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I bet they'll make it through those holes without a problem. They got wide and bushy, look real nice. Like Crawdaddy said, lots of potential tops. It will be a sweet, sweet harvest once it's time.
Looking good as always CA!
Can't wait to see how those lovely sage n sours progress through flowering. Looks like the teas you have been making are working wonders those plants are a picture of health!
Can't wait to see how those lovely sage n sours progress through flowering. Looks like the teas you have been making are working wonders those plants are a picture of health!
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Thanks Craw
They responded like savages to an extra 150w of MH.. woke up this morning to see them all (w/ screens) pushing their tops up through the squares 
Just a mater of time before I feel they are filled up enough. I need to read some more info on lollipoping for a scrog. I need to know how much growth to take off before I flower, I don't want the bottom of the buds to somehow plump their way in the square and when it comes harvest time LOL... that would be a funny ass picture.My last two grows had started yellowing quick, way too quick. I am anticipating the teas I am going to be making to pack that decent N punch these girls with some extra P goodies for their liking..
I was thinking on the lines of keeping them nice and happy green, and when half way through flower hits cut off the nitrogen and start hitting them with carbs and phosphorus to get those buds plumping. Going to give that a god this round. Definitely going to be different though as I have not grown a tent full of dang sativas Thanks b!
I think they can, the bending down of top shutes has been pretty easy so far, but I am not crowding in the tops so-so yet. So those 1"x1" could get a little iffy here in another 2 weeks of veg. Time will tell Fingers crossed for those horizontal baseball bats I think I need to get a heavy duty fan for flowering as well, got to check that onto the list.I bet they'll make it through those holes without a problem. They got wide and bushy, look real nice. Like Crawdaddy said, lots of potential tops. It will be a sweet, sweet harvest once it's time.
I think you are right Munchiez
I just cant wait to see a bunch of scrogged buds pushing through the tops! Dang exciting 
Witht he smells of these veggings plants I am getting even more excited. I was getting some skunky cheesy smells from the sage n sours, the bushiest of the two is definitely going to be attempted to get cloned and saved. I love the smell and structure of the plant. I would definitely like to pass these genetics along to others who would enjoy this! Thanks for the kind words
Thanks much Mono
These sage n sours smell like sweet cheesy goodness, they are the smelliest still of all the girls when I open the tent that is all I smell. Going to be a good phenol the bushy one! The smaller one smells the same but a lot more sweet tinges. I am not really a fan of foliar feeding and am going to stop doing it. I seem to get a lot of burning on my leaves from possibly solution not drying up in time before lights on, or the neem oil I added in seeming to stick it to the leaves surface... or maybe I am supposed to spray my girls down with phd water after to wash off the foliar.. May have screwed that up a bit but they seem to still thriving and I have learned from my mistakes, CA215=no foliar frees. Thanks for the kind words brodda! So the 600w mh is doing justice for the girls, they are absolutely loving it.
Heat was up to 81f at a point last night which I was thinking was going to happen. So, with 2 hps I am now seeing the temps up at around 86 give or take a couple degrees. This could be an issue, but then again could get fixed it I have a badass fan for circulation, they wouldn't have to worry about the heat. And I have also read temps too high can stunt growth and produce smaller buds.... But then I think of outdoor and temps were in 100 degree range and the girls just loved it, so I don't really believe that heat can be an issue, maybe minor things here and there but we might have to test that out. Contemplating on 2 hids is still in the works.
I untied a lot of lst in the tent and tamed the girls to the tops of the screens, I was in an impatient mood this morning LOL. With the lollipoping I was able to pull the branches upward tieing them to the cage and stringing the tops beneath and above the screen. It looks a lot better and most growth is give or take 1-3"~ to the top with some already an inch above (but this we will keep pushing below and reverting auxins to those lower spots). Will do a couple pictures to show the changes here later today when the lights flick back on (just shut off).
Stay vigilant fellow gardeners
CA215Thank you all for stopping in and leaving some love! I really do appreciate the comments, reps, likes, input!
As a lot of us don't have people to show are grow to due to sketchy intentions of others, I
They are a picture of health CA. Your doing a grand job buddy. Once they are all scrogged it's gonna be wall to wall buds
. Giving them a good veg time combined with the amount of light is gonna give you monster buds.
Loving the hash dude.
. Giving them a good veg time combined with the amount of light is gonna give you monster buds. Loving the hash dude.
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They are a picture of health CA. Your doing a grand job buddy. Once they are all scrogged it's gonna be wall to wall buds
Loving the hash dude.
