Lady Antheia
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Sue, what differences do you notice between Critical Mass and Critical Cure? I looked at these when I was trying to choose my first seeds.
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Dave Groomer
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Is this your first one Dave? This strain was my all time favorite smell in flower, very close to the Jamaican Dream, but with a deeper resonance to her. Someday I'll run another. I'm certain from smell alone and the way it lit up my neurons that this one may be the strain for me. I'm enjoying the CBD Critical Cure so much though that I don't feel the need at the moment to start one of these. Sherry at Gorilla Seeds sent me a pack of 10 just for grins. Just so everyone knows they're here. ::
yup. First one.
Lady Antheia
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Update on my CBD strains. Candida is up and growing well. Seems to be catching up nicely to the Blue Dream CBD that has always been in the lead. Candida already has tiny baby leaves in the middle about to come out. 
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Critical Mass is 1:1 and Critical Cure can come in closer to 2:1, CBD:THC. I used them interchangeably with the daughter with no ill effects when we made the change. The Critical Mass smells more appealing to me, but the fragrance of the Critical Cure isn't all that bad. There's a point in her maturity, just before harvest, where she smells like an infant's dirty diaper, one that's breastfed. An odd distinction, I know, but that's the smell she gives off.
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Thanks for that warning Sue, I will not be growing Critical Mess! Nasty
Heavens no, qaza, don't deny yourself this fabulous plant because of a couple days of unusual odors.
You misunderstand. The smell of a dirty diaper from a breastfed infant isn't a disgusting thing at all, just not something you want to be smelling all the time. Lol! It's more of a dank cheesy smell than the smell of feces.
Lady Antheia
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Like SweetSue said, it's not the smell you would expect. I've always thought that there was a little yeasty odor to it.
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That may well be what I'm thinking, Lady Antheia. Yeasty, but also just a little cheesy, which is a common smell in cannabis. I wonder how long it'll take me to recognize the smells of the major terpenes? Thing is, the combinations can change the fragrances in ways we'd never suspect and no one really understands. I listened to a panel of lab experts admit that no one can tell you what makes the fuel smell in cannabis. We simply don't understand how the terpenes interact with each other, or with the cannabinoids to cause those exotic aromas. Cannabis is the only plant to present this diversity in terpene expression. Most plants get one or two, possibly a few more. Cannabis?
They don't have the equipment to tell you that yet at a usable commercial level. Look at all the knowledge we're going to have the chance to learn.
What a time to be alive! 
Hey.... been meaning to tell you, nice name change. What prompted it, if I may be so bold?
50 years ago I used to leave the house come nappy change! I suppose one could go shopping for a nose filter.
That may well be what I'm thinking, Lady Antheia. Yeasty, but also just a little cheesy, which is a common smell in cannabis. I wonder how long it'll take me to recognize the smells of the major terpenes? Thing is, the combinations can change the fragrances in ways we'd never suspect and no one really understands. I listened to a panel of lab experts admit that no one can tell you what makes the fuel smell in cannabis. We simply don't understand how the terpenes interact with each other, or with the cannabinoids to cause those exotic aromas. Cannabis is the only plant to present this diversity in terpene expression. Most plants get one or two, possibly a few more. Cannabis?
Look at all the knowledge we're going to have the chance to learn.
Hey.... been meaning to tell you, nice name change. What prompted it, if I may be so bold?
Lots of other herbs have terpene variations, but the corporations narrow them down to very few that they want to ship.
We are growing a 'hot and spicy' oregano in the garden that hits with the spiciness per cc of a serano chili - Not your average oregano terpenes, but an excellent choice for my wife as she has a nightshade alergy.
Basil comes in lemon, chocolate, cinnamon, clove, ...
Lady Antheia
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That may well be what I'm thinking, Lady Antheia. Yeasty, but also just a little cheesy, which is a common smell in cannabis. I wonder how long it'll take me to recognize the smells of the major terpenes? Thing is, the combinations can change the fragrances in ways we'd never suspect and no one really understands. I listened to a panel of lab experts admit that no one can tell you what makes the fuel smell in cannabis. We simply don't understand how the terpenes interact with each other, or with the cannabinoids to cause those exotic aromas. Cannabis is the only plant to present this diversity in terpene expression. Most plants get one or two, possibly a few more. Cannabis?
Look at all the knowledge we're going to have the chance to learn.
Hey.... been meaning to tell you, nice name change. What prompted it, if I may be so bold?
