I am not sure what you mean by hydrogen water. I am assuming you are talking about H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide). If not, now that is something I haven't tried. Could you give me a little bit more so I can research it? Thank you.
Bud Washing
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I am not sure what you mean by hydrogen water. I am assuming you are talking about H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide). If not, now that is something I haven't tried. Could you give me a little bit more so I can research it? Thank you.
Peeece
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Can you post a picture? Always looking to learn as much as possible! Thanks! ..
One easy cure for PM/ Mold .... spray the plants while in VEG along with your normal IPM, add in some Horsetail Fern Tea. Can spray it on separately. Eagle 20 that shit isn't healthy for you.
The Horsetail Fern Tea is an organic treatment for PM/Mold and has been around for at least 125 years likely a lot longer. It's part of the Biodynamic agriculture which is a few steps above organic AG.
Horsetail Fern Tea recipe - handful of Horsetail ferns into a quart mason jar... hot boiling filtered water. Let cool and put in fridge. Add a 1/4 cup to a gallon of filtered water and spray all the VEG plants.. can do that weekly all the way to chop..has no taste ... I usually stop using it after the flowers are showing...
The idea is that the horsetail fern tea will kill all the PM/Mold spores that get into and on the plants .... the spores once the flowers start to grow, have a nice dark damp place to take hold and thats how it works. I've always had PM on some strains every summer. We live in a climate that is very hostile in the summer time... 100F & 90%RH like its been for the last 10 days... AC helps a little for indoors. IF you're outdoors this will work as well. This deal was in use before electricity so it's specifically for outdoors but works inside as well.
Look up "Biodynmic farming AND #508" - #508 is the horsetail fern tea paradigm and how it came about and how to use and why it's used. Likely you can find it growing local or can purchase it already dried. This doesn't need to be washed off either... odorless, tasteless and good for you.
My point .... I'm trying to help... sulfur and Eagle 20... we can find organic substitutes that are much healthier for us. Petty much any chemical on a shelf in a hydro store has at least 1 usually several organic substitutes specially the chems that kill shit.
Humans have been growing plants for survival for 10s of thousands of years. Long before chemical companies existed but still had all the same issues we have today in agriculture.
Bob, I very much appreciate your input. I have to admit, I have never heard of this treatment. I will give it a shot. As far as the use of Eagle 20, I am pretty much with you on that. However, by the time I would use it, I am up against the wall and my plan would be to make clones--->treat established small plants--->make clones from these--->establish plants from these for a growout. I have tried everything but this is one got by me. Thanks again.
I didn't know about it either ... kept getting PM and mold this time of year and I knew there was an organic cure. The folks that grow organic grapes for top shelf wine know of this... for some reason they don't spread the good word. It's a cure for Blossom End Rot for tomatoes and grapes among other plants... and for us, PM/Mold.
I haven't had any mold at all since I started this treatment, and I get in there with a microscope looking for that shit. We already have PM on our outdoor plants so the spores are everywhere. I think treating the spore BEFORE they are the problem is a better way to handle this issue. Anyone that grows more than 1 or 2 rounds of cannabis will have this issue, unless they live in a desert.
My opinion FWIW:
Mold and PM is one of mother natures way of culling the unworthy... genetics at play. Grow plants that come from the hot humid regions and these challenges will be less of a problem. Then there's that strain we just have to keep.. the keepers! arrrr the keepers. Bane of my existence... keeps me young tho. <--- see what I did there!!??
First off, I did not come up with the idea of washing buds as part of harvest. I'm not sure where the idea originated, but I learned of it via Curso and DocBud.
I've read with interest as several members have tried this technique. The idea already appealed to me on a logical level, but it was the endorsements of other members that really sold me. Granted, my sample size is only ~6 growers, but the responses I've read have been pretty unanimous. Every comment I've read has been something along the lines of, 'now I'm spoiled and don't want to smoke unwashed buds anymore'. That kind of rhetoric caught my attention!
I can't yet say if I will have that same reaction, as my first attempt is still hanging to dry. I'm creating this thread as a place to discuss the techniques and/or principles involved with this practice. The what, why, and how if you will.