Thank you much dutchy
The hash is doing its job! The fullmelt bubble hash is probably on the top of my extraction list now, this stuff tastes like the smell of the bud, intensely. I have been doing a lot of reading and research into hash and it seems I have made some primo stuff Cant wait till next outdoor season.. I am dedicating an entire plant to bubble. I decided to untie some more of the lst instead of waiting for them to grow all the way to the screen, bringing the branches upwards and tying them to the top stringing the top of the branch along the scrog, seems to be working well and I think I may be able to flip to 12/12 here soon
I was just looking at the pictures trying to picture 2 months into flower in this tent.. Its going to get stuffed 
but nothing I am complaining about, should get interesting! Cant forget that the sweet cindys may be male even though I purchased them "feminized". So some room could be freed up if my plants show any balls.I watered my girls finally after giving them that minor 4 gal flush. I added a picture below, but I did not throw in any b52. (I am trying to stick to the less is more rule and saw that may have been a little overload on potash). I did however add 5-7mL of each of the micro life additives which are all endo and ecto beneficial bacteria with a lot of other goodies such as ancient humus, and all kinds of goodies from the earth. That photosynthesis stuff smells like damn sulphur to the max I almost couldn't take it holy hell. Plus a 1/2 tsp of mollass.
Another thing kinda freaked me out, never thought this would happen in the indoor grow. So I have been cleaning up dead spiders in the tent, last week I first noticed them, I was able to suck up 4 dead ones and one living with the vacuum, of course vaccum was used to pick up all the soil and stuff before I give it all a wipe down. So I figured that was that, thought they didn't have any food in the tent so the died....... WELL.. while watering the best looking sage n sour, I noticed some movement in the soil, and upon further examination it was one of those damn spiders trying to push its ass back into the soil to hide, he was looking at me like, wtf is this smelly ass sulphur water?! I figured they are going to be more of a good spider since I have noticed the gnat and white flies almost gone. I only saw one while watering, when a week ago there was 5-10 flying about. I think the spiders are taking care of my soil for me!! I was astounded when I saw this, and also creeped out. I hate spiders. Anyone have any input.. Do you think they could be a good thing in the soil? The only bad thing I was thinking was possibly when budding came out (if they are still in there) they would maybe think they could make webs on the buds. That's not going to slide. Going to hold off to kill those guys until I hear some input
sage n sour
sweet cindys
topped cindy
freedom haze, the smaller one is responding so well to the defol, this thing is beautiful.. but small statured
That's all for now you guys, not to interesting, but that will change here soon when that yellow blinding light is shining down.
CA
The lady's look great CA.Sorry man I know nothing about spider's in soil.I'm gonna hang around and learn tho.
Hey CA.
If heat is going to be a possible issue you could introduce a simple co2 set up. From what I have read plants will take temps up to 32 degrees C so 89 Fahrenheit with increased co2 levels, without slowing growth rates. Plus they will love the added co2 while flowering!
I think they can take more heat outside as it's not as concentrated as what it is under artificial light, not fact though. I sort of just made it up
If heat is going to be a possible issue you could introduce a simple co2 set up. From what I have read plants will take temps up to 32 degrees C so 89 Fahrenheit with increased co2 levels, without slowing growth rates. Plus they will love the added co2 while flowering!
I think they can take more heat outside as it's not as concentrated as what it is under artificial light, not fact though. I sort of just made it up
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The lady's look great CA.Sorry man I know nothing about spider's in soil.I'm gonna hang around and learn tho.
Thanks Jimmy! I got in there and looked again and they are no where to be found, I am thinking they have a little cavern under the soil.. and hoping they don't have egg sacks in there because if those hatch ahhh that will be fun..
Hey CA.
If heat is going to be a possible issue you could introduce a simple co2 set up. From what I have read plants will take temps up to 32 degrees C so 89 Fahrenheit with increased co2 levels, without slowing growth rates. Plus they will love the added co2 while flowering!
I think they can take more heat outside as it's not as concentrated as what it is under artificial light, not fact though. I sort of just made it up
I will look into making a nice little c02 gen
and that is along the lines of what I was thinking and was about to test it I would say the outside girls have a lot better environment with the immense amount of c02, light, and a natural breeze. My indoor at the moment is needing some extra goodies to replicate it. I think we will just make sure to start out with both ballasts at 75%, make sure we stay under 90. These damn hps put off mad heat! I am currently in the market for a high power (energy efficient) oscillating fan that will take the place of the two I have running at the moment just to make sure if temps are going to rise they will have some sort of breeze to chill em out. I am also kind of skeptical about mold and what not being pulled through open windows throughout the house from my extraction fan, don't know if that is possible but I am trying to think of anything that may and could cause me some headaches mid flower. I also really need to look into some 2'x4' storage bins for run off in the tent. I am not going to be able to pull out each girl for watering as it is already a tight squeeze and its only going to get more intense.
