Bluter's Happy Home For Hilarious Hempsters

[MrSauga]

thanks @Mr. Sauga

if i can i'll just order and pay for one. was hoping i could get it through @NextLight to support them.

Sounds like a good plan. Contact the guy that I'll send you the info on and he may just send it for free. Tell him you won it through 420 mag and are just getting it set up.

 

[InTheShed]

Great light and thanks for checking under the hood and voiding the warranty...so we don't have to.

 

[420]

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[013]

Hi Bluter,

Hope you have room for one more? I’m looking for a beanbag near the back. Never would have thought about lift the pot on hempy. At first I was perplexed they don’t tip over from top heavy but gravity won‘t be fooled huh. I’m gonna see what else I can dig up, less yakking - more reading.

Thanks for your guidance here!

 

[bluter]

Great light and thanks for checking under the hood and voiding the warranty...so we don't have to.

ssssshhhh ! ....

Hi Bluter,

Hope you have room for one more? I’m looking for a beanbag near the back. Never would have thought about lift the pot on hempy. At first I was perplexed they don’t tip over from top heavy but gravity won‘t be fooled huh. I’m gonna see what else I can dig up, less yakking - more reading.

Thanks for your guidance here!

pop in anytime. it's a rotating cast of characters.

they tip over all the time in flower ...
have to be careful when moving them for feedings etc. sometimes there is not a lot of bottom end to support the plant. and it weighs feathers when at the end of a dry cycle.

 

[013]

Your page moves fast! I read a bunch of this way back when but I’m enjoying pouring over this again. I figured as much on tipping over! Ok got a few points to quiz you on. I “think” I grasp the bulk of MC is learning to read the plant and either stay on the same dose, move down or move up. I noted you guys do a flush if suspected salt or fert buildup, pretty cool.

I know you are a busy man so don’t feel you need to type a book, meanwhile I’m going to soak up all the hempy & Dutch bucket stuff I can muster.

How often to feed at seedling stage?

How often do you plug the hole and float or do the flood & drain thing?

Ever used a biological like Green Safe? I’m thinking that adding small doses might alleviate future pest problems, this stuff looks pretty amazing.

Do you add an enzyme like Hydroguard? How often?

Do I need cal-mag added along with MC?

Should I use silica (stout MSA) along with MC or no need?

Will my well water be ok as long as I mix my soup then adjust ph to 5.8 right before I fertigate?

I have 3% hydrogen peroxide, what ratio to mix on a gallon. I take it this is an emergency measure for weird stuff like rancid water, nute bloom, bacteria, pests, root rot etc. I dont plan on using it without guidance but wanted to know in case of emergency.

I’ve ordered the MC but Bezos & the ‘Zon sez it won’t arrive until 24th to 30th. So that means I will need to limp along with either the Aqua Flakes A&B or liquid kelp or hopefully something here will suffice. I was hoping to stay in rapid rooters until the MC arrived but probably need to transfer to hempy style solo cups before hand since the ship date was later than anticipated. Today 3 out of 5 beans have popped and are now standing up, so that’s finally some encouraging news.

Last, the Aqua Flakes says 2 to 15 mil per gallon or 0.5 to 4 mil per liter.... any guess as to where I need to start for new seedlings?

Thanks a metric ton Bluter!

 

[West Hippie]

sorry for the crappy pics .. but we opened up this lovely behemoth ..

it's a massive puppy. just the way i like them. nextlight mega..

and i'll tag them in here cause i'm real impressed with the light and build.. but i probably voided the warranty already so don't hate me @NextLight ... pls

i need to reach out re : dimming. i'd like to run a dimmer on it, though i don't run them deep on the flower rig.

we measured it out to make sure it would fit in the jungle room and the dimensions are a go. but the nextlight mega held a few surprises for me...

first was build architecture

the rig looks like a strip build but it isn't really.

it's a board style build that has been vented for added cooling efficiency. i am geeking on the ingenuity. i really like the mix of diodes too. they cover a much broader k range than the cobs i run, and all are in the technically white light emitter.

