Budz: Mars Hydro FC-E3000, 3x3, Do Si Dos SCROG Grow

[Bill284]

So this morning I up-potted the D0-Si-Dos SCROG Girl. She's now in a 10 gal. (Final Pot). I think she's about ready for the net. Was planning to put it in this weekend. Just need to know.... "How high above the canopy the net should be ?"
Anybody ???
Here's some pics of her.

The compressor has a capacitor start which bumps the draw.
Your breaker has a delay on it that should except the draw for a few seconds to let it start.
If its causing a default break its the breaker.
Did you put an amp meter on it to check draw when running?
Bill

 

[Buds Buddy]

The compressor has a capacitor start which bumps the draw.
Your breaker has a delay on it that should except the draw for a few seconds to let it start.
If its causing a default break its the breaker.
Did you put an amp meter on it to check draw when running?
Bill

No, didn't check it. The window AC used a 20 Amp breaker & it's even smaller & takes less power. It's been working perfect so far. I think it will be fine as the Electric Sub Panel itself is on a 50 Amp Breaker & this is the only thing running on that Panel. It goes straight to the Pedestal in the back yard. Doesn't even come to the house directly.

 

[Tokin Roll]

Hi Tok ! I was told you know about how to SCROG. It's my 1st time. I think my plant is ready for the net... but not real sure. I also don't know how high above the canopy the net should be. Could I please get you to take a quick look at my journal and advise me on these things ? It would sure help & I could quit questioning my every move... lol. Thank You ! Here's the link.

You are on the right track by pulling those branches down, you may not have to bend the branches.

When you place the net use the height of the center stem to place the net.

The one I did yesterday the net was place at 32 inches, only because I do hydro. One of the most important things about placing the net, is will you have the height too work underneath the canopy. How much room underneath, will you have after you place the net?

I notice some grower on here do more a a sog then using scrog. Scrog is all about manipulation growth sideways.
When I say that many growers just let there plant grow straight up. With a scrog net you teach it to grow sideways.

I just post my current scrog if you want to take a look and ask questions.

Hope this helps,

Tok..

 

[Buds Buddy]

Hi Tok ! I was told you know about how to SCROG. It's my 1st time. I think my plant is ready for the net... but not real sure. I also don't know how high above the canopy the net should be. Could I please get you to take a quick look at my journal and advise me on these things ? It would sure help & I could quit questioning my every move... lol. Thank You ! Here's the link.

You are on the right track by pulling those branches down, you may not have to bend the branches.

When you place the net use the height of the center stem to place the net.

The one I did yesterday the net was place at 32 inches, only because I do hydro. One of the most important things about placing the net, is will you have the height too work underneath the canopy. How much room underneath, will you have after you place the net?

I notice some grower on here do more a a sog then using scrog. Scrog is all about manipulation growth sideways.
When I say that many growers just let there plant grow straight up. With a scrog net you teach it to grow sideways.

I just post my current scrog if you want to take a look and ask questions.

Hope this helps,

Tok..

Yes, the info does help. I read the 1st 5 pages of your journal this morning. I had seen you were placing the net 9" - 12" above the canopy. Right now I have all the branches pinned down; so when I remove the pins they will go upward some before going sideways. I'll make a few different leg lengths since I have extra PVC laying around & see what looks good without going to high above the canopy. Maybe just a couple inches ?

 

[Tokin Roll]

Try to keep the branches growing side ways. If there are any growing straight up they will probably need to be been over for the net.

Once you place her under the net, try to keep the branches below the net and weave the ends above the net until they are strong enough to move under the net to the next section of the net.

Don't worry about the middle of the plant after you place the net, it will fill in by itself.

Your lady may be a little bit challenging do to her height, but I believe you will still be able to do it.

I'll stop more frequently to see how you are coming along.

Tok..

 

[Buds Buddy]

Just a couple quick pics. I up-potted the last of the 1 gal to 3 gal. Not liking how a few of the plants look. I think they need more Calcium. @MrSauga , your opinion please.

Made my SCROG Net & put it in the tent this morning. @Tokin Roll , How's the height look to you ?

All I got for the moment. Time for work soon.

 

[Tokin Roll]

She looks great, a little low but great anyways.

My first scrog like yours was set on the low side where I had too us3 a transmission funnel for feed and water, her she was so thick.

That's when I realized scrogging was for me, better yield using all available grow space.

It also eliminate any height issues.

Just check them everyday to see if you manipulate the branches across the bottom of the net to fill her in.

Also, now that you placed your net, she does need to be tied down any longer.

Hope this helps,

Tok..

Forgot, how much cal-mag are you using in your feed solution?

 

[MrSauga]

I think they need more Calcium. @MrSauga , your opinion please.

A couple of questions for you before I go and give my opinion.

Why do you think there's a calcium issue?
How much are they being fed, and how long have they been given that amount?

The plants look great Buds. The one in the lower right looks a little light on N, but before I say feed more, I'd like to know how much she's getting.

 

[Buds Buddy]

I'm using your 3.5 gr. calculation on all 9 of these plants. The 4 smaller ones up front are a week younger then the other 5. They've only received 2 feedings at this amount so far. The reason I thought Calcium is because green veins & yellowish leaves & not just yellow leaves that are drying out from N being too low. I thought the Chlorosis looking leaves meant low on Ca.

