Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

[Lady Cannafan]

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I'm just gonna sneak right in here...

I've been reading quite a bit lately, but haven't had the time to post in the CCO threads so I just wanted to say hello to everyone around here. I'll be back with questions in a few days or so, need to absorb everything I've already read first.

Smokiebear

I believe I read recently that you made your first batch of Concentrated Oil? If I have that right, Congratulations!
Let us know if there is anything we can help with, we'll direct you to the correct area...or just keep you in chains right here.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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From a link PsyCro shared on his olive oil extraction thread the other day:

"Pharmacokinetic research reveals much about drugs that we cannot see: this scientific discipline often proves that, for example, different administration sites affect uptake rate, effectiveness and duration. Differing dosages of the same drug can have highly differing – and unusual – effects. These ideas have been represented anecdotally, especially in the Cannabis community, but through pharmacokinetics, scientists can actually prove these effects empirically. Now we know for certain that eating or drinking cannabinoid-infused products has a distinctly different effect on the body than smoking inhaled cannabinoids. Even so, vaporizing inhaled cannabinoids also presents a different action inside the body than smoking. With this information, the medical Cannabis community should be able to more effectively medicate its patients."

My takeaway is that we shouldn't expect that tacking would necessarily have the same uncomfortable results Cultivator had during his harvest experience. I speak purely from instinct and as one who tries to listen and learn. More experienced voices will surely chime in.

I have the same understanding/instinct. I would love to read the difference in the actual delivery system between the gums (tacking) and the mucous membranes' routes.
Thanks for your post, I have heard before that PsyCro is an awesomely informative member. I'm going to have to lurk his threads soon.

 

[circuit]

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Regarding getting mentally altered after trimming, I have heard this from several people, that they had quite a powerful head trip during and after exposure to a lot of fresh cut cannabis buds. The THC is not converted and you are not smoking it, so maybe the terpenes are having an effect, those strong smelling, volatile compounds that many oil makers have tried to preserve, mainly because of their possible medical application. There may be an allergic response happening in some people, the whole runny nose and watery eyes mess, when around live plants. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it, but if it is really a big problem, try growing different strains. Can you say what strain you think is responsible for your reaction? The brain is a complicated organ, maybe the "high" response is triggered by the aroma?

 

[Curly Beaver]

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FYI, I put most all of the ISO/Rubbing alcohol posts together in one post on my blog. If the subject comes up again, and it will, we can now refer someone to do some reading on what was discussed in the past without searching between conversations.
I'll add more to it as I go along, and do some better formatting etc.

Hopefully that will help in the future.

That will be a welcome addition Cannafan. I was gone for 3 days and it took me hours and hours to get caught up. When I left ISO hadn't even been brought up but when I got back (after pages and pages) the issue had already been resolved..... whew, this is a busy place for sure. Some kind of index would be nice cause I shy away from threads that are this long,,, I enjoy reading them once but can not make myself go back and re-read a second time looking for info that may or may not be there. Part of getting old maybe???? Same thing with grow journals, I can't make myself even get started on one that is a hundred pages long. (I may be retired but I don't have THAT much time
You folks do a pretty good job of keeping this on track, lots of good stuff here

I'm distilling more drinking water as we speak... even my better half was into this purchase! I imagine I'll be distilling water 3-4 times a week and oil maybe 4 times a year so I believe the water distiller was the right one for me, I'm good with it anyways but if you can afford both, by all means go for it.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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That will be a welcome addition Cannafan. I was gone for 3 days and it took me hours and hours to get caught up. When I left ISO hadn't even been brought up but when I got back (after pages and pages) the issue had already been resolved..... whew, this is a busy place for sure. Some kind of index would be nice cause I shy away from threads that are this long,,, I enjoy reading them once but can not make myself go back and re-read a second time looking for info that may or may not be there. Part of getting old maybe???? Same thing with grow journals, I can't make myself even get started on one that is a hundred pages long. (I may be retired but I don't have THAT much time
You folks do a pretty good job of keeping this on track, lots of good stuff here

I'm distilling more drinking water as we speak... even my better half was into this purchase! I imagine I'll be distilling water 3-4 times a week and oil maybe 4 times a year so I believe the water distiller was the right one for me, I'm good with it anyways but if you can afford both, by all means go for it.

I agree with you on finding specific information on hundred page+ grow journals. The search feature helps for something more specific, but if you're just trying to read up, the off topic stuff can be a real challenge. LOL

We are trying to keep the dedicated Oil threads as on topic as possible, which is why I came up with this thread idea. We can get more off topic here without plugging up the dedicated threads. And as you've discovered...we do that.

I'll be continuing to add topics to the blog as we hash them out here, just to make future reference easier for all.

 

[Dennise]

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i know this is slightly different but....


so when i brought my last harvest down i spent 3 days prwtty much locked in the grow room trimming on my own. Normally i wear gloves and a mask but this time for the first time in years never used either.

I noticed that i was wired and couldnt sleep and felt anxious as hell. it had to be down to the weed as there is no other explanation i can think of. Now i did not ingest any but thick layer of resin in my nose and the resin on my hands im guessing got in my system.

I really didnt like the way it made me feel and now its put me of taking the oil incase i get the same feeling. I know the oil is different but in essence it was still thc and cannabinoids getting in my system.

I have quite a serious health problem and im not taking any meds at all now. I wanted to see if my own oil could help, now im not sure. oil is very strong and i dont want a feeling that wont leave me for a long time.


thoughts.

I get the same feeling when I harvest... It takes me several hours before I wind down and sleep.... I do tack and as long as your not sloppy tacking you shouldn't feel any of the so called "euphoria" at all... When you tack using Motoco protocol on the gums it crosses the blood/brain barrier therefore not getting you high.... Are you currently tacking.. medicating in any way.......

