I was wondering more about the humidity in the room the tent is in than the temperature when there's no tent, or with the tent closed.
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Back to my critical purple bud. The humidity is also not helping with the drying part. These buds have been drying since July 4th and they're still sticky. The stems don't feel like they're ready to snap and the buds are still damp. And while I don't see mushy brown leaves, I'm not sure if this isn't rot.
Hard to tell from those pics. Break the buds open and see if they're grey or moldy inside.
What's the relative humidity where you're drying them?
What's the relative humidity where you're drying them?
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Oops. The temp in the room is 83 and rh is 81.
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They're hanging in a small closet in the same room. I've had a fan on them.
If the ambient humidity in your house is 81% you will need a full-sized dehuey, not only to grow but to dry your harvests as well (if you don't have room to put all your buds in the fridge for low and slow drying).
I would get a large one and put it in the room with the tent, and close the windows and door to keep the outside moisture from getting in. Then you recirculate the air from the room into the tent and out again to be dehumidified.
A fan can't lower the humidity of something below the RH in the room, so unfortunately that won't help.
I would get a large one and put it in the room with the tent, and close the windows and door to keep the outside moisture from getting in. Then you recirculate the air from the room into the tent and out again to be dehumidified.
A fan can't lower the humidity of something below the RH in the room, so unfortunately that won't help.
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I just checked another room in my house and the RH is 68 which means the room with the tent is a lot more humid. I started defoliating and will continue in the am. I don't want my girls to miss their beauty sleep.
I also looked at the low and slow in the frig. Since my current flowering plants are small I'm going to try that. By the time I harvest the big plants our humidity will be back down. I just have to get there.
Do you think it makes sense to do this if they've been hanging for almost two weeks? My fridge can definitely handle that. I might put myself in there with them. Always Ty!
Not at this point. I would try to get them to 60% as fast as possible now. Can you put them in a cardboard box with the mini-dehuey?
Can you get better air circulation into that room?
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Ordered a large dehumidifier, but it won't arrive until end of month and of course the local stores are also on backorder. It's that time of year. In the meantime, I've moved the 3 chocs back outside where at least the air flow is better and they will continue in veg until RH is down or my dehumidifier arrives and works as expected. When I pull them in again to flip I'll probably have a difficult decision to make about the size. Maybe time to try my hand at super cropping. Should that begin now or later?
I put the mini dh in a cardboard box and a fan blowing over it. Hoping the RH will lower enough to put my drying bud before it rots.
Note to self, never try to dry bud or flower a plant in July in my area.
I put the mini dh in a cardboard box and a fan blowing over it. Hoping the RH will lower enough to put my drying bud before it rots.
Note to self, never try to dry bud or flower a plant in July in my area.
Supercropping would be fine now, but it does make your plants wider for when they go back into the tent. Unless you clear out the middle and supercrop inwards.
The Chocs should be in flower by the time the dehuey arrives, so perfect timing!
The Chocs should be in flower by the time the dehuey arrives, so perfect timing!
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Just a few updates.
My 35 pint dehumidifier arrived yesterday and the room my tent is in is already down to 50% rh.
My 3 chocs are still outside. This afternoon I attempted to pulled a few branches down and had a few accidents. File under be very careful when trying to bend thick branches. Oops. While making them shorter is a good thing they're now wider and that will be a problem.
Overall plants look healthy but leaves are showing nitrogen deficiency. Ran out of FF grow big while waiting for delayed delivery. I had to water today so I'm hesitant to water again tomorrow, but don't want to delay the nitrogen. Leaves slightly canoed near top. A few yellow inner leaves. Just in 3 days. I need a plan.
I'm thinking of leaving one plant outside and keep out until the days get too cold or the tent is freed up. If I'm only flipping two I'd have more room as they are wide. I'm trying to avoid more chopping. I'm curious to know if photosynthesis can happen where there are street lights and the possibility of neighbor lights.
My 35 pint dehumidifier arrived yesterday and the room my tent is in is already down to 50% rh.
My 3 chocs are still outside. This afternoon I attempted to pulled a few branches down and had a few accidents. File under be very careful when trying to bend thick branches. Oops. While making them shorter is a good thing they're now wider and that will be a problem.