First, What are we talking about?
It's pretty simple. We're washing the plant during the harvest and curing phase. I honestly can't think of anything else to say about 'The What' without getting into the why and how, so let's get to it.
Why wash your buds?
Just like you wash your vegetables before eating them, it's probably a good idea to wash Cannabis before consuming it as well. How big an impact it makes will depend on the environment the buds were grown in. Was it outdoors or indoors? Was the indoor garden sealed or ventilated? Was any sprayed on the plant, ie food or pest control?
My flowering room is sealed, and I don't spray anything my plants. I certainly understand why it's important to some of the growers here that spray their plants weekly. My wash water actually didn't get too dirty. Yes, it certainly appeared to have cleaned something off. Even in my sealed room there will be dust and dirt on the plants.
How do you do it?
My technique was based off instructions from Curso.
I use 3 5g buckets. The first bucket has room temp, ie not cold, water with the lemon juice and baking soda. The second bucket has the hottest water I can get from the faucet. The last bucket is the coldest water I can get.
I do a pre-trim on each branch to remove any leaves without crystals. Then I dunk each branch several times and swirl them around a bit. When I dunked the branches, I did it fast enough to get the water sloshing around real good. I imagined I'm trying to get the water to get into all the nooks and crannies with some force to help clean out the dirt. I do each bucket for 10-30 seconds including a few second to let them water drain off before moving them to the next bucket.
After the last rinse, I hang them on a string above the bucket so it can drip back into the bucket. As I wash more buds, I slide the others to the side to make room so the freshest is always dripping over the bucket.
I let them dry about 24 hours before trimming. If I tried to manicure sooner than that, they felt too wet.
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So that's all I have to get things rolling. I really hope others will join in the discussion and share their experiences.
I have a question for anyone that knows. What is the reasoning behind the lemon juice and baking soda?
Time to read as in a week first attempt at bud washing really nervous here folks not going to lie . Don't want to mess this up. Bite snails rips hair out of head .smokes blunt okay relax king.
Stress no good for no one..
First off, I did not come up with the idea of washing buds as part of harvest. I'm not sure where the idea originated, but I learned of it via Curso and DocBud.
I've read with interest as several members have tried this technique. The idea already appealed to me on a logical level, but it was the endorsements of other members that really sold me. Granted, my sample size is only ~6 growers, but the responses I've read have been pretty unanimous. Every comment I've read has been something along the lines of, 'now I'm spoiled and don't want to smoke unwashed buds anymore'. That kind of rhetoric caught my attention!
I can't yet say if I will have that same reaction, as my first attempt is still hanging to dry. I'm creating this thread as a place to discuss the techniques and/or principles involved with this practice. The what, why, and how if you will.
First, What are we talking about?
It's pretty simple. We're washing the plant during the harvest and curing phase. I honestly can't think of anything else to say about 'The What' without getting into the why and how, so let's get to it.
Why wash your buds?
Just like you wash your vegetables before eating them, it's probably a good idea to wash Cannabis before consuming it as well. How big an impact it makes will depend on the environment the buds were grown in. Was it outdoors or indoors? Was the indoor garden sealed or ventilated? Was any sprayed on the plant, ie food or pest control?
My flowering room is sealed, and I don't spray anything my plants. I certainly understand why it's important to some of the growers here that spray their plants weekly. My wash water actually didn't get too dirty. Yes, it certainly appeared to have cleaned something off. Even in my sealed room there will be dust and dirt on the plants.
How do you do it?
My technique was based off instructions from Curso.
I use 3 5g buckets. The first bucket has room temp, ie not cold, water with the lemon juice and baking soda. The second bucket has the hottest water I can get from the faucet. The last bucket is the coldest water I can get.
I do a pre-trim on each branch to remove any leaves without crystals. Then I dunk each branch several times and swirl them around a bit. When I dunked the branches, I did it fast enough to get the water sloshing around real good. I imagined I'm trying to get the water to get into all the nooks and crannies with some force to help clean out the dirt. I do each bucket for 10-30 seconds including a few second to let them water drain off before moving them to the next bucket.