Thank you! I think it is a much better fit for me and really have bonded with it; I like history, world religions, and mythology. The old one just came out of the depths of my mind as a common nickname for me. Too bad that I soon realized there was one other place I had used it that was attached to my cell phone and email. All is well that ends well, since I love this one.
Back to the terpenes....it is truly fascinating the complex world of terpenes and other elements that may be in this plant that we are unaware of, as yet. The same can be said for the rest of the botanical world! Just think of the hundreds and thousands of years of herbal wisdom that kept us well and thriving as a species. I will never understand the thought process of those in the pharmaceutical world that think they can isolate one substance and ignore the rest of a plant that evolved with us for a reason.
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Thank you! I think it is a much better fit for me and really have bonded with it; I like history, world religions, and mythology. The old one just came out of the depths of my mind as a common nickname for me. Too bad that I soon realized there was one other place I had used it that was attached to my cell phone and email. All is well that ends well, since I love this one.
Back to the terpenes....it is truly fascinating the complex world of terpenes and other elements that may be in this plant that we are unaware of, as yet. The same can be said for the rest of the botanical world! Just think of the hundreds and thousands of years of herbal wisdom that kept us well and thriving as a species. I will never understand the thought process of those in the pharmaceutical world that think they can isolate one substance and ignore the rest of a plant that evolved with us for a reason.
Hubris and greed. As simple and complex as that. We knew we'd found better ways to cultivate crops and destroyed countless acres of top soil. We knew oil was the way to go, and we tossed out renewable resources for the cheap fix. We knew processed foods were the answer to the nutritional needs of the planet, and instead we damaged people's endocannabinoid systems with an overload of omega-6 fatty acids. We knew out pharmaceuticals were the salvation of man and unleashed a myriad of new epidemics that we'd avoided by eating whole foods and using herbal medicines.
We are the most exasperating species, aren't we?
Time to show off my bevy of CBD beauties.
Before I begin with the pretty pictures.... Dick, here's a link to the blog I did on the fresh harvest oil. It's so potent that I'm standing here right now trying to decide on a brownie containing 75 mg of THC or a capsule made with an oil containing no more than 10% THC and 15% CBD. Quite frankly, the euphoric experience of the capsules is far superior to anything I've had with my Carnival brownies. That's really hard for me to believe, but it's been going on consistently for a week now. Yesterday I had a brownie in the afternoon instead of a capsule, and the combination was enough that I didn't do more than take a few bong hoots before bed at 2 AM.
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Thank you so much for this Sue. I will get to reading later tonight after work. I am currently trying to help a friend with her symptoms from fibromyalgia. She has not tried cannabis products yet so I have been doing a lot of explaining to her about how it works and what she will need. For now we are going to find her some mild dosage tinctures and capsules to see how they work for her, only problem is that with a despensary sometimes you don't get a full list of info on the product when it comes to what strain was used or if it is sativa/indica. So we will be trying a few things for her but eventually I plan to use some of my own plants to help her when they are ready, this is partially why I have been asking a lot about these products and ways to make them. And i sure have found the right person and place to ask these things
Anyone here deal with fibromyalgia that has some comments or info into treating this with cannabinoids? From what I gather it comes from it is a form of cannabinoid deficiency that happens in the body, so what not better to treat it with but cannabis!
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Thank you so much for this Sue. I will get to reading later tonight after work. I am currently trying to help a friend with her symptoms from fibromyalgia. She has not tried cannabis products yet so I have been doing a lot of explaining to her about how it works and what she will need. For now we are going to find her some mild dosage tinctures and capsules to see how they work for her, only problem is that with a despensary sometimes you don't get a full list of info on the product when it comes to what strain was used or if it is sativa/indica. So we will be trying a few things for her but eventually I plan to use some of my own plants to help her when they are ready, this is partially why I have been asking a lot about these products and ways to make them. And i sure have found the right person and place to ask these things
Anyone here deal with fibromyalgia that has some comments or info into treating this with cannabinoids? From what I gather it comes from it is a form of cannabinoid deficiency that happens in the body, so what not better to treat it with but cannabis!