Overall plants look healthy but leaves are showing nitrogen deficiency. Ran out of FF grow big while waiting for delayed delivery. I had to water today so I'm hesitant to water again tomorrow, but don't want to delay the nitrogen. Leaves slightly canoed near top. A few yellow inner leaves. Just in 3 days. I need a plan.
I'm thinking of leaving one plant outside and keep out until the days get too cold or the tent is freed up. If I'm only flipping two I'd have more room as they are wide. I'm trying to avoid more chopping. I'm curious to know if photosynthesis can happen where there are street lights and the possibility of neighbor lights.
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I watered again with Grow Big so that should address yellow leaves. The rest looks good, but I still have a size problem and I feel like my pruning yesterday did more harm than good, because now I have tall big branches on the outside and a well on the inside. After splitting two and having to top again, I'm nervous about making it worse.
What it looks like you have is outside plants now, given how big they are. If you are planning to flip them inside I'm sticking with my original suggestion to cut them down so they'll (however many that is) fit in the tent, wait two weeks for new growth, and flip them.
Growing is always a learning experience and rarely do they go exactly according to plan, especially the first few.
In terms of lights at night, they can certainly prevent a plant from flowering or cause it to hermie from the stress. If you can build some sort of tarp shelter to keep the lights off them at night it would be better while you wait.
Growing is always a learning experience and rarely do they go exactly according to plan, especially the first few.
In terms of lights at night, they can certainly prevent a plant from flowering or cause it to hermie from the stress. If you can build some sort of tarp shelter to keep the lights off them at night it would be better while you wait.
Wow. Those plants got big. I agree with Shed and keep them as outdoor plants they will give you an outstanding harvest. They are very nice looking are all set for the outdoor living.
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thank you Shed. Building a structure to go over them isn't an option right now, so I'm back to having to cut it down which is a bit heartbreaking but, yes, this is a learning process.
The plants have already been topped multiple times (once on purpose...) so what I have now is too much width. To cut them down to a manageable size, I'm not sure where to begin. I've tried to find videos so that I can minimize trauma it will surely cause.
Trauma to you or the plants? 
The plants will be fine especially since they're not in flower yet. Just cut each branch down to a manageable height making sure you leave enough nodes to sprout new branches afterwards.
The plants will be fine especially since they're not in flower yet. Just cut each branch down to a manageable height making sure you leave enough nodes to sprout new branches afterwards.
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Yes, the answer is both.Trauma to you or the plants?
The plants will be fine especially since they're not in flower yet. Just cut each branch down to a manageable height making sure you leave enough nodes to sprout new branches afterwards.
So cutting the cola branches that are getting too tall. Cut down to a height that will allow the little ones to fill out the canopy? Ty. Will do.
branch as in cut the whole to a low node leaving the canopy flat
If you want to leave a few of the tallest branches you can, but you will need to clear room in the middle of the plant to supercrop the leaders inward. Otherwise you're back where you started in terms of width.
There are many ways to get them smaller, but try to leave yourself with the strongest branches in the end and take off the weaker ones. If they were mine, I would keep my mains and crop them in, to a low enough point that you will still have headroom after flip.
In terms of leaving a plant outside, if you can put a light on it all night it will keep it out of flower until there's room in the tent. That way you don't need to worry about the neighbors lights.
There are many ways to get them smaller, but try to leave yourself with the strongest branches in the end and take off the weaker ones. If they were mine, I would keep my mains and crop them in, to a low enough point that you will still have headroom after flip.
In terms of leaving a plant outside, if you can put a light on it all night it will keep it out of flower until there's room in the tent. That way you don't need to worry about the neighbors lights.
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Got it. Ty
Light pollution wouldn't be a serious threat in my yard, but the plants are tall enough now that neighbors cutting the grass can see if they look. It's legal here but I'd feel a bit less paranoid about that by keeping it short.
I've got another month before daylight hours go below 14 and they are starting to show preflowers.
sitting up at a 45 degree angle?
There's nothing magical about the number of hours of daylight. As long as there are fewer minutes of daylight on Jun 22nd as there are on June 21st (summer solstice), the plants begin their march to flowering. It's a slower process than flipping to 12/12 but it's happening nonetheless. If you want your plants outside not to flower, put them in a bright spot at night. Even a 60 watt porch light directly overhead will keep them in veg.
I bend a bit steeper than that, and then I weight the branch to get it to 90º, usually by hanging a paper clip from the branch and attaching a binder clip to the bottom to add some weight.