diodes themselves look to be standard 3030s much like an lm. a flat guess would be osram, but i'm crap at identifying them, and i haven't seen enough of the newer chips to be certain anymore. there's a pile of them, and if they perform like ozzies i'll be more than happy. might get a closer look with better pics later. do not hold breath ...

oddly they housed the drivers in the doghouse on the top of the rig. the doghouse is vented, but the drivers are a main source of heat. i'm not much concerned, as a lot of consumer rigs need to be built this way for other reasons. it makes me wonder if there will be a remote driver option at some point.

we popped the inspection plates and located everything, then pulled the cover

there are two moons' drivers on the rig both running a 320w max output making the rig a 640w max rig. they could also be pulled back a bit internally as output is settable. maybe a 600 - 620w rig which is a good spot. 640 could be a bit hot for me.


okay so the drivers aren't mean well.

moons' is shanghai based and build more technical stuff other than just drivers. they do have a wide range of drivers and look well built. i like a driver that has the info these ones have included on the body. they aren't hiding.

i like the specs and they have dimmable output capability. just not in use
i was hoping for dimming and it's looks available two ways on a quick peak at the drivers. i didn't dig in to it but the blanked leads look to be sitting there at the bottom of the pic under the driver. probably run one dimmer per driver same as the current rig.


the rig is built as a flat out from the outside though. with just the hanging hooks and height for adjustment. i'm gonna reach out to @NextLight and see what i can do.

i'm gonna get anchor points to hang the mega sorted for the jungle room in the next couple wks. then i'm running it out til the end of flower no matter what. the plants will be at a similar intensity watt wise by the time i swap.

from this build they look to have real good gear. super excited.

edit : oh yeah i'll bug @Mr. Sauga again cause i think he had experience talking to nexlight about dimming ..
sorry buddy ..

I put a dual pot on the NextLight mega but didn’t use it except in veg . I think the best adjustment was the lux meter ! I had one plant under it that was 9 grams short of a pound and she was a hand full !

 

[bluter]

I put a dual pot on the NextLight mega but didn’t use it except in veg . I think the best adjustment was the lux meter ! I had one plant under it that was 9 grams short of a pound and she was a hand full !

what ohm did you run on the light @West Hippie ?

the drivers look like they wire in a pot dimmer the same as my mean wells.

 

[bluter]

How often to feed at seedling stage?

you can put hempy on a schedule. feed every 3 days in seedling to early veg, then every 2 days from mid veg to early flower, then daily in flower to harvest. it is dependent on bucket size and individual plant. wait til they are getting a dry cycle when moving the feed schedule up.

How often do you plug the hole and float or do the flood & drain thing?

that is the same thing lol.

i plug the hole every time i feed. it is not crucial though.
i let them stand for a few minutes before draining. i have easy gear to do it that way.

Ever used a biological like Green Safe? I’m thinking that adding small doses might alleviate future pest problems, this stuff looks pretty amazing.

hempy is a neutral media. biologicals are mostly money out the drain hole. bio works best in soil medias.

Do you add an enzyme like Hydroguard? How often?

see above re: biologicals

if you do hempy right you will flush the res through so often an enzyme like hydroguard won't really have any effect.

Do I need cal-mag added along with MC?

not really. most of my grows on MC i have gone without.
it's good to have in the toolbox. i will run it with bitchy plants.. i got some pure sativas that seem to want it this run.

Should I use silica (stout MSA) along with MC or no need?

never needed it.
some people do. requires some other amendments to keep stuff in balance if you do.

Will my well water be ok as long as I mix my soup then adjust ph to 5.8 right before I fertigate?

dunno. find out whats in the well.

hempy is a neutral hydro approach. the more neutral you are the more you can control the variables and avoid issues. you'll need to know the ppm of the water, and what makes up that ppm.

i run RO.

I have 3% hydrogen peroxide, what ratio to mix on a gallon.

that's pharmacy strength lol. i haven't used that strength since the 80's
pretty sure we just dumped the whole bottle in to 4L or a gallon.

i use different strengths of h202 for different things, ie : flushing as opposed to pest control.

