Canna's Perpetual Motion -2 Tents Super Soil 5 Strains 2200W Perpetual Medical Garden

Re: Canna's Perpetual Motion-2 Tents Super Soil 5 Strains 2200W Perpetual Medical Gar

ok folks, high brix are in the house, just got my box in the door and am opening it as we speak.

first thing i notice is the shipping label. i am a legal grower so it isnt a massive deal but i dont know my mail lady from joseph and prefer her to not know whats going on. the label reads very clearly CANNAPHARMS, big security concern to me that ill admit had me a bit upset before i was even inside. upon opening the packaging is nice, plenty of peanuts nice and tight so there wasnt much chance to shift.

digging through the peanuts and revealing the contents im a bit confused, i seen icemuds vids in which he has nice spray bottles individually labeled.i was under the impression all items were labeled according to state and fed regs. and that the spray bottles were included, especially for 75 bucks. thats the cost of an entire batch of super soil. this was not my case, the brix stress tea concentrate conditioner etc arrived in cannisters not unlike those used for film. convnient however they lack any labeling, no analyses, and no directions no spray bottles. there is two seperate amendment bags one marked amend the other marked recondition as well as a bag labeled "root zone" however again there is no labele no analysis no directions. i dig further hoping to find the highly sought guarenteed analysis and directions but to no avail. i have high expectations for the results of this side by side however i am very very skeptical and weary of using anything without full knowledge of what it contains and their ratios. ive spent the money so i will follow through with this test, but i will be honest in saying if i bought a "box kit" at a local store and i opened it to find what i found in here i would have promptly returned the contents for a refund.

upon further inspection of the canister bag it seems one was improperly sealed or mishandled in shipping as the inside of the bag is wet and smells like serenade soaked cow shit. i wont point fingers as i know how usps can be with packages, but all these coupled i am a bit soured by the experience. hope nothing ive said is taken personally doc as that isnt my intention, i have the utmost respect for you and what your trying yo get off the ground there, but there are some basics that i feel have been greatly overlooked and had i known would honestly have not ordered the kit. but none the less the show will go on , please send me detailed instructions on what when how much etc. thanks guys pics to come as things progress. much love :Namaste:

Yeah....it's hard to believe that weed can be grown without fancy packaging and rastaman labels! :ganjamon:

Directions are on page 5 of "In the Lab with Doc Bud." (last line of my signature) I have the directions online for two reasons:

1.)They are changing all the time as I "dial it in."
2.)The thread with the instructions functions as a tutorial.

I can email you directions if you don't want to print them out.

As far as NPK.....screw it. Toss it out the window. We're not concerned at all with NPK. We're concerned with minerals and biota in the soil.

The Amendment is about 40% calcium in various forms, along with some organic plant food, a bit of kelp, some phosphate, and a bunch of micro's all in the correct ratios.

RootZone is mycorhyzza.
Conditioner is concentrated biochar mostly.
Tea is concentrated polyphenolic acids and bacteria---very strong.
Transplant is mostly fishy ferts
Energy is 15-0-0 8 Ca.
Brix is fishy ferts, dextrose, Amaze and PGR all mixed up in the right ratio's
Stress is a kelp based spray that mildly bumps the plant slightly to the growth side of things.....roots, leaves, etc.
The cationic drench is 5-12-1 8 sulfur.

Did I miss anything else?

What leaked? How much leaked? There's extra of everything liquid, so if it only leaked a little, you'll be OK. If it leaked alot, I'll send you a replacement.

75 bucks includes shipping, which is 12.00.
Packaging materials another 2.00
Material in the kit about 30 bucks, my cost.

I think it will be worth it.
 
Re: Canna's Perpetual Motion-2 Tents Super Soil 5 Strains 2200W Perpetual Medical Gar

I'm sure it is but IMO I shouldn't have to look any further than a label for directions. And something like this should have a Calender shipped with. I grow for 2 cancer patients one of whom has hyper sensitivity so it is very important to me to have a guaranteed analysis with a list of derivatives. He always asks to see them and will honestly likely deny the brix bud no matter the quality based solely on the fact that he doesn't know what he's getting. Now lets be clear I'm not too upset and I trust in docs word. I have no doubt its completely safe. I doubt there's any heavy carcinogens or pgrs but that only eases my mind lol.
 