I am planning on taking clones here shorlty, maybe in the next day or two. I really don't have a good area for clones at my location, so I may be utilizing a small portion of a buddies house to clone some stuff out (his pad stays really warm). I am going to do some reading into when I should clone, best time to do it (before lights out, before lights on, etc.) and conditions they need to be kept. I am going to use skunkpilots way where he added a top soil (i'm using coco) over his rapid rooters and wet it down, thus creating some mad rH. I will then be leaving them alone for a good 5 days and hope we have some roots
my main concern is keeping this sage n sour alive, I would really enjoy running this girl outdoors next year as her structure is the best I have had in my possession. That's it for now, im going to go do some hunting down of research
I will update as soon as I do anything that needs to be noted. Stay safe and vigilant crew CAIamConfused1
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Now that is a professional lookin garden so clean and so damn green everywhere, not a single imperfection on any leaf. Nice work as usual man!, i wanna see some budlets pop up
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Now that is a professional lookin garden so clean and so damn green everywhere, not a single imperfection on any leaf. Nice work as usual man!, i wanna see some budlets pop up
Well thanks Confused it is even cleaner now also, pulled all the girls out for a watering and the tent got a nice hydrogen peroxide and water scrubbing! The girls are looking great and healthy, they still have some of the minor foliar burn from the neem and seaweed mix, but other than that they are growing like MAD! They have grown atleast an 1" since the last 24 hours with all their tops poking through the screens I have a couple questions for you scroggers!
I am planning on flowering here soon as you all know and I have read a couple different things and would enjoy some commentary on what you think would be a good choice. So, for a scrog you are attempting to keep low leveled plants growing instead of upwards at an angle under the screen during veg, attempting to fill all the squares with a top so it can form a single top cola from that said square. I have almost filled up all my squares which are 1"x1".. 1) I have read that when you flip to flower you want to keep bending your tops under the screen until about mid stretch, then stop to let those bud sites revert upwards and produce a cola.. or 2)flick to flower and let the tops grow through the squares and letting them stretch towards the light.
Number 1 or 2? Anything poping out at yall? I can tell that this is somewhat of a guessing game for me as I have not grown out these strains yet.. so bending those tops under the screen during the first week of flower would be ok, but anymore than that I can see some issues of maybe nugs growing in the screen..
Input appreciated. For now I am planning on tucking for the first week of flower, but this can change
I am doing some side jobs today, getting back into the wonderful world of ink, carbon paper, and time and precision,
I will attempt an update today, probably later in the evening once lights flick back on.
Going into the grow zone to tend to the tops
Stay safe and vigilant fellow growers!
CA
TaylorMade420
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subbed mukker. ladies look awesome
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I would have to go with Crawdaddy's assessment. Suck it and see my friend, and keep a close eye on the stretch
Hi CA,
Here is a bit of advice from a scrogger as requested.
You wanna go with No1.
Your scrog screen has got 81 holes, so 81 colas. Bend the main cola in a given direction then look for the shortest shoots, these will be for the middle of the screen. Look for the longest shoots and get those a couple of squares from the edge. You should be able to now train all the tops outwards for a week and then just let them grow up through the holes to form colas.
I train for longer as I do a short veg cycle and my plants have less tops so I train them under for 2 weeks getting a lot of buds at screen height. Your plants look super bushy and you Lst'd them beforehand so you will have more tops preformed than I get, and you can let them grow through earlier to form taller bigger buds.
As previously stated the sativa will stretch a bit more than the hybrids that I grow, so you will have to wing it a bit and guess when your happy with the screen. Scrogging is something that gets easier to judge each time and the first attempt is an experiment. There aint no given scrog method as many people prefer different styles, it's all about filling each hole with bud so that each bud gets a shot at the light, so just keep this in mind when your training and see what happens.
Sounds like you are a bit late for 12/12 as most people flip when the screen is 50% full, but that should just mean less training and taller, larger buds.
Good luck, I hope you have as much fun scrogging as I do and get the desired results.
Here is a bit of advice from a scrogger as requested.
You wanna go with No1.
Your scrog screen has got 81 holes, so 81 colas. Bend the main cola in a given direction then look for the shortest shoots, these will be for the middle of the screen. Look for the longest shoots and get those a couple of squares from the edge. You should be able to now train all the tops outwards for a week and then just let them grow up through the holes to form colas.