Last, the Aqua Flakes says 2 to 15 mil per gallon or 0.5 to 4 mil per liter.... any guess as to where I need to start for new seedlings?

i have no idea on those nutes.
you can use any hydro nute in hempy, and change nutes any time you like.

you can try mixing those nutes at seedling strength or a little under and start there. hempy needs fed from real early as there is nothing in the media to support the plant.


the most important thing in hempy is not to over think it and have a good time.

 

[013]

Boom drops the knowledge... I can run with this!!! I will get a ppm meter and get answers

 

[bluter]

Boom drops the knowledge... I can run with this!!! I will get a ppm meter and get answers

have you ever had the well water analyzed ?

if you are gonna go with MC the only time you'd need an ec meter is just to test the source water. it would barely be worth the expense for just the couple times you'd use it. the analysis tells you what mineral content is in the background, which is really what you wanna know.

none of that matters if you get an RO filter.

i ran other media and have a pile of gear, the ec meters and RO filter i use were for other set ups.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Great info Bluter. Almost makes me wanna try a hempy grow now that I have the Z7.

if you do hempy right you will flush the res through so often an enzyme like hydroguard won't really have any effect.

When I tried hempy I got root rot and couldn’t save the plants by trying to sterilize things.

But I have a very fungi-rich sort of situation and run on rainwater out of cisterns, and am generally surrounded by slimes and moulds. If I did hempy again I absolutely would (have to) use something like Hydroguard or Z7 but I guess just add it to a larger barrel.
But most people are not so dirty.

 

[bluter]

Great info Bluter. Almost makes me wanna try a hempy grow now that I have the Z7.





When I tried hempy I got root rot and couldn’t save the plants by trying to sterilize things.

But I have a very fungi-rich sort of situation and run on rainwater out of cisterns, and am generally surrounded by slimes and moulds. If I did hempy again I absolutely would (have to) use something like Hydroguard or Z7 but I guess just add it to a larger barrel.
But most people are not so dirty.

lol..

it's slammed out pretty hard style here. there's always stuff under the fingernails.

i pretty much get stained roots and even rot every grow. by the time it shows i'm running end game anyway and it doesn't really matter.

dunno if you followed any of this journal.. most of my plants are in 2L buckets which is central to hempy. it's really a micro plant grow, with larger plants lol.


edit: @Weaselcracker - with your conditions , you'll do great in hempy if you incorporate an h202 flush on a regular schedule. it should do better than the enzyme approach. you ramp the percentage with plant stage the same as nute levels.

i try to flip a bit earlier, you wanna flip when you still have a little room for the roots. roots in a hempy bucket will fill the whole thing by end. you should be able to lock up 100% of the media.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Thanks dude. I have been peeking in now and then since the mega crop thread started but maybe haven’t posted here before I’m not sure. I have been subbed for quite a while.

Admittedly I’m pretty skeptical some of your post. I’m basically taking a slimy rain barrel and then putting that water in a hempy reservoir with a bunch of nutrients and light shining on it -so the chances of it growing slime seem extremely good, and all my hempy plants all croaked for that reason. Not to mention a billion clone cuttings. And nothing I did with peroxide or bleach seemed to help. And the idea of constantly bleaching my rain barrels does not appeal to me, even if it did work, which it didn’t. LOL.

It was not until I got the Z7, a.k.a. Z9, that I finally got my cloning operation consistently working and never had any more real issues with slime. Before that I struggled with it for years and years. I tried absolutely everything. Now I do not struggle with it anymore. It solved the problem.

But I am taking all your ideas into consideration here because I know you know your shit.


Also when I did it I was reasonably confused about my feeding and watering schedule.
I was mostly following Tead, who was pretty vague on with how often to water and feed and figured you could just treat it however you wanted to as long as it didn’t dry out.

Maybe that’s true or maybe I would have been better off watering every day just to get more flushing action going.

I’ve been having so much trouble with the peat lately that a grow in a neutral medium like perlite might be refreshing.

 

[bluter]

holy cow give me a bit to unpack this ..