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I'm sure it is but IMO I shouldn't have to look any further than a label for directions. And something like this should have a Calender shipped with. I grow for 2 cancer patients one of whom has hyper sensitivity so it is very important to me to have a guaranteed analysis with a list of derivatives. He always asks to see them and will honestly likely deny the brix bud no matter the quality based solely on the fact that he doesn't know what he's getting. Now lets be clear I'm not too upset and I trust in docs word. I have no doubt its completely safe. I doubt there's any heavy carcinogens or pgrs but that only eases my mind lol.

There is absolutely none of the following in the kit:

1.)synthetic plant growth regulators
2.)carcinogens

Everything is 100% natural, most of it organic, except that certain minerals aren't "organic" even though they occur in nature. (politics) It is all food grade, designed for growing nutrient dense, healing foods.

If you absolutely must know the NPK of everything let me know.

As far as using products based off of the label......toss that idea. That's NPK thinking. This is High Brix. We're not feeding plants anymore.....we're feeding soil. NPK makes no sense in High Brix.
 
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Thanks for the reply doc. I'm sure of it as well. But I assume u want honest infiltered feedback and I'm always good for it feelings or ego be damned lol. They are minor tweaks but some discretion in shipping and printed directions and analysis of the products is a must for me and mine. U could include a link to your thread so they could see any updates or changes that may have taken place as u dial it in. That aside state laws here in Oregon are insanely strict about labeling and analysis, not sure how it might come back on you if u were shipping unlicensed product. So if nothing else than a security precaution. Not sure about the bureaucracy.or how it works regarding that... of course I'd never tell but its something to consider. I have no doubt ill be happy just little things like that that zap precious minutes from my day.. something I don't have many of anyway. Thanks again for tge speedy reply doc.
 
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As for what leaked idk lol. Not much of it just enough to wet the inside of the bag and make it smell like straight sheep colon lol
 
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Thanks for the reply doc. I'm sure of it as well. But I assume u want honest infiltered feedback and I'm always good for it feelings or ego be damned lol. They are minor tweaks but some discretion in shipping and printed directions and analysis of the products is a must for me and mine. U could include a link to your thread so they could see any updates or changes that may have taken place as u dial it in. That aside state laws here in Oregon are insanely strict about labeling and analysis, not sure how it might come back on you if u were shipping unlicensed product. So if nothing else than a security precaution. Not sure about the bureaucracy.or how it works regarding that... of course I'd never tell but its something to consider. I have no doubt ill be happy just little things like that that zap precious minutes from my day.. something I don't have many of anyway. Thanks again for tge speedy reply doc.

These are custom blended ferts. As such, they require no labeling.....the raw materials do.
The broadcast (amendment) comes is big plastic bags. The minimum order is for 1000 sq. feet. No NPK labeling, but they do list ingredients.

I'm just getting this off the ground, and kits right now are all Beta's. I've mentioned that several times on several threads.

As far as discretion is shipping.....no laws broken, no illegal substances, nothing hazardous or dangerous. Nothing to worry about. This stuff is for food anyways.

If things continue as they are, I'll spend some money on different containers and fancy labeling.....and charge more.

As for what leaked idk lol. Not much of it just enough to wet the inside of the bag and make it smell like straight sheep colon lol

This stuff is designed to be diluted, big time. It's made to go through industrial sprayers and fertigation equipments, so it's very concentrated and incredibly stinky. The soil loves it. It mixes quickly and won't clog anything.

Did I mention that it stinks? Yeah.....it does.:Namaste:
 
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If it don't stink ur doing it wrong lol for sure.

No worries man just some feedback and again you would know all that better than I and that aspect wasn't a concern for me either way. High brix is gonna happen come hell or high water if the sensitive patient doesn't want it the other half of harvest will be his usual anyway.

"He gets the snicklefritz" lol

All I'm saying is people like directions when they open a box ;) not like they were hard to find on here of course jus' sayin :)
Anyway everything's all squared away ill be getting the HP tomorrow or the next day and get it cooking then decide which strains to run. More on that in a month or two. Thanks for the hookup doc I'm confident it will be an awesome run full of fruit!
 
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If it don't stink ur doing it wrong lol for sure.

No worries man just some feedback and again you would know all that better than I and that aspect wasn't a concern for me either way. High brix is gonna happen come hell or high water if the sensitive patient doesn't want it the other half of harvest will be his usual anyway.

