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Herby Paisley said:
I ment to add the reason I came up with this Idea was because i was watching a show where a guy put pipes under his grow soil area and built a greenhouse on top and heated it with a wood burning water boiler in northern Alaska with snow on the ground and -50c weather outside and inside a 20c, he was able to grow all kinds of vegetables and even fruit baring lime trees and lemon trees, So I figured if a man can do that off grid in the middle of nowhere, I should be able to do something similar and less costly here at home in my backyard.
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off subject but close;

homemade water heater

i tried to build pool water heater with a 40gallon drum sideways on 4 legs and a old wood stove fire door on front(wanted the air vents), then i ran copper pipe around barrel to heat water. It would create it's own flow of water but the problem i had was the fire barrel would get way to hot and create a vapour lock in the copper pipe thus disrupt the flow. I tried to moderate the heat in barrel but i could never keep it from getting vapour lock eventualy. there are a million youtube video on this now but i could never get it to work where i trusted it not to vapour lock.
My orginal heater was a solar heater i build on roof of garage. Build a box with plexiglass top and rolled black plastic piping inside, it worked the best and was about 80-90f but never ran it in winter, think it would freeze up.

So your back to hunting a old boiler down, natural gas would be the best. you need old house you can ripe out the stuff, who knows maybe you can bury the old radiators in the dirt as your pipes.
 
Herby Paisley said:
No don't use anything plastic against the plant it won't allow the moister to escape the leaves of the plant causing it to freeze inside the bag and then your plant if not caught in time. Cloth, paper or burlap, covering allows the moister to escape well keeping the plant sheltered and warmer inside. what damages your plant with frost is the frost sitting on the leaves and stems of your plant. By creating a barrier for the plant to keep that damp cold air moister away from touching them they should stay safe and undamaged, but the material has to be breathable to the plant to stay alive. :)
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What about if theyre in a raised garden? Should I cover the soil somehow? Like put a couple towels down or something? These are the 2 im worried about, theyre large and in charge lol. Can probably get a leaf bag over them still, how low itl go im not sure but im worried that they wont go low enough, and then all the soil is exposed. Its kind of a raised garden. Picture:

Also, never got to fish that giant yet! I follow a few accounts on social media that fish it religiously and the catches are just crazy. One of these days im sure.
Usually do a week every summer up in Temagami. Amazing up there.
 

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bcarpenter24 said:
What about if theyre in a raised garden? Should I cover the soil somehow? Like put a couple towels down or something? These are the 2 im worried about, theyre large and in charge lol. Can probably get a leaf bag over them still, how low itl go im not sure but im worried that they wont go low enough, and then all the soil is exposed. Its kind of a raised garden. Picture:

Also, never got to fish that giant yet! I follow a few accounts on social media that fish it religiously and the catches are just crazy. One of these days im sure.
Usually do a week every summer up in Temagami. Amazing up there.
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If you have access to hay or even wood mulch cover the top of your soil with that it will help keep warmth in the ground for the roots to stay warm.
 
bcarpenter24 said:
What about if theyre in a raised garden? Should I cover the soil somehow? Like put a couple towels down or something? These are the 2 im worried about, theyre large and in charge lol. Can probably get a leaf bag over them still, how low itl go im not sure but im worried that they wont go low enough, and then all the soil is exposed. Its kind of a raised garden. Picture:

Also, never got to fish that giant yet! I follow a few accounts on social media that fish it religiously and the catches are just crazy. One of these days im sure.
Usually do a week every summer up in Temagami. Amazing up there.
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Beautiful sun set that from tonight?
 
Herby Paisley said:
Beautiful sun set that from tonight?
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Nononoo
I wish I was near that beautiful scenery right about now!

Luckily it looks like its not going low enough overnight here for frost until the weekend, so I think il grab some mulch for the soil. I already have a bunch of leaf bags, im thinking if need be il cut 4, and tape them together to create 2 big bags. I think my bags are long enough, just not wide enough. Will do a dry run tomorrow and see what I can mustard up.
 
Mustang92 said:
off subject but close;

homemade water heater

i tried to build pool water heater with a 40gallon drum sideways on 4 legs and a old wood stove fire door on front(wanted the air vents), then i ran copper pipe around barrel to heat water. It would create it's own flow of water but the problem i had was the fire barrel would get way to hot and create a vapour lock in the copper pipe thus disrupt the flow. I tried to moderate the heat in barrel but i could never keep it from getting vapour lock eventualy. there are a million youtube video on this now but i could never get it to work where i trusted it not to vapour lock.
My orginal heater was a solar heater i build on roof of garage. Build a box with plexiglass top and rolled black plastic piping inside, it worked the best and was about 80-90f but never ran it in winter, think it would freeze up.

So your back to hunting a old boiler down, natural gas would be the best. you need old house you can ripe out the stuff, who knows maybe you can bury the old radiators in the dirt as your pipes.
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I wonder if i did that roof radiator system type and did a closed system with anti freeze running in the pipes with water, could that stay unfrozen threw our harsh cold Ontario winters? I thought if I went with soil I would make an above ground/floor insulated grow box with pipes running under the earth in that to grow with a green house or grow tent on top in the shed ... shit Mustang I think we did it , now to source everything at reasonable cost. lol
 
bcarpenter24 said:
Nononoo
I wish I was near that beautiful scenery right about now!