Admittedly I’m pretty skeptical some of your post. I’m basically taking a slimy rain barrel and then putting that water in a hempy reservoir with a bunch of nutrients and light shining on it -so the chances of it growing slime seem extremely good

no worries neutralize or amend the water source and move forward.
also depends on definition of "slime" - hempy always gets a little algae on top.

and all my hempy plants all croaked for that reason

ok.

.Not to mention a billion clone cuttings. And nothing I did with peroxide or bleach seemed to help. And the idea of constantly bleaching my rain barrels does not appeal to me, even if it did work, which it didn’t. LOL.

would not recommend bleach anywhere.

the peroxide is in concert with a feed schedule that you control.
if you even need it and go that route.

It was not until I got the Z7, a.k.a. Z9, that I finally got my cloning operation consistently working and never had any more real issues with slime. Before that I struggled with it for years and years. I tried absolutely everything. Now I do not struggle with it anymore. It solved the problem.

there's a million ways to do clones. stick with what works for you.

i do hempy cups with the cutting stuck in it. i do them on a sched as well.

But I am taking all your ideas into consideration here because I know you know your shit.

meh.

Also when I did it I was reasonably confused about my feeding and watering schedule.

with your conditions would try something like an f/f/f/w sched, with h202 on the water side with cal mag.
in hempy feed 24hr after the water side and don't wait for the dry cycle. then resume regular feedings.

just do a standard plug hole and water. no pouring buckets through

I was mostly following Tead, who was pretty vague on with how often to water and feed and figured you could just treat it however you wanted to as long as it didn’t dry out.

for most folk i literally recommend a set schedule at first. it's one of the few media that allows it.
it's easy to learn as a result.

dry cycles are built in to the feed sched.

Maybe that’s true or maybe I would have been better off watering every day just to get more flushing action going.

I’ve been having so much trouble with the peat lately that a grow in a neutral medium like perlite might be refreshing.

there's not piles of differences. there's loads more ph and balance stuff going on in peat.

in both, the more neutral your water source the better you go.
it's hydro and it's the first thing you need to control.

 

[Weaselcracker]

The same nutrient routines that work in coco and perlite do not seem to work in peat necessarily. Besides the ph differences and issues, the lime used brings its own Ca and Mg to the mix, and not necessarily in a consistent way either.

My rainwater is fairly neutral in the sense that it is usually nearly 0 ppm, and its pH tends to always be about the same at around 5.6 or so.

I’m happy enough with my water. And I’ve been growing plants in peat mixes for a long time and they do work. I’m just not really feeling the love for it right at this particular moment I guess. Kind of weird to grow hydro in a medium that is sort of unknown and potentially changing. From unknown to unknowner?

““because, as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” -

Donald Rumsfeld- on the subject of growing dope in peat moss mixes- 2002.

 

[bluter]

The same nutrient routines that work in coco and perlite do not seem to work in peat necessarily. Besides the ph differences and issues, the lime used brings its own Ca and Mg to the mix, and not necessarily in a consistent way either.

My rainwater is fairly neutral in the sense that it is usually nearly 0 ppm, and its pH tends to always be about the same at around 5.6 or so.

I’m happy enough with my water. And I’ve been growing plants in peat mixes for a long time and they do work. I’m just not really feeling the love for it right at this particular moment I guess. Kind of weird to grow hydro in a medium that is sort of unknown and potentially changing. From unknown to unknowner?

““because, as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” -

Donald Rumsfeld- on the subject of growing dope in peat moss mixes- 2002.

so change for change sake ?

i'm a little turned around. i shoot for best media and feeding approach for the circumstances, and then work to simplify or reduce work load.

if you are having success now i'd find it hard to switch.

 

[Weaselcracker]

No I’m not having the greatest success. Some plants turn out perfectly over the years, but most of them have deficiencies. I no longer believe that peat mixes are an ideal choice for growing hydro style. Luck helps. But lab tests to see whats going in the medium are outside my budget.

 

[West Hippie]

what ohm did you run on the light @West Hippie ?

the drivers look like they wire in a pot dimmer the same as my mean wells.

10k ohm dual pot from Amazon about $12

 

[Reave]

Number of ohms is 100k divided by the number of drivers. Not 10k ohm 100k. Like I said before. If you have two drivers then 50k ohm.