Budz: Mars Hydro FC-E3000, 3x3, Do Si Dos SCROG Grow

[MarcoD1984]

I had bought 2 outdoor scrog kits Combined them to use inside and working on a base right now to hold it up

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

I had bought 2 outdoor scrog kits Combined them to use inside and working on a base right now to hold it up

that looks very usable. Nice work.

 

[Buds Buddy]

The 1st net is the scrog ideally so this one is the workhorse that thr threading happens in. The second net would be more of a stability guide for the uprising buds forming As for the height of the 2nd net , it will depend on the 1st one . Once the first level is decided on and ready to flip , the initial vertical stretch will show which buds will be in the canopy and need the support. Flipping was my time to allow the vertical growth to happen and I flipped once the scrog net was filled from stem to edge.

I guess my plan to make a frame for the 2nd net that will just slide into PVC fittings from the 1st net isn't going to work if it all depends on vertical growth. I was hoping there was an avg. median range so I could cut the legs of the 2nd net & have it ready to sit on top when needed. I guess I could make several size sets of legs for it & not glue them in so they can be changed. Going to buy the PVC fittings today for it.

 

[Buds Buddy]

If you use the pollen press to make small pucks while you have the squeeze on it you need to add a little heat to it to make it stick together, then its even hard to keep it from crumbling. Once you spoon it out of your bags you will need to let it dry for about 4 to 5 days, i use a shoe box for this with a lid so you don't have hair and floating particles stuck to it. The blondest hash that comes out of the bags is the best ( full melt ) usually in the 45 to the 90 micron,somtimes the 120 lot depends on the strain. Good smoke and a nice change.

OK, so once you spoon it out of the bag you let it dry 4-5 days before putting it in the pollen press ?
-OR- Does it go straight to the pollen press & then let the pucks dry 4-5 days ?
Would a heat gun on low work for heating the pollen press ?
I have a 5 bag set. 25 / 73 / 120 / 160 / 220. Is the 25 Micron the smallest screen & the 220 the largest ?
(I was thinking it was the opposite because more LPI -Lines Per Inch-) But when I see the pressing screen is 25 it makes me think I'm wrong & got it backwards.
Sorry if these are basic dumb questions. I like to be sure of myself so confirming things ahead of time to ensure I get it right.

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

OK, so once you spoon it out of the bag you let it dry 4-5 days before putting it in the pollen press ?
-OR- Does it go straight to the pollen press & then let the pucks dry 4-5 days ?
Would a heat gun on low work for heating the pollen press ?
I have a 5 bag set. 25 / 73 / 120 / 160 / 220. Is the 25 Micron the smallest screen & the 220 the largest ?
(I was thinking it was the opposite because more LPI -Lines Per Inch-) But when I see the pressing screen is 25 it makes me think I'm wrong & got it backwards.
Sorry if these are basic dumb questions. I like to be sure of myself so confirming things ahead of time to ensure I get it right.

25 is smallest and slowest to empty out too. this goes on bottom .For me, I then add the 73 and finally use the 220 for the trim and ice mix . This works for me and avoids too much plant matter getting into the final hash. The 25 and 73 are different grades of hash but I then spoon it onto the mini screen ( 25mu) that often comes with the kits. This is rhen folded over and I use a tea towel to wick the water away as I hand press it to remove the main excess water This leaves a damp lump of hash

that you then chop up with a flat edge like a credit card ect.. to achieve a fine layer of sandy hash. This can then be left out for 24/48 hrs to dry out fully

I don't press it after but keep it together and use it as is . saves me burning or crumbling it to use it.

 

[Buds Buddy]

25 is smallest and slowest to empty out too. this goes on bottom .For me, I then add the 73 and finally use the 220 for the trim and ice mix . This works for me and avoids too much plant matter getting into the final hash. The 25 and 73 are different grades of hash but I then spoon it onto the mini screen ( 25mu) that often comes with the kits. This is rhen folded over and I use a tea towel to wick the water away as I hand press it to remove the main excess water This leaves a damp lump of hash

that you then chop up with a flat edge like a credit card ect.. to achieve a fine layer of sandy hash. This can then be left out for 24/48 hrs to dry out fully

I don't press it after but keep it together and use it as is . saves me burning or crumbling it to use it.