I train for longer as I do a short veg cycle and my plants have less tops so I train them under for 2 weeks getting a lot of buds at screen height. Your plants look super bushy and you Lst'd them beforehand so you will have more tops preformed than I get, and you can let them grow through earlier to form taller bigger buds.
As previously stated the sativa will stretch a bit more than the hybrids that I grow, so you will have to wing it a bit and guess when your happy with the screen. Scrogging is something that gets easier to judge each time and the first attempt is an experiment. There aint no given scrog method as many people prefer different styles, it's all about filling each hole with bud so that each bud gets a shot at the light, so just keep this in mind when your training and see what happens.
Sounds like you are a bit late for 12/12 as most people flip when the screen is 50% full, but that should just mean less training and taller, larger buds
.Good luck, I hope you have as much fun scrogging as I do and get the desired results
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I smell a pic up-date!
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Welcome TaylorMade! Flowering will begin shortly for your viewing pleasure
Okay that is along the lines of what I was anticipating, thanks for the quick reply Craw
I really need to flower soon then. As I am running out of room and if these girls are going to stretch like mad they are going to want some room... they are going to need some screen to stretch under and at the moment they are damn full... I am now anticipating a fat sea of colas!I would have to go with Crawdaddy's assessment. Suck it and see my friend, and keep a close eye on the stretch
Thanks for the reply Mono! I will definitely listen to you guys and go with that plan of attack.. I think that should work I am just hoping for the most horizontal growth I can get for now. The training I just did seemed to free some space up so I think it should fill it just right, some a little too much but nothing too drastic. Thinking about giving these girls a day of darkness also before flip. Have yet to try this but it seems people get great results with it.
Hi CA,
Here is a bit of advice from a scrogger as requested.
You wanna go with No1.
Your scrog screen has got 81 holes, so 81 colas. Bend the main cola in a given direction then look for the shortest shoots, these will be for the middle of the screen. Look for the longest shoots and get those a couple of squares from the edge. You should be able to now train all the tops outwards for a week and then just let them grow up through the holes to form colas.
I train for longer as I do a short veg cycle and my plants have less tops so I train them under for 2 weeks getting a lot of buds at screen height. Your plants look super bushy and you Lst'd them beforehand so you will have more tops preformed than I get, and you can let them grow through earlier to form taller bigger buds.
As previously stated the sativa will stretch a bit more than the hybrids that I grow, so you will have to wing it a bit and guess when your happy with the screen. Scrogging is something that gets easier to judge each time and the first attempt is an experiment. There aint no given scrog method as many people prefer different styles, it's all about filling each hole with bud so that each bud gets a shot at the light, so just keep this in mind when your training and see what happens.
Sounds like you are a bit late for 12/12 as most people flip when the screen is 50% full, but that should just mean less training and taller, larger buds
Good luck, I hope you have as much fun scrogging as I do and get the desired results
That's a good lump of helpful info, thanks much dutch
some reps for you brotha! I used your info and it seemed to spread them out well and it looks that stretch should help fill out the screens well, I am also tucking the fan leaves between each other downwards which has exposed possibly 2 nug per square due to node length. Hopefully this wont cause much issue and they just grow together into a nice double nug. Looking into making a pre flowering tea at the moment, 12/12 in t minus a few days
although I haven't broken and tops I can say 1" squares are a little tough but are possible but we will see what flower brings thanks again dutch!I smell a pic up-date!
Good one Jimmy
The girls were looking quite well after their training, was able to get some decent shots before the lights went off and decided to upload sooner than later pulled a couple leaves off some of the girls that were covering a couple site,s no more than two per plant not trying to stress them much anymore. Pulled out a new 600w hps for these girls, still not sure about the second hood but it is tempting as heck 
Some sages
Girl with the screen
Cindys
Otro cindy
Y uno mas
Hazes
That's all I got, and some overalls!
CA
Turning out to be quite the little project in there 
Gonna look amazing when they straighten themselves out in the stretch.
You must love looking inside the tent.
I do too.
Gonna look amazing when they straighten themselves out in the stretch.
You must love looking inside the tent.
I do too.
CA,man you are killin it.I I do a dark period before flower,never had any problem's with transition at all.I am more excited to see you flip then I was for myself.There gonna be sexy beast.
I I do a dark period before flower,never had any problem's with transition at all.I am more excited to see you flip then I was for myself.There gonna be sexy beast.they are all so beautiful healthy and bushy! I love how they are crawling through the screen now, how a proper scrog should take place.
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