Luckily it looks like its not going low enough overnight here for frost until the weekend, so I think il grab some mulch for the soil. I already have a bunch of leaf bags, im thinking if need be il cut 4, and tape them together to create 2 big bags. I think my bags are long enough, just not wide enough. Will do a dry run tomorrow and see what I can mustard up.
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Another good one is if you can get your hands on a stove or refrigerator box those are huge and last a lot longer then the yard bags my buddy told me that when I told him I used the yard bags last Friday lol
 
Mustang92 said:
It would create it's own flow of water
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I wonder if that would have worked with a circulating pump attached?? Altho the price of copper pipe seems awfully high right now - $40 for a 12' piece of 3/4".
I think my furnace will have a lot of lost "air heat" but I will wait to see how this season goes - this whole thing is a total test run but depending on the results I may look into running a duct in and out of the shop to make use of that heated air. I just hate cutting holes in things just to realize it was not worth it.
Hey on the bright side - I noticed the very beginnings of amber trichs!!!! I am almost giddy!! :thumb: But after hauling in 3 loads of wood today - no jumping up and down!!!
 
supplemental heat sources to help heat,
I've read you can paint a plastic barrel black fill it 3/4 water seal it and leave in green house if you have space, the sun will warm the barrels in day and at night and they will heat the green house(thermal mass/heat sink) also place rocks around that can heat up from sun, you could also move your compost pile in green house to generate some heat if space. Double up the windows/glass to create like a thermal pane / double pane (same as house). if glass is to much moneyz you could use 'used' plexiglass to create same effect of a double pane. Insulate wall on north side/ shade side also help stop wind cooling walls in storm, sink the floor of green house , you won't get below frost line but mild winter the frost is lucky to hit 3 feet, i believe 6 feet in bad winter (guesses on my part).
 
Mustang92 said:
supplemental heat sources to help heat,
I've read you can paint a plastic barrel black fill it 3/4 water seal it and leave in green house if you have space, the sun will warm the barrels in day and at night and they will heat the green house(thermal mass/heat sink) also place rocks around that can heat up from sun, you could also move your compost pile in green house to generate some heat if space. Double up the windows/glass to create like a thermal pane / double pane (same as house). if glass is to much moneyz you could use 'used' plexiglass to create same effect of a double pane. Insulate wall on north side/ shade side also help stop wind cooling walls in storm, sink the floor of green house , you won't get below frost line but mild winter the frost is lucky to hit 3 feet, i believe 6 feet in bad winter (guesses on my part).
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Love the idea's mustang92, I may try some of those methods out when constructing my year round green house on the back of my wood shed, For when I do my potted soil grows and maybe even brave an actual in the ground grow in there...Like I said before I have always used grow bags and pots and totes to grow in outside never have I tried in the ground directly. Well except when I was a kid watching and helping my uncle and his hippy friends plant fields of Mexican sativa's lol first time in my life I ever seen pot plants the size of trees.. :)
 
Well went from battling the cold and damp to battling strong winds but at least its warming up, Nice to see the sun out today instead of over cast, My seedy Cloudy Lake strain got a lil more purple color but blooming nicely hope to have mature f2 seeds soon fingers crossed and toes! ...Hope all is well with everyone else's grows... :)
 
Just curious gang when you tend to your plants what do guys like to listen to?.... When trimming I like to listen to classical music like Mozart or Beethoven especially when defoliating lol... makes me kinda feel like the show Dexter with the scalpel cutting away haha.. When its feeding time I like to listen to Volbeat or Black Sabbath.... and finaly when just chillin with them its the Black keys volume cranked up of course ...Sooo hows about you folks? :)
 
music,, well, yes,, in my studio,, which is a tiny bit recording studio as well,,

i listen to

ckua.com

ckua is a public supported radio station from edmonton,, completely listener funded


a true canadian icon,, been around for over a hundred years, or three hundred,, not sure which.:volcano-smiley:

seriously tho,, the hosts/dj's play their own music, and each host is different,,

but the music,, mostly,, is so inspiring,,

every canadian should know about ckua

cheers
 
nivek said:
music,, well, yes,, in my studio,, which is a tiny bit recording studio as well,,

i listen to

ckua.com

ckua is a public supported radio station from edmonton,, completely listener funded


a true canadian icon,, been around for over a hundred years, or three hundred,, not sure which.:volcano-smiley:

seriously tho,, the hosts/dj's play their own music, and each host is different,,

but the music,, mostly,, is so inspiring,,

every canadian should know about ckua

cheers
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That sounds like public radio we have here called CMU public radio but very folky orientated, love it .. I'll have to check yours out thanks :)
 
DutchinAB said:
I’m a hillbilly at heart, country for me; George strait, brooks and Dunn, Alan Jackson, Justin Moore and Jason Aldean on the new sound side or some old school dr Dre, ice cube.
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You like me a mix of everything right ... depends on the mood and high lol
 
stones,, zepplin??

all of the above works for me
 
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