After the last rinse, I hang them on a string above the bucket so it can drip back into the bucket. As I wash more buds, I slide the others to the side to make room so the freshest is always dripping over the bucket.
I let them dry about 24 hours before trimming. If I tried to manicure sooner than that, they felt too wet.
***********************************************************************************
So that's all I have to get things rolling. I really hope others will join in the discussion and share their experiences.
I have a question for anyone that knows. What is the reasoning behind the lemon juice and baking soda?
Thanks for sharing this thread sir!
Really not too much to worry about.
Yesterday, I harvested a plant (Ministry of Cannabis Carnival)
Pulled off the big fan leaves while she was still a plant
Cut her into convenient size pieces, washed, and hung her to dry in about 25 minutes.
I personally use lukewarm water with baking soda and lime juice for wash, and cool tap water to rinse.
Because I have a string to hang the dripping buds set up by my sink, dedicated buckets, and have done this for a couple of years, The whole process takes about 25 minutes (from decision to harvest to beginning to drip dry.) It would go quicker if I didn't stop to take plant photos
After an hour or more, I do a wet trim and hang dry for several days.
Your experience may vary. The main issue for me is having some place ready to drip dry after washing.
Really not too much to worry about.
Yesterday, I harvested a plant (Ministry of Cannabis Carnival)
Pulled off the big fan leaves while she was still a plant
Cut her into convenient size pieces, washed, and hung her to dry in about 25 minutes.
I personally use lukewarm water with baking soda and lime juice for wash, and cool tap water to rinse.
Because I have a string to hang the dripping buds set up by my sink, dedicated buckets, and have done this for a couple of years, The whole process takes about 25 minutes (from decision to harvest to beginning to drip dry.) It would go quicker if I didn't stop to take plant photos
After an hour or more, I do a wet trim and hang dry for several days.
Your experience may vary. The main issue for me is having some place ready to drip dry after washing.
Look like some sexy nuggets on that sir.
I've washed my buds before on multiple occasions and come to the same conclusion about it working really well. I'm not sure about the sulfur removal from a sulfur burner though. Also, after reading the how to do it post in this thread I noticed you're advocating hot water. Personally I think that hot or cold water is not the answer. Using either could damage trichomes, in my opinion. Coldwater is actually used to knock off trichomes when you make bubble hash. The hot water I would think would rupture some of the heads and evaporate off terpenoids. But I must admit, I was impressed by the macro images of washed buds using this protocol. I have always used room temperature water and 10% hydrogen peroxide for one bucket only. Never bothered with a rinse bucket. Upon inspection, the buds looked great. I'm not worried about the peroxide because they're will be no residue once the buds dry. Now if I use lemon juice and baking soda then I would use a rinse bucket. I've never tried lemon juice and baking soda but I think I'll give a shot next harvest.
Washed my early miss auto thanks guys
ForbiddenX711
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Washed my early miss auto thanks guys
Nice Manicuring job! curious how the trichr looked close up?
I'll grab a pic for ya in a bit
walleye
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I must admit I have not researched these threads much but am about to chop and wonder about a post regarding using a mild h2o2 rather than lemon juice and baking soda. The post stated h2o2/ ro rinses would cleanse better and leave no residue. I used both methods once when dealing with late flower PM, and use only lemon-soda/RO rinses since. No bug or mold issues this chop. Question also posted on Docs' Q&A. Kinda made sense no residue and would bubble debris off from within buds. Has this been hashed out ?!
Not sure man but lemon juice ?
I am at the stage of... I guess h202 might be considered 'natural', 'clean' and 'healthy' , but baking soda and lemon juice are already natural, clean, and healthy.
Lemon juice and baking soda work. It's easy. - so if It ain't broke don't fix it.
ForbiddenX711
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I have gone through three straight chops with the 4 bucket method 1-h2o2 , 2-BS/Lemon hotwater, 3-RO 4-RO. I don't smoke but the family members who do say its clean and smooth. It seems to help take some of the stank off the dank
You will be amazed of what comes off when washing and it isn't the good stuff especially if you grow outdoors.