All disease is symptomatic of deficiency in the ECS. If your ECS is healthy and vibrant you won't get sick or fall into depression. You'll spontaneously heal, the way you're evolved to.
mouser
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Thank you so much for this Sue. I will get to reading later tonight after work. I am currently trying to help a friend with her symptoms from fibromyalgia. She has not tried cannabis products yet so I have been doing a lot of explaining to her about how it works and what she will need. For now we are going to find her some mild dosage tinctures and capsules to see how they work for her, only problem is that with a despensary sometimes you don't get a full list of info on the product when it comes to what strain was used or if it is sativa/indica. So we will be trying a few things for her but eventually I plan to use some of my own plants to help her when they are ready, this is partially why I have been asking a lot about these products and ways to make them. And i sure have found the right person and place to ask these things
Anyone here deal with fibromyalgia that has some comments or info into treating this with cannabinoids? From what I gather it comes from it is a form of cannabinoid deficiency that happens in the body, so what not better to treat it with but cannabis!
Interestingly enough, one of the people Im growing for suffers from fibromyalgia, and so far her goto for pain relief every time is Blue Venom...which has negligible CBD and is quite frankly too strong for me to smoke at all (so not in Sue's league
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Interestingly enough, one of the people Im growing for suffers from fibromyalgia, and so far her goto for pain relief every time is Blue Venom...which has negligible CBD and is quite frankly too strong for me to smoke at all (so not in Sue's league
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Dick, I went looking at Leafly and their patients find the following strains particularly helpful to treat fibromyalgia:
* Blue Dream, for its ability to lift the mood, the myrcene content to relax the muscles, and CBG to aid with inflammation and foster an end to insomnia.
* Harlequin, for the high CBD content to reduce inflammatory response and reduce pain without overwhelming euphoria.
* Cannatonic for the same pain relief offered by Harlequin, but also to reduce pain, anxiety, and muscle spasms.
* Critical Mass for relief of pain, depression, insomnia, and muscle spasms, among other benefits.
* Tahoe OG for sleep, and it's ability to melt tension from the body.
* Granddaddy Purple, a lovely strain that offers myrcene and CBG to help relax muscles and control pain, similar to Blue Dream, with the added benefit of reducing stress, anxiety, and depression. Without all those things bothering you it's easier to maintain a positive mindset.
* Girl Scout Cookies for the high THC. They recommend you dose carefully with new patients.
* Blueberry for deliciousness of taste and the delightful way it has of mellowing the world out.
* Bubba Kush will relax those muscles and get the eyes closing so you can forget the pain and go to sleep to regain the strength for the next day. Good sleep is such an important consideration, isn't it? Few things do this as well as a strong Kush.
* Headband, preferred by those who suffer with headaches, and for its rich myrcene and CBG content to help relax muscles and control pain. In Leafly's words "Not only does this sweet-tasting indica treat physical symptoms, its pacifying euphoria loosens the grip of stress, anxiety, and depression to help you stay positive."
* Blue Dream, for its ability to lift the mood, the myrcene content to relax the muscles, and CBG to aid with inflammation and foster an end to insomnia.
* Harlequin, for the high CBD content to reduce inflammatory response and reduce pain without overwhelming euphoria.
* Cannatonic for the same pain relief offered by Harlequin, but also to reduce pain, anxiety, and muscle spasms.
* Critical Mass for relief of pain, depression, insomnia, and muscle spasms, among other benefits.
* Tahoe OG for sleep, and it's ability to melt tension from the body.
* Granddaddy Purple, a lovely strain that offers myrcene and CBG to help relax muscles and control pain, similar to Blue Dream, with the added benefit of reducing stress, anxiety, and depression. Without all those things bothering you it's easier to maintain a positive mindset.
* Girl Scout Cookies for the high THC. They recommend you dose carefully with new patients.
* Blueberry for deliciousness of taste and the delightful way it has of mellowing the world out.
* Bubba Kush will relax those muscles and get the eyes closing so you can forget the pain and go to sleep to regain the strength for the next day. Good sleep is such an important consideration, isn't it? Few things do this as well as a strong Kush.
* Headband, preferred by those who suffer with headaches, and for its rich myrcene and CBG content to help relax muscles and control pain. In Leafly's words "Not only does this sweet-tasting indica treat physical symptoms, its pacifying euphoria loosens the grip of stress, anxiety, and depression to help you stay positive."
Thank you so much for this Sue. I will get to reading later tonight after work. I am currently trying to help a friend with her symptoms from fibromyalgia. She has not tried cannabis products yet so I have been doing a lot of explaining to her about how it works and what she will need. For now we are going to find her some mild dosage tinctures and capsules to see how they work for her, only problem is that with a despensary sometimes you don't get a full list of info on the product when it comes to what strain was used or if it is sativa/indica. So we will be trying a few things for her but eventually I plan to use some of my own plants to help her when they are ready, this is partially why I have been asking a lot about these products and ways to make them. And i sure have found the right person and place to ask these things
Anyone here deal with fibromyalgia that has some comments or info into treating this with cannabinoids? From what I gather it comes from it is a form of cannabinoid deficiency that happens in the body, so what not better to treat it with but cannabis!
