be located up the left pillar, across the top horizontal, down the right pillar and of course similar placements down the center pillar. Not having calculated the light requirements I'm ill informed to furnish the #of bulbs and their values as yet. But with a reasonably sized cab this this could be a low energy, low temperature, and low cost alternative to HID. The one thing that this design thought does not address however, is it's inability (at this point) in NOT offering articulation so as to adjust the lighting closer to the plants. It seems to me there is little to no loss to be had in going total CFL. Oh well... back to the drawing board.

Roseman & Matagowa -- You have furnished me nearly endless ponderings and possibilities. Just when I thought I had it figured out and my path was clear. I am grateful for your imparting your knowledge and experience and causing me pause. You are Green Gods among men.

After having sponged this forum for twice the information I could ever digest, I am looking forward to implementing ANY system at this point and will gladly post my progress once started.

Thank you one and all!
 
I finally got to read through most of this & decided to share my cheap effective diy reflector.

It consists of a 5x24 vent piece, a dual light socket, electrical plug, two Y adapters & some wood. I just cut of the end of the vent that was crimped mostly for aesthetic reasons, cut some wood for the ends & nailed in place with finishing nails. Center your dual light socket and drill a hole, bolt it in, wire it up and put in some bulbs.

Seems to be working great! At the moment I have 4 42W 6500K 2800 lumens on the inside for a total of 800W equivalent & 11,200 lumens per reflector. Under $15.00 without bulbs anyway.







I went a different route with your idea thanks!!! :nicethread:


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Dam thing is bright! :cheertwo: Thanks Pres, Roseman you CFL lighting studs... LMAO :peacetwo:

That's 19 X 27 watt bulbs... for 33,000 + lumens in the 2700K and 5000K spectrum :smokin:

It's 26X30" and made out of a 8" piece of pipe...
 
I went a different route with your idea thanks!!! :nicethread:


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Dam thing is bright! :cheertwo: Thanks Pres, Roseman you CFL lighting studs... LMAO :peacetwo:

That's 19 X 27 watt bulbs... for 33,000 + lumens in the 2700K and 5000K spectrum :smokin:

It's 26X30" and made out of a 8" piece of pipe...

You sure did. :grinjoint:
 
sweet!

One thing you guys might want to consider if you haven't done so is to drill a few holes so the heat can escape.

Trapping all that heat in there will decrease your bulb life at the least, and may pose a safety issue if it gets hot enough.

Good point SS! I made mine yesterday with fam,friends hanging out... So it was being built as a "shop light" to go over my work bench... I will however be doing the same vent as I did to this one... It's my DIY ghetto hood It's not a CFL hood so PM me with any Qs!!! It is just here to show my venting peeps!

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The CFL hood will have 4" I just didn't want to start cutting vents and ducting on a "shop light" with people around... + reps for me not pointing that out in the first place... :peacetwo: :cheertwo:

And guys the wiring looks like crap I braided it so I can add more later on... It is however all grounded,soldered and double heat shrink...
 
FryingPanFlyer -- Many thanks to you for sharing that great bit of everyday engineering and having expanded upon Matagrowa's already ingenious design. Between this thread and your contribution I have really been set on my side about lighting. Years ago I grew outside and soon I will be entering the realm of Hydro/cab growing. My intention was to alternate two BCNL producers while maintaining moms and clones in a cab of my own design. After having seen your application of common sense and practicality, I thought I'd be foolish for not rethinking my approach... notwithstanding the economic commitment of prefab systems such as those mentioned. To perhaps expand on your innovative design, I'm now wondering what the value would be in enlarging your clever use of materials into a squared-out double "M" shape lighting frame wherein the lights would be located up the left pillar, across the top horizontal, down the right pillar and of course similar placements down the center pillar. Not having calculated the light requirements I'm ill informed to furnish the #of bulbs and their values as yet. But with a reasonably sized cab this this could be a low energy, low temperature, and low cost alternative to HID. The one thing that this design thought does not address however, is it's inability (at this point) in NOT offering articulation so as to adjust the lighting closer to the plants. It seems to me there is little to no loss to be had in going total CFL. Oh well... back to the drawing board.

Roseman & Matagowa -- You have furnished me nearly endless ponderings and possibilities. Just when I thought I had it figured out and my path was clear. I am grateful for your imparting your knowledge and experience and causing me pause. You are Green Gods among men.

After having sponged this forum for twice the information I could ever digest, I am looking forward to implementing ANY system at this point and will gladly post my progress once started.

Thank you one and all!

Plus REP for you bro. Very glad you are here.
 
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