 

[smokiebear]

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Smokiebear

I believe I read recently that you made your first batch of Concentrated Oil? If I have that right, Congratulations!
Let us know if there is anything we can help with, we'll direct you to the correct area...or just keep you in chains right here.

Thank you!

I did, I did. It was a trial and error test, so I came out with a very small amount, but it's been helping. I won't have the chance to make any again until my grow is complete, but I'll be here in the meantime!

I need more coffee because when I read chains, I could only wonder if there were whips around somewhere too

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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I am currently posting some information to my blog from American's for Safe Access site, in that post is something I felt might be useful to people who want to keep track of the effects of different oil strains and such. I'm going to work on trying to format this to a useable spreadsheet somehow.

Keeping a Cannabis Log

To establish an optimal treatment regime with cannabis, you will need to balance the effects of different strains, doses, and methods of ingestion. It may be helpful to record your therapeutic relationship with cannabis on an ongoing basis. One method is through keeping a cannabis-use log that captures your experience, including thoughts, feeling and behaviors. Periodically reviewing the log can help both you and your doctor make decisions about what works best.

To start, keep a detailed log, as described below, for at least one week. Once you've got a week's worth of information, complete the self-assessment worksheet that follows. This worksheet will help you better understand many things about yourself, including: your ailments and symptom patterns, your treatment behaviors, and the efficacy and side effects of the cannabis medicines you use.

In keeping a medication log, try to keep things standardized, and be as consistent as possible. Here are some logging tips on useful information to collect:

Date/Time: Record every time you consume cannabis with the current date and time of day.

Amount: The amount of cannabis used (gram estimate or other consistent measure).

Strain: The name, strain or variety of the cannabis strain or variety of cannabis medicine used. If you don't know the name, write a detailed description of the medicine.

Code: Strains are generally described as Indica, Sativa, or hybrid. You may want to code your entries: I=Indica, S=Sativa, S/I=Sativa-dominant Indica Cross, and I/S= Indica-dominant Sativa Cross.

Type is the form of cannabis consumed: dried bud flower (most common), concentrates, tincture/sprays, edibles/drinks or topical. You may want to use: F=flower, C=concentrate, T=tincture/spray, E=edible, TO=topical.

Cannabinoid Content: refers to the percent of THC, CBD and/or CBN. If you have this information available to you, write down percentages of each cannabinoid. If you're using edibles or similar, a description of potency and preparation is helpful.

Mode: Write down how you used your medication. Either inhale via S=smoke or V=vaporize, E=eat/digest, T=tincture or spray, TO=topical.

Therapeutic Effects: List any positive effects you experience (physical, mental, social, behavioral, etc).

Negative Side Effects: List your negative effects

Timing: How quickly did you experience the first therapeutic effects? When did you feel the peak of relief? When did it start to noticeably dissipate? How long until effects were gone?

What prompted your cannabis use? List the specific factors that told you it was time for medicine, as well as the general symptoms or conditions being treated (e.g. pain, nausea, anxiety, etc.

How did you feel (mindset)? Record your mood and feelings before and after you used cannabis.

Where were you (setting)? Were you at home, at a collective, in your office? Sitting, standing, lying down?

Who were you with? Were you by yourself, with a friend, a large group, among other cannabis consumers, etc?

What were you doing? Just before you used cannabis, what was going on? What were the activities or circumstances leading up to it?

 

[Dennise]

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I'm going to see if I can format that in a useable form.... I'll be back....

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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I'm going to see if I can format that in a useable form.... I'll be back....

You're a Gem!

Here's the full article. There is no date provided on the article that I can find.

Guide to using medical cannabis

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Thank you!

I did, I did. It was a trial and error test, so I came out with a very small amount, but it's been helping. I won't have the chance to make any again until my grow is complete, but I'll be here in the meantime!

I need more coffee because when I read chains, I could only wonder if there were whips around somewhere too

You made me giggle Smokie. Thanks! Ummmm....I think the whips are still in the barn. Gathering dust and spiders. No fear

 

[wildjim]

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Congratulations SweetSue!

WJ

 

[SweetSue]

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Thank you wildjim. Still taking it all in.

 

[Dennise]

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Canna I sent it to you on Skype cause I couldn't get the format to load on here and figured if you thought it would be of any help you would know how........

 

[Dave Groomer]

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I was trying to figure how to make oil and not lose the Terpenes. I found this on the boiling point of Terpenes and health benifits. It seems most boil at temps above 250. Only a couple are lower.

Components of Cannabis Terpenes Boiling Points and Effects - VaporizerTemp

 

[Cultivator]

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just to clarify. I grow alot qnd harvest alot. im a commercial grower with many years experience.

It doesnt matter what strain i harvest i always get a feeling of being wired thats why i started wearing gloves and a mask to harvest. I am not ingesting it. So i was wondering if tacking would have similar effects.

 

[smokiebear]

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just to clarify. I grow alot qnd harvest alot. im a commercial grower with many years experience.

It doesnt matter what strain i harvest i always get a feeling of being wired thats why i started wearing gloves and a mask to harvest. I am not ingesting it. So i was wondering if tacking would have similar effects.

I am sure someone else will help you out with this in a little more detail but the short answer is no - tacking does not give you euphoria.

Someone else should be able to fill in all the little details but it has to do with the blood/brain barrier.

 

[Dennise]

re: Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

That is correct... If you are not tacky tacking and don't swallow the oil you will not get the "euphoria".....

 

[Dave Groomer]

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Translation Sloppy tack = High

 

[smokiebear]

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Translation Sloppy tack = High

Sometimes I forget and swallow after... That's how you know you're still learning!