My wife has fibromyalgia and treats with various oils, herbs, and dietary changes. She consumes about 2/3-1 oz per week of cannabis, mostly smoking. This amount is somewhat limitted by availability. Switching strains around helps avoid building up a very high tollerance. Snoop Dogg or Willie could probably smoke her under the table, but us mortals don't have anywhere near her tollerance. She chooses her 'daily blend' from the available sativa and indica to fit the symptoms of the day, grinds up several grams, and smokes and vapes as needed. I plan to get her on an infused oil administered topically for the neuropathy in her feet, as I massage them almost daily anyway. She enjoys getting high as well as treating her pains and other symptoms.
The goal is treatment, not cure. As I understand it, Fibromyalgia is best treated by monitoring daily symptoms. Unlike cancer, schedules like '7 drops 4 times a day' may not work as well as '1-3 drops per hour as needed.' Prescription pharmaceuticals messed my wife up badly before she switched to medical marijuana, but after 3 years of cannabis, her bloating, weight gain, liver problems, etc are getting much better. Some of her daily herbal supplements have been discontinued.
Ahh, makes sense, learn something new every day
Interestingly enough, one of the people Im growing for suffers from fibromyalgia, and so far her goto for pain relief every time is Blue Venom...which has negligible CBD and is quite frankly too strong for me to smoke at all (so not in Sue's league
Thanks for that mouser, I will look into this strain for sure. Might be something for me to pick up in the next round of beans!
Dick, I went looking at Leafly and their patients find the following strains particularly helpful to treat fibromyalgia:
* Blue Dream, for its ability to lift the mood, the myrcene content to relax the muscles, and CBG to aid with inflammation and foster an end to insomnia.
* Harlequin, for the high CBD content to reduce inflammatory response and reduce pain without overwhelming euphoria.
* Cannatonic for the same pain relief offered by Harlequin, but also to reduce pain, anxiety, and muscle spasms.
* Critical Mass for relief of pain, depression, insomnia, and muscle spasms, among other benefits.
* Tahoe OG for sleep, and it's ability to melt tension from the body.
* Granddaddy Purple, a lovely strain that offers myrcene and CBG to help relax muscles and control pain, similar to Blue Dream, with the added benefit of reducing stress, anxiety, and depression. Without all those things bothering you it's easier to maintain a positive mindset.
* Girl Scout Cookies for the high THC. They recommend you dose carefully with new patients.
* Blueberry for deliciousness of taste and the delightful way it has of mellowing the world out.
* Bubba Kush will relax those muscles and get the eyes closing so you can forget the pain and go to sleep to regain the strength for the next day. Good sleep is such an important consideration, isn't it? Few things do this as well as a strong Kush.
* Headband, preferred by those who suffer with headaches, and for its rich myrcene and CBG content to help relax muscles and control pain. In Leafly's words "Not only does this sweet-tasting indica treat physical symptoms, its pacifying euphoria loosens the grip of stress, anxiety, and depression to help you stay positive."
Thanks for doing that Sue! I hadn't gotten around to leafly yet to look at anything as I was busy learning about fibromyalgia itself first. This will be a good list to look at along with the Blue Venom that mouser had pointed out. If I can add some of these to my garden for the future it would certainly help. you have been a great deal of help lately, can't thank you enough!
I need to get studying now.. I just got a little blasted myself haha
Good points and thank you Radogast. I guess I should have mentioned that she does not want to smoke or vape her medicine. She has never been a smoker and would prefer to take everything orally. She doesn't really want that crazy high like a lot of us look for, which is why I was leaning towards something more sativa during the day but in low doses to start of course, she doesn't use cannabis in any way right now so it may not take much. It will mostly be working out doses and strains, but all this info still helps Radogast, thanks.
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Rad, have you tried an infused oil in capsules for her at all? If she can find a baseline that manages most of her symptoms while her body heals she'd only have to fall back on vaping or smoking for breakthrough. I bet my life she'd love the buzz I've been enjoying with this fresh harvest oil. It's my favorite baseline so far. This is the most delightful euphoria.