I'm pretty sure I want to use the press. I don't smoke from pipes or bongs & putting some in a joint is OK; but not the greatest. When I think of smoking Hash I think of it going under a glass on a table like this. Then you slide the glass to the edge of the table once it fills with smoke & suck it all up. Unbelievable high !

 

[Buds Buddy]

Remember the Fake Hash in the 70's & 80's ? Durkee's Fine Rubbed Sage & Karo Syrup made in a microwave ? Looked, smelled & tasted just like Blonde Lebanese.
I can't help but wonder if a drop of Karo Syrup would hold the Trichs together. I may have to test a small bit to see what happens.
I can't believe some of the fake shit people sold. Blotter Acid -or- a picture on construction paper that someone ran under a sewing machine ?
Orange or Purple Micro-Dot -or- Spaghetti noodles painted orange or purple ?
Cocaine -or- LeRock sprayed with ether (starting fluid) ?

I'll bet a lot of you came across this at one time or another.

 

[Tkmk]

I'm pretty sure I want to use the press. I don't smoke from pipes or bongs & putting some in a joint is OK; but not the greatest. When I think of smoking Hash I think of it going under a glass on a table like this. Then you slide the glass to the edge of the table once it fills with smoke & suck it all up. Unbelievable high !

I have smoked that way in years lol. True ols school style. I think im going to do it tonight

 

[Mdlroad]

Remember the Fake Hash in the 70's & 80's ? Durkee's Fine Rubbed Sage & Karo Syrup made in a microwave ? Looked, smelled & tasted just like Blonde Lebanese.
I can't help but wonder if a drop of Karo Syrup would hold the Trichs together. I may have to test a small bit to see what happens.
I can't believe some of the fake shit people sold. Blotter Acid -or- a picture on construction paper that someone ran under a sewing machine ?
Orange or Purple Micro-Dot -or- Spaghetti noodles painted orange or purple ?
Cocaine -or- LeRock sprayed with ether (starting fluid) ?

I'll bet a lot of you came across this at one time or another.

Yup

 

[Nev]

I was pretty fortunate to have excellent connections back then and dealt a lot with those red robed Hare Krishna‘s that hung out at airports and bus terminals. They brought in world class oils and hash like this Nepalese. It was all imported back then. Not really much of any decent domestic. But you also had dry spells where nothing was available for a month at a time between the world grow seasons. I really miss that good imported hash of days gone by.

Nepalese hash circa 1977

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

I'm pretty sure I want to use the press. I don't smoke from pipes or bongs & putting some in a joint is OK; but not the greatest. When I think of smoking Hash I think of it going under a glass on a table like this. Then you slide the glass to the edge of the table once it fills with smoke & suck it all up. Unbelievable high !

old skool for sure. maybe 2 hot knives. lol

 

[Buds Buddy]

old skool for sure. maybe 2 hot knives. lol

We smoked Opium with Hot Knives.... lol. Was only able to get that twice, many years ago.

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

We smoked Opium with Hot Knives.... lol. Was only able to get that twice, many years ago.

probably a good thing.heehee
poppy fields indoors would be a hard graft. hahaha

 

[Jack420]

I’m subbed I’m running same light n dosi33 now

 

[Buds Buddy]

I’m subbed I’m running same light n dosi33 now

Hi Jack. I'm off to a slow start due to harvesting 5 plants & taking my pin hole filled tent down & putting up my new one.
Got the plants chopped & drying now. I'll be updating this journal in a day or two. Welcome to tag along & offer any advice you might have. I'm trying my hand at Nute Calculations this grow... so hopefully it goes well.

 

[Jack420]

Absolutely brother I’ll watch this one closely I’m in the same boat have buds hanging ready to trim !! And running ur own nutes I’m in!!

 

[Buds Buddy]

Hey all, squeezing in a quick update between all the things I'm trying to do to get ready for another journal. Been a busy week; but got all 5 plants harvested & my old 5 x 5 tent down so catching up a little.
Anyway, remember I said I thought I had gnat Larvae in my soil ? I'm pretty sure I was right. I mixed up 1 qt. of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide in 3 qt.'s of water = 1 gal. & poured that through the 3 gal pot. Haven't seen a thing since. Nothing on the sticky traps either. I'm pretty sure the peroxide water accelerated the root growth also. It made the soil real light and airy for a few days. The roots are already coming out the bottom of the pot. I went from a solo cup to a 3 gal. pot so that is some fast root growth. I may do this again when I up-pot to a 5 gal. to see what happens.... lol.
So far, I've topped this little lady 1 time between the 4th & 5th nodes. Waiting for the 8 branches to grow out some which will all be topped at their 3rd node, giving me 16 branches to fill the net. Following a video I watched where a guy yielded over a pound with 1 plant this way; so got to try it.
So far I'm just feeding her 1 gr. of MC per gal. with no additives. That will be changing soon as I know this MC is low on Silica. I bought a qt. of Alchemist Stout Mono Silicic Acid recommended by @InTheShed who I trust very much so I'll be adding that soon. I also bought a qt. of Nature's Nectar Nitrogen 5-0-0. Not that MC is low on it but it can be increased a little. I'm in the process of learning the nute calculations from @InTheShed & @MrSauga . If you haven't seen Sauga's plants on his current grow you should take a look. They don't get any more perfect then that. So I'm trying to learn his secret by learning how to optimize my nutrient schedule.
So here's where we are today. Seed planted 4-14 & popped it's head up on 4-18 so 23 days old today. Her branches are all starting to come out now.

So far I'm liking the FC-E3000. Seems to be working well considering I only have it on 70% right now. The plant will be put on the floor this week, light lowered a little & turned up to 80% which I'll increase little by little to 90%.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Weird ! Pics posted twice.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Hey there. Been really busy getting everything done around here. I should be on this journal a lot more in the next couple of days as I'm just about caught up.
I did make my SCROG Net's. Haven't made Legs for it yet as I'm not sure how long to make them. Also the small risers between the 1st & 2nd net are not glued in. I just used them pieces to line things up. Not really sure how long to make the risers either. Here's a couple pics of the net.

I also got a New Mars Hydro 5 x 5 tent because the LA Garden tent I bought 6 months ago looked like stars in the night sky when the lights came on. Had more holes in it then a junkie's arm. WARNING : LA GARDEN Tents are junk !
So took apart the old tent & just about have the Mars Tent done. Add the Light, Plants & Water & it's ready to roll.
Here's a few pics.

I've got 6 - 1 gal. Pots ready for this tent. Already, did the Peroxide & Water mix wash on the soil in case of gnat larvae. Today I'll pour .5 gal. of MC @ 1 gr. per gal. through it. Sunday I'll plant some seeds.

 

[Buds Buddy]

On top of all that I harvested 5 plants ( 3- Peyote Wi Fi & 2 - Cherry on Top). Got a couple pounds to mess with for Hash & Butter.... lol. Should be a fun learning experience.

Just have to finish up the tent / Repack my grow equipment that I got all over the place & get it organized so I can find things / Make Hash & Butter or Oil for Brownies. Should be done in a day or 2.

Then we can get on with this journal. I will most likely be needing some assistance along the way. I've never just bent a plant over to LST so that kind of worries me. Would hate to snap the main stalk. I've always quad-lined; but that doesn't seem to be the best option for a SCROG grow.
To be honest I thought you put the plant in the center of the net & tied your quad-line branches to the net in different directions. So this is way different then I originally thought.

Be Back soon to get this thing going. Till then, "Party Like a Rock Star !"