 

[MrSauga]

I'm using your 3.5 gr. calculation on all 9 of these plants. The 4 smaller ones up front are a week younger then the other 5. They've only received 2 feedings at this amount so far.

So the amount is fine. The older ones can go to 4g if you want, but 3.5g should be fine for all, for now. How often are they being watered? I see some of the plants show watering around the stem, or moist around the stem. Make sure you get those girls plenty wet, and although a wet dry cycle is good, don't let them get too dry. Maybe reduce the frequency between days for watering by one.

The reason I thought Calcium is because green veins & yellowish leaves & not just yellow leaves that are drying out from N being too low. I thought the Chlorosis looking leaves meant low on Ca.

Well most Ca issues start from the top and work down. More often than not you will see speckling on the leaves first. Interveinal chlorosis is when the center vein is yellow compared to the leaf. What I see is a difference in color of green, so to me your plants are fine, albeit a little hungry. Increase the watering and see how they respond.

 

[Tokin Roll]

@Buds Buddy & @MrSauga I apologies I made an assumption.

I should not of ask a question.

 

[MrSauga]

@Buds Buddy & @MrSauga I apologies I made an assumption.

I should not of ask a question.

No apologies needed Tok. You have done nothing wrong. It's always good to have advice from as many people as possible. It's up to the growers to decide what information best fits their situation.

 

[Buds Buddy]

@Buds Buddy & @MrSauga I apologies I made an assumption.

I should not of ask a question.

Hey, no big deal. I'm trying this nute calculation stuff Mr S does with his grows. He's guiding me through it of course.
I'm using Mega Crop; but adding Nitrogen, Silica & CalMag. It's really just a MC equivalent, because at 3 gr. of MC only 2 gr. might be MC & the rest the other ingredients are added to make it equal to the 3 gr. MC. I'm more or less making up for things that MC could use a little more of. Another learning experience for me.

 

[Buds Buddy]

So the amount is fine. The older ones can go to 4g if you want, but 3.5g should be fine for all, for now. How often are they being watered? I see some of the plants show watering around the stem, or moist around the stem. Make sure you get those girls plenty wet, and although a wet dry cycle is good, don't let them get too dry. Maybe reduce the frequency between days for watering by one.

Well most Ca issues start from the top and work down. More often than not you will see speckling on the leaves first. Interveinal chlorosis is when the center vein is yellow compared to the leaf. What I see is a difference in color of green, so to me your plants are fine, albeit a little hungry. Increase the watering and see how they respond.

So far only feeding about every 3 days. Most the plants are still perky at 3 days. Only the SFV Kush starts to droop every time. So I've been using her as my watering clock to a point.
I'm kind of wondering if the metal BBQ Skewers I use to hold branches down could effect anything in the soil or nute wise ? 1st time I tried them & they work so well I hope I'm able to keep using them. So much cleaner then Green Rubber Ties all over the place & in the way of feeding.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Has anyone used Plasti-Dip ? I'm thinking of covering these BBQ Skewers with it. Just don't know if it stays on well or peels off too easy.

 

[Bill284]

Has anyone used Plasti-Dip ? I'm thinking of covering these BBQ Skewers with it. Just don't know if it stays on well or peels off too easy.

Hello @Buds Buddy hope you are well today.
If its the stuff I'm thinking of it was great.
I used to use it on tools.
Put a new grip on pliers etc sort of thing. Dip and dry worked great.
Bright yellow was only color at the time.
Stayed on great.
Skewers I can't guarantee but I can’t see them getting abuse like tools did.
Stay safe buddy.
Bill

 

[Buds Buddy]

Hello @Buds Buddy hope you are well today.
If its the stuff I'm thinking of it was great.
I used to use it on tools.
Put a new grip on pliers etc sort of thing. Dip and dry worked great.
Bright yellow was only color at the time.
Stayed on great.
Skewers I can't guarantee but I can’t see them getting abuse like tools did.
Stay safe buddy.
Bill

I was thinking about rubber coating them because I don't know if the metal rods sticking in the soil causes any kind of reaction to the soil, nutes or pH. First time I've used anything metal to tie down branches & things seem to be a bit off.
I trust in Mr S calculations; so I'm wondering if this could be an issue.
Yes, it's the stuff for Tool Handles.

 

[MrSauga]

I was thinking about rubber coating them because I don't know if the metal rods sticking in the soil causes any kind of reaction to the soil, nutes or pH. First time I've used anything metal to tie down branches & things seem to be a bit off.
I trust in Mr S calculations; so I'm wondering if this could be an issue.
Yes, it's the stuff for Tool Handles.

No, there is no harm in using metal stakes Buds. I would start with the simplest and just increase the feeding cycle. Feed a little more frequently. When you let them dry out they are basically starving since they can't extract anymore nutrients from the soil.

 

[Buds Buddy]

No, there is no harm in using metal stakes Buds. I would start with the simplest and just increase the feeding cycle. Feed a little more frequently. When you let them dry out they are basically starving since they can't extract anymore nutrients from the soil.

Will do !

 

[Buds Buddy]

Hey All, been sitting around bored all day so I took a few pics to post for the hell of it. I went and up my nutes to 4 gr. per gal. on the 9 plants in 3 gal. pots. New growth seems to be greener on most plants, but still a couple not looking too good yet. Maybe after a few feedings.

It's just 2 plants that still look this way.