"He gets the snicklefritz" lol

All I'm saying is people like directions when they open a box ;) not like they were hard to find on here of course jus' sayin :)
Anyway everything's all squared away ill be getting the HP tomorrow or the next day and get it cooking then decide which strains to run. More on that in a month or two. Thanks for the hookup doc I'm confident it will be an awesome run full of fruit!

When I pull the trigger on this and spend the capital and make it a "real" business, then everything will be labeled, etc.

But this is just one guy with a passion, trying to help out other folks. What you have there was handled by me. I wrote the labels with barely legible scrawl.....(I'm a doctor), I poured the disgustingly smelly fish juices and other nasties. I packaged, printed, drove to the post office, etc.

And I did all that damn quick. 51 kits ordered and shipped so far and ALL OF THEM shipped on the exact day there were paid.

I may not have labels and Rastamen.....but I do have customer service. You'll get the best I can offer. I hold nothing back. I want you to succeed as much or more than you do!

RE: sensitive, skeptical patients. Once he tries it, you won't have a problem.

Wash it! Please tell me you're going to wash the buds.....
 
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Always wash the buds mate. ;)

I kindof like the handwritten bottles. Like a keepsake for when ur a big wig selling the good stuff Haha. That's a large portion of why I supported it and gave it a try I know its just you doing something ur passionate about. Anyone can relate or be inspired by that.

I was just thrown off as I hadn't read the directions page just followed a few journals. I'm looking forward to the end of this comparison. The anxiety is already getting to me :blunt:
 
Re: Canna's Perpetual Motion-2 Tents Super Soil 5 Strains 2200W Perpetual Medical Gar

When I pull the trigger on this and spend the capital and make it a "real" business, then everything will be labeled, etc.

But this is just one guy with a passion, trying to help out other folks. What you have there was handled by me. I wrote the labels with barely legible scrawl.....(I'm a doctor), I poured the disgustingly smelly fish juices and other nasties. I packaged, printed, drove to the post office, etc.

And I did all that damn quick. 51 kits ordered and shipped so far and ALL OF THEM shipped on the exact day there were paid.

I may not have labels and Rastamen.....but I do have customer service. You'll get the best I can offer. I hold nothing back. I want you to succeed as much or more than you do!

RE: sensitive, skeptical patients. Once he tries it, you won't have a problem.

Wash it! Please tell me you're going to wash the buds.....

I have to add...The best smoke I've grown, has come from the kit :)

Your grow is stellar by the way bro :passitleft:
 
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Sweet grow..I'm subbed, but people for the love of god can we not quote pictures? It is enough to make me want to ignore the site when I'm looking through a journal enjoying the knowledge & pics when bam, the very next post(sometimes more) is a copy of the 53 pictures I just spent 10 minutes looking through...Just my two cents!
 
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Haha. Happy to have you along mate thanks! They're worth a second look anyway ;) lol. Ronnie's good people tho, u should check out his journal. If you've the time
 
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Haha. Happy to have you along mate thanks! They're worth a second look anyway ;) lol. Ronnie's good people tho, u should check out his journal. If you've the time

those were some amazing shots, definitely worth the second look. thanks for the kind words canna

:Namaste:
 
Re: Canna's Perpetual Motion-2 Tents Super Soil 5 Strains 2200W Perpetual Medical Gar

U know it doc. I'm strictly by the book with this one. My goal is a fair comparison with as few variables as possible. I suspect you'll be dead on in ur guess as I have the same expectations. This one will likely come down to a table of friends and a blind test. Beyond excited for this go. I have cooking soil down to a science

So where exactly is this table and are there any seats open? :)

good info! that will stick in my head too:thanks:

Where? Isn't your brain cell all full up? If you got a tip for me on how I can remember this tomorrow, please share! :rofl:



Sorry I haven't been around much lately, but I'm here lurking! Just too busy, and can barely even keep up these days. Working 60 hours at the day job, plus just finishing up a harvest (in curing phase), have a house guest, and another arrives tonight! I think I need to go smoke something! :p

Everything looks great canna. It will be exciting to watch the SS vs HB. I'm interested in Doc's kit too, but I'm so far away from being able to start experimenting! :biglaugh:
 
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yeah what ronnie said